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He was carried by a strong defence. He’s been a weak link the entire season. It was just covered up by those around him. And now he’s crumbling as the pressure is on. The benefit to Kenny coming in is not to take the pressure off Gilchrist it’s to stick him on the bench.
I’ll disagree there. But Kenny coming in is a positive for the strong squad we have
I was posting on here about my doubts on Gilchrist from the very start. For me there was a lot of fairly lazy thinking that because our defence was doing so well, some fairly basic defending from Gilchrist was so good. He was still not good on the ball. Still poor positionally. Still poor at blocking crosses. Still poor at over-lapping. I hope he comes good but the hill I will die on is that he’s not been particularly good all season and just got lucky the rest of the defence was so good.
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It’s a good point, apologies for appearing dismissive, we’ll probably get back to this when things have settled, but I’m 2 hours ahead of the uk and knackered as well as being fed up with some other characters on this forum today/ tonight… on top of the game.I was posting on here about my doubts on Gilchrist from the very start. For me there was a lot of fairly lazy thinking that because our defence was doing so well, some fairly basic defending from Gilchrist was so good. He was still not good on the ball. Still poor positionally. Still poor at blocking crosses. Still poor at over-lapping. I hope he comes good but the hill I will die on is that he’s not been particularly good all season and just got lucky the rest of the defence was so good.
I suppose an easier way of saying it is that I guess we’ll just agree to disagree
Nailed it on game 29. So glad I’ve still got him on ignore
I mean, that's a stretch no?
Don’t worry, I didn’t take it that way at all. I think I’d also posted at a point of heightened tension from me because I’d been watching at home on delay and couldn’t quite believe my eyes as to what happened tonight. And I’d just felt strongly on Gilchrist all year. Pick up again another time!It’s a good point, apologies for appearing dismissive, we’ll probably get back to this when things have settled, but I’m 2 hours ahead of the uk and knackered as well as being fed up with some other characters on this forum today/ tonight… on top of the game.
You’re a good poster normally so wasn’t intending to dismiss but actually wanted to reply and bookmark my reply for later this weekend
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yes noticed he wasnt training was wondering same seing as dunne can also play right back if gilchrist is going back to chelsea and were bringing both dunne and darling inPros and cons here. Obvious pro is it frees up a loan space if Wilder wants a loan centre half.
I think Gilchrist might be more of a back up in the second half of the season, it seemed odd he wasn't training this week on the video but I could be reading more into this. I suspect if he has gone back Wilder won't have said anything before Derby and maybe Darren is hinting that he has gone back etc.
On the other hand I could be reading more into it than there is
Deadbat isnt convinced by any utd player, it makes him relevant
Simply not true, Gilchrist has had a very good season for a young loanee finding his way. Have you not noticed where we are in the league or our defensive record up to Souttars injury ? Gilchrist was a huge part of that, lately he is running on fumes, mentally which is understandable as a young lad playing every game in the Championship.I was posting on here about my doubts on Gilchrist from the very start. For me there was a lot of fairly lazy thinking that because our defence was doing so well, some fairly basic defending from Gilchrist was so good. He was still not good on the ball. Still poor positionally. Still poor at blocking crosses. Still poor at over-lapping. I hope he comes good but the hill I will die on is that he’s not been particularly good all season and just got lucky the rest of the defence was so good.
I suppose an easier way of saying it is that I guess we’ll just agree to disagree
I strongly disagree. I’ll admit that I’m judging him based purely on his performances and not factoring in at all whether he’s young and/or learning his way, but I’m well aware of our positioning in the league and how we played with Souttar. My opinion is that far from being a “huge part of that” Gilchrist was a passenger being carried. I said from the start he looked poor. Everyone is welcome to their own opinion but I trust my eyes.
I agree with the sentiment. Just wanted to note 'senior' is doing some heavy lifting here though. I believe he's actually a couple of weeks younger than Baptist, so very much still learning his game and inconsistency comes with that.
I’ve said my bit on him so I’ll leave it after this but I’m judging him based purely on the performances I’d hope to get from a right back in the Championship. I’m comparing him to others I’ve seen at the level. I’m comparing him to George Baldock and Jayden Bogle. I’m comparing him to Seriki. I’m not judging him based on his age nor based on where he’s come from because neither matter when he’s playing 90 minutes week in, week out for us. Especially as a loanee for which any “development” we see will likely benefit another team. He’s obviously the best we’ve got but I just think he’s been poor throughout the season and people are only realising that now because he’s suddenly under more pressure and therefore crumbling a bit and playing even worse. Even when we were winning and keeping clean sheets he’s never looked comfortable in possession. Never been good back tracking. Never good stopping crosses going in. Never good over-lapping. Broken record over here i know but people can feel free to come to me with counter points of things he’s actually done well beyond “been a part of a strong defence” or “done OK for someone learning on the job”. Both of these may be true but neither are things he’s actually good at.
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