Ahhh so that’s how we’ll finally win a play off final

[ReeceofBDTBL]

It’ll be the one that half our fans don’t even want us to win.

Still don’t agree with fans not wanting us back in the top flight, we could have a completely new team by the start of august.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Absolutely I want to be back asap with a team that has at least a fighting chance. If Luton can do it ( albeit thanks to points deductions) then there's zero reason a club our size can't compete without being doomed from day one

 

[Houston_Blade]

We need to be back in the top flight every few seasons or we’ll be financially fucked. Hopefully next time we don’t play like a league 1 team for a whole season.

 

[SwissBlade]

It’ll be the one that half our fans don’t even want us to win.

Still don’t agree with fans not wanting us back in the top flight, we could have a completely new team by the start of august.

We won’t win a play off final. Think we’ll be a strong side next season, it’s still a big gap, but the concern is that we won’t get enough players in early enough to work with them and whether we have a first team only or a squad.

But if we recruit right, early enough with the same management team we will be in the top 6

I don’t want us in the premier league, but financially it is a must unless we can keep bringing academy players through for selling. Unlikely.

But I’ll just take most of the season off in the prem

 

[finlaytheblade]

We cannot accept just being a top six team in the championship.We will be in for free' s this window which means we can get the core in quite early. Our young players mixed with frees plus the ones we already have should make us competitive at the very least. Loans are usually after the seasons started so they would be the icing on the cake.
A busy summer hopefully a successful one.

 

[71Blade]

We need to be back in the top flight every few seasons or we’ll be financially fucked. Hopefully next time we don’t play like a league 1 team for a whole season.

Why will we most of the big earners will leave or should leave. Why go up again zero plan zero ambition. Our best players this season Arblaster aside are not ours. We are not a premier league club we know it the board know it. Steer clear for me i never want to see my team be the nations laughing stock. Yes my ambition matches the boards.

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

What worries me is the old Benjamin Bloom 'scoring system' of who's likely to get promoted where a settled team over 2 or 3 seasons has the best chance.
Chop us to bits in the summer, and unless we make some ridiculously good/fortuitous signings, we'll be at least 12 months before being serious auto contenders imo.

 

[Bladesman101]

Never thought I’d ever say this but I don’t want to go up, and if there’s a moment next season that promotion is confirmed, the narrative will be loud and clear: spend properly and get business done early or don’t expect us as fans to be excited. This season has been utterly shameful for our club and a lot of work has to go in to changing the perception from the outside.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Why will we most of the big earners will leave or should leave. Why go up again zero plan zero ambition. Our best players this season Arblaster aside are not ours. We are not a premier league club we know it the board know it. Steer clear for me i never want to see my team be the nations laughing stock. Yes my ambition matches the boards.

Even in the Championship we can’t afford to run after the parachute payments run out unless we get some serious investment through the door. The average loss for a Championship club according to the latest Deloitte report was £15m, that will be us after the payments stop.

I don’t want us to go up and be a laughing stock every week, but financially we need a year in the PL every 2 or 3 just to reset and to get the parachute payments for another couple of years.

 

[bladesmanluke]

I know it sounds like a radical idea, but of teams that get promoted it tends to be the ones that strengthen their squad rather than selling their best players that do well. If we can just get around this difficult to grasp concept we'll give ourselves a punchers chance next time.

 

[jt64]

Why will we most of the big earners will leave or should leave.

Not that we actually have any big earners by Premier League standards, but even the names you are likely thinking about go, we'd still have a fair few senior players who would be on decent wages for the Championship, with the possibility of bringing more in if we take a crazy punt on bringing in experienced upper-end Championship players with the intention of pushing to go straight back up. Every club in the Championship bleeds money, the division as a whole spends more just on wages than it gets in total revenue

 

[91stMinute]

We need to be back in the top flight every few seasons or we’ll be financially fucked. Hopefully next time we don’t play like a league 1 team for a whole season.

Using your theory can you explain how the majority of EFL clubs aren’t financially fucked when they’re not in the Premier League every few seasons?

 

[Houston_Blade]

Using your theory can you explain how the majority of EFL clubs aren’t financially fucked when they’re not in the Premier League every few seasons?

Most of them are living hand to mouth season after season, we’ll be the same. Last season we made a loss of £31m, this was with parachute payments. I don’t really see how you can refute that we’ll not be screwed without PL income.

We might lose some big earners, but we have to replace them with players. If they aren’t very good then we move down the league, if we move down the league our revenue drops. It’s a pretty simple concept.

Other examples:

https://theathletic.com/4457610/2023/04/28/championship-finances-broken/?source=user_shared_articleChampionship clubs’ finances are ‘broken’

Premier League leads European financial dominance but Championship clubs 'living beyond their means'

Deloitte's annual football finances review shows combined club revenue in England's top tier rose 12% to a record £5.5bn during the season before last.

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Deloitte's annual review into football finances reveals Championship clubs' wages exceeded their revenue for the fifth consecutive year

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[Boxer Blade]

To those who don't want promotion,why do you bother going to a game? I go hopefully to see a win.
I presume if we get to the play final and it's down to penalties you'd cheer it we missed our final kick and gives our opponents the win to send them up to the premier league saying fuckin ell that was close.

 

[SE1Blade]

What really helped us get promoted the last time was the good recruitment of experienced ‘bit part’ players who did a great job when called upon to get us over the line. Cranie, Stearman, Madine.

We’ll need some good solid signings like this, that the fans won’t necessarily approve of, but will do a job for us.

 

[stringjunior]

Even in the Championship we can’t afford to run after the parachute payments run out unless we get some serious investment through the door. The average loss for a Championship club according to the latest Deloitte report was £15m, that will be us after the payments stop.

I don’t want us to go up and be a laughing stock every week, but financially we need a year in the PL every 2 or 3 just to reset and to get the parachute payments for another couple of years.

I thought we'd borrowed against the parachute payments already

 

[Greystones Blade]

Even in the Championship we can’t afford to run after the parachute payments run out unless we get some serious investment through the door. The average loss for a Championship club according to the latest Deloitte report was £15m, that will be us after the payments stop.

I don’t want us to go up and be a laughing stock every week, but financially we need a year in the PL every 2 or 3 just to reset and to get the parachute payments for another couple of years.

Do you really think we’d have been the laughing stock if …. Lowe, RND, Egan, Basham and Baldock had been fit and available most weeks? I think the defence, with Robbo and Anel as well. Would have been a solid enough defence to be out of the bottom 3.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Do you really think we’d have been the laughing stock if …. Lowe, RND, Egan, Basham and Baldock had been fit and available most weeks? I think the defence, with Robbo and Anel as well. Would have been a solid enough defence to be out of the bottom 3.

They weren’t fit so it’s irrelevant, we’ve been a laughing stock and we can’t blame Covid this time.

 

[91stMinute]

Most of them are living hand to mouth season after season, we’ll be the same. Last season we made a loss of £31m, this was with parachute payments. I don’t really see how you can refute that we’ll not be screwed without PL income.

We might lose some big earners, but we have to replace them with players. If they aren’t very good then we move down the league, if we move down the league our revenue drops. It’s a pretty simple concept.

Other examples:

https://theathletic.com/4457610/2023/04/28/championship-finances-broken/?source=user_shared_articleChampionship clubs’ finances are ‘broken’

Premier League leads European financial dominance but Championship clubs 'living beyond their means'

Deloitte's annual football finances review shows combined club revenue in England's top tier rose 12% to a record £5.5bn during the season before last.

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Championship clubs spending 'unsustainably high' 108% of revenue on player wages

Deloitte's annual review into football finances reveals Championship clubs' wages exceeded their revenue for the fifth consecutive year

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All below the EPL might as well give up then. The FA and Premier League have created this. If it was as bad as you and these examples make out then loads of clubs would have gone by now.
Going back to wanting to be on the Premier League, do you really want to be associated with a group of clubs who don’t give a shit about the rest of the football pyramid. Can’t agree on a package of funding to the EFL despite the millions/billions of revenue and agree to take away a major revenue booster of scrapping FA Cup replays. These are to name but a few. I remember football before the Premier League, it wasn’t broken. The FA tried to fix something that wasn’t broken and have broken it big style. I would much prefer to see my team in the Championship regularly doing well, having cup runs etc than be associated with that league.

 

[JJBlade]

Even in the Championship we can’t afford to run after the parachute payments run out unless we get some serious investment through the door. The average loss for a Championship club according to the latest Deloitte report was £15m, that will be us after the payments stop.

I don’t want us to go up and be a laughing stock every week, but financially we need a year in the PL every 2 or 3 just to reset and to get the parachute payments for another couple of years.

Most clubs would think that way
We've seen it with Brighton, Bournemouth, Fulham, Leicester, Southampton.

Keep going back and having another go, and eventually the stays in the Prem will be longer.

One big difference though, those clubs know what a footballer is, they don't continue the narrative of buying hard working donkey shit to fit the retard clubs profile, but just paying more for it.

 

[Houston_Blade]

All below the EPL might as well give up then. The FA and Premier League have created this. If it was as bad as you and these examples make out then loads of clubs would have gone by now.
Going back to wanting to be on the Premier League, do you really want to be associated with a group of clubs who don’t give a shit about the rest of the football pyramid. Can’t agree on a package of funding to the EFL despite the millions/billions of revenue and agree to take away a major revenue booster of scrapping FA Cup replays. These are to name but a few. I remember football before the Premier League, it wasn’t broken. The FA tried to fix something that wasn’t broken and have broken it big style. I would much prefer to see my team in the Championship regularly doing well, having cup runs etc than be associated with that league.

Without the money from the PL we can’t do the last bit that you talk about because we’ll be skint and won’t be a decent Championship team.

I don’t agree with how the football pyramid is setup, but I understand that you either get with the programme or you flounder around from one financial disaster to another until you get lucky with someone willing to throw cash at the club.

It is as bad as the examples I’ve provided, I’m not making it up, the information exists. I don’t know how many clubs survive. Most of them must be indebted to owners, because in any other business they’d be long gone. Football is a basket case.

 

[ReeceofBDTBL]

Jokes aside we will never ever win a play off final or indeed any big match. If there’s one club who’s fans are destined to never get their day in the sun it’s us.

Even palace, who’ve never won a major trophy in their history, have managed to win 3 play off finals and a couple of cup semi finals in the last 40 years

 

[Gannon's perm]

Most clubs would think that way
We've seen it with Brighton, Bournemouth, Fulham, Leicester, Southampton.

Keep going back and having another go, and eventually the stays in the Prem will be longer.

One big difference though, those clubs know what a footballer is, they don't continue the narrative of buying hard working donkey shit to fit the retard clubs profile, but just paying more for it.

Those clubs you mentioned have done what they've done, because they have owners with very deep pockets. Leicester when they were relegated had the biggest wage bill outside the big 6. So it would appear that no, they don't know what a footballer is. Despite having the resources way beyond, even other Premier league clubs.

Also, no need to use the archaic and offensive word you've used there either. You know that though and it's exactly why you've done it. Buy hey ho, you seem quite content to dig your numerous holes, ever deeper whenever you post.

Crack on and keep digging

 

[JJBlade]

Those clubs you mentioned have done what they've done, because they have owners with very deep pockets. Leicester when they were relegated had the biggest wage bill outside the big 6. So it would appear that no, they don't know what a footballer is. Despite having the resources way beyond, even other Premier league clubs.

Also, no need to use the archaic and offensive word you've used there either. You know that though and it's exactly why you've done it. Buy hey ho, you seem quite content to dig your numerous holes, ever deeper whenever you post.

Crack on and keep digging

They also won a League Title, played Champions League football and won the FA Cup. They've also won two League Cups quite recently.
So yes they do know what they are doing when it comes to recognising a footballer, the fact that their best players get constantly poached by the big six also means that they can recognise a footballer. They have to constantly change their team because of this, and if they get it wrong in one season they can go down just like anybody else.

 

[Gannon's perm]

They have and the reason they did, was because of their expenditure. Granted to do what they did, they punched slightly higher than what was expected.

So when Leicester lose players it's because they are poached? Yet when other teams that you often mention sell players it's because of an entirely different reason. Apart from probably Man city currently, even the other teams in the big 6 get their players poached. When Real come calling and all that.

Big fish eat smaller fish. Apart from rare, occasional exceptions. The more money you have as a club, has a direct correlation with how well you do. It's not about recognising a footballer it's about how much you can pay for one. Leicester get their players poached and in turn poach players from less wealthy clubs.

When they won their trophies they did recognise what a footballer was. So by your own admission, when they got relegated they didn't. Change their team each season, but still have Jamie Vardy upfront since about nineteen eighty fucking four! Only a select few Premier League clubs can afford what he's currently on.

Everton spend far less and they don't get relegated. Can any team get relegated from the Premier League???? Of course they can, but will any of the big 6? Course they fucking won't!! Leicester when they got relegated, was as close as it's gonna get to any of those teams dropping. They didn't get it wrong, they failed fucking spectacularly on a level not seen before in recent times with their expenditure.

All those teams you mentioned have billionaire owners and consequently fish in bigger ponds, so catch bigger fish. Some teams are able to punch significantly higher for a period of time. Think for example Blackpool, Huddersfield, Barnsley, Wigan and Reading in the past and Luton currently. Recruitment staff and others get poached too, when they succeed. Only so many rabbits you get can get out of a hat as well.


Some clubs will exceed expectations of where they should be at different times. Likewise, other clubs will significantly underachieve for a period of time. Look at Sunderland, Derby, Bradford etc. Remember the world class players at Boro, Bolton and Portsmouth?? Even fucking Wednesday won a trophy, were finishing high in the league and playing in Europe. They haven't been in the Premier League this fucking century.

The more money you have the better footballers you get and the more successful the team is. Blackburn didn't win the title because they could recognise a footballer, they were able to buy the best players, because they had the most money. When that money was no longer available they dropped, the same as Wigan and Reading. Before Roman, Chelsea had absolutely appalling attendances and a million miles away from the traditional big 5. With more money than anyone else, they became for a period more successful than anyone else. However, currently they don't recognise a fucking footballer, have spent eye watering amounts and failed spectacularly.

The amount spent on wages, transfers and infrastructure, has a direct correlation on how well you do. Sometimes for a period clubs do better than they should and sometimes don't. Ultimately it's about how much money you have. Rotherham and Peterborough can't compete in the championship. Not because they can't recognise a footballer, but because they have no money and have the lowest wage bill in that league. The fact that both those clubs are able to get out of L1 on a regular basis, shows they can recognise a footballer. Both clubs don't have anywhere near the biggest resources in L1, but their resources are competitive and thus able to thrive and do well with, as you say, 'recognising a footballer'.

Do teams like Rotherham and Peterborough suddenly lose the ability once in the Championship to 'recognise a footballer?' They simply don't have the finances to compete. If any of the owners of Bournemouth, Brentford, Fulham and Brighton sold up and bought Rotherham. Then Rotherham would take their place as a permanent fixture in the Premier League.

Look at all those clubs you mention and their geographical location. Is that a coincidence? Of course it isn't, is it? The location consistently receives significantly more investment and is far wealthier. Which is why these clubs were able to attract billionaires. What about Newcastle and Man City you say ?? These are huge traditional clubs, with a little more investment can compete with and surpass the traditional big 5.

Those clubs you mention are on a totally different level. Why didn't those owners invest in similar size clubs in the north, such as, Rotherham, Huddersfield, Bradford, Hull, Carlisle???? Geographic location, investment and wealth. I'm sure York, has shops, restaurants and enough forward thinking people to be a palatable place for even for someone as discerning as yourself. However, as nice as York is,as a city, it isn't on the same playing field as the geographical location of all those clubs you mentioned. Neither does the football club have the stature of a Man City or Newcastle. So it is never going to have a billionaire owner take over.

Quite the fucking rant

I could have and should have just wrote, in the majority of cases and time wealth has a strong correlation with success. The wealthier an entity is, the more successful it will be.

Oh and btw, it didn't escape my attention that you failed to address your questionable use of vocabulary. By ignoring it completely, you've confirmed for me at least, that you knew exactly what you were doing when writing it.

Regarding your other post about Sheffield being pretty much a shit hole and having less forward thinking people than other areas. You claim that you weren't saying it has more problem sections of society, than other areas, just less forward thinking people. You come across as pretty binary, so who are these people that are neither problem sections of society or forward thinking people???

You appear to hate Sheffield with an absolute passion, to be honest it does worry me, what the root cause of this is. Like many places Sheffield has the good, the bad and the ugly. Lacks in some areas and over achieves in others. Sheffield University was voted the best University by students. So many students stay here after graduation, including international students.

I met, married and had children with my wife, living in China for many years. She fell in love with Sheffield and has lived here for 16 years now. Course she misses China and we go back regularly. She chose Sheffield over Beijing, Shanghai or any other places in China, because she loves the place. Many Chinese people do, because Sheffield has some great qualities as a City.

No I don't know any Chinese billionaires
I am actively looking though lol. And I do convert and spread the word of Sheffield United throughout the land. Plenty of Blades around