Adkins out

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"The manager has questioned the character of his under-achieving United players, labelling them the most frustrating team he has ever worked with."

Adkins? No. Steve McClaren. Another piss-poor manager out of his depth.

Adkins seems to have a knack of pissing players off. He seems like a shit or bust manager. We need someone to come in and slowly turn it round.

But Adkins has turned it round. He's turned us from promotion favourites to a national laughing stock.
 



life long home and away blade ,always try to see the positives , anybody that knows me will tell you I will always back the mighty blades and won't let anybody disrespect my club . But I'll tell you now we've been sold a pup by our pathetic board of directors ,if ever there was a rabbit caught in the headlights its Nigel Adkins and his two coaches . A swift cull is needed and Chris wilder needs to be brought in sharpish .with Deano his assistant . And a bloke in dooleys mould brought in at board level . Utb
We have to get the old blade spirit back or we are looking down the barrel of a gun


I have it on good authority that Wilder wouldn't touch this club with a 10 foot bargepole.

I thought he might've been tempted but the above came from someone who knows him. Sees it as a poisoned chalice apparently.
 
Everyone agrees it's even worse this season than it was last season. But that's no reason to sack the manager. Most managers need to be given time to achieve success, it doesn't come instantly.

If only we could sack the board and most of the playing squad today.
 
I have it on good authority that Wilder wouldn't touch this club with a 10 foot bargepole.

I thought he might've been tempted but the above came from someone who knows him. Sees it as a poisoned chalice apparently.
That may or maybe not true ,but £ signs talk ,Chris will be on 60 k max at Northampton and after having a decent bonus last year for keeping them up .and I'd say you can treble that at the lane ,plus work within a good budget ,a clean sweep of the squad ,fantastic training facilities ,and I think the lad would be tempted .could be wrong mind
 
Derry and Wilder have been given far more difficult jobs than the one handed to Adkins and they have done well ,look at Notts Co after Derry left ,he took them to where we are with far more limitations ,far more. Wilder has been successful in every job he has been given , again with very difficult jobs ,they are both young ,both know the division ,both have good contacts ,both would be hungry for success both play good football and with a DOF mentoring and bridging the gap to the board (doesn't have to be Warnock but he would be ideal) I think it would be fresh and successful. You have to remember where we are ,we are a middle 3rd division club and have been for a while ,look at the young hungry managers in the league who are doing well up at Barnsley and elsewhere. Last night showed me that Adkins has no idea how to pull us through ,I think this is the lowest point in the past 35 years and we are deteriorating badly.

Wilder was given a lot of time at both Halifax and Oxford (6 years in both cases) & was by no means an immediate success at either - he blew a very good position in his 2nd season at Oxford. So, you are suggesting that he be taken on & be given the time he would undoubtedly need? Sorry, don't see the sense in this.
 
Wilder was given a lot of time at both Halifax and Oxford (6 years in both cases) & was by no means an immediate success at either - he blew a very good position in his 2nd season at Oxford. So, you are suggesting that he be taken on & be given the time he would undoubtedly need? Sorry, don't see the sense in this.
That's unfair though ,did you see the situation he has taken all 3 clubs over in ? He has worked wonders at them.
 
That's unfair though ,did you see the situation he has taken all 3 clubs over in ? He has worked wonders at them.

I don't disagree he has done a good job, but needs a lot of time in which to do it based on his track record. Too similar to Adams, for me. I think he's a great manager for the level he is currently at but in all walks of life it is too easy to over promote a good worker beyond the level of their capabilities, not sure he would be the answer for us.
 
That's unfair though ,did you see the situation he has taken all 3 clubs over in ? He has worked wonders at them.

It's a different ball game managing us at this moment in time. Clough turned us round relatively speaking and then look what happened 12 months later. I'm not saying Wilder hasn't done well where he's been at times, nor that he would fail or have any less chance than Adkins but he hasn't had the pressure of managing the expectations he would have here and the likelihood of 12 - 18 months to succeed.

I seem to recall he was considered or at least mentioned by a Board member pre Adkins and the quotes coming out of the club were something along the lines of the fact he hadn't experienced this division, and getting out of it.
 
It's a different ball game managing us at this moment in time. Clough turned us round relatively speaking and then look what happened 12 months later. I'm not saying Wilder hasn't done well where he's been at times, nor that he would fail or have any less chance than Adkins but he hasn't had the pressure of managing the expectations he would have here and the likelihood of 12 - 18 months to succeed.

I seem to recall he was considered or at least mentioned by a Board member pre Adkins and the quotes coming out of the club were something along the lines of the fact he hadn't experienced this division, and getting out of it.

This is the point, he has had nearly 700 games as a manager, most of them non league & never above Div 2. There is nothing at all in his CV to suggest that he would be a success further up the ladder, but enough question marks against him to suggest that it would be a big gamble. Nothing against him at all, I like the guy, but not for us.
 
Look at MK Dons last season, Karl Robinson, no prior promotions. Mark Warburton with Brentford. I'm sure there's many many more examples of this being the case. Teams in this division require managers with the right personality, passion and the right abilities more than anything.
 
Look at MK Dons last season, Karl Robinson, no prior promotions. Mark Warburton with Brentford. I'm sure there's many many more examples of this being the case. Teams in this division require managers with the right personality, passion and the right abilities more than anything.

Robinson wouldn't have been given the 5 years it took him at MK Dons here.
 
Blades' fans deserve what they've ended up with (crap manager of a crap team).

To sack Clough was a stupid, hasty decision... he did very well in a short space of time. People running the club just as stupid as many fans.

Fickle supporters think they deserve success and fail to realise that only one club can finish top of the league (Burton - well done Cloughie).


I'll dignify you with a response as you're not a blade...

Clough was sacked by the directors at an end of season review, the fans never called for his head, or turned on him in the way they are doing now with Adkins...

So why do we deserve what we're getting, a final poll had 65% supporting him just after a playoff loss when passions were running high..

Enjoy your day in the sun, see you when you come back down, with our unambitious board we will still be here..
 
Robinson wouldn't have been given the 5 years it took him at MK Dons here.
The point is there's been many managers that have got promotion from this league having had no prior promotions from it before. The evidence is there in Adkins, somehow having a CV, managing like an absolute amateur.

His hands might have been tied to a certain extent and I want rid of McCabe as much as anyone, but the money he has/is paid/paying his signings to date, the fee for Sharp, the incredibly expensive wages for the others, the money was there to do something wise with, buy players in the positions we actually needed players in for starters and he's failed - miserably. You're placing way too much emphasis on what has gone before. I think we've all been guilty of it to some extent.
 
I have it on good authority that Wilder wouldn't touch this club with a 10 foot bargepole.

I thought he might've been tempted but the above came from someone who knows him. Sees it as a poisoned chalice apparently.

Wilder and Northampton were on FF last Saturday,and the pundits could not understand why no club higher up the league's had taken a chance on him.
 



I'll dignify you with a response as you're not a blade...

Clough was sacked by the directors at an end of season review, the fans never called for his head, or turned on him in the way they are doing now with Adkins...

So why do we deserve what we're getting, a final poll had 65% supporting him just after a playoff loss when passions were running high..

Enjoy your day in the sun, see you when you come back down, with our unambitious board we will still be here..
well am a blade, like it or not (since 76).

plenty on here (felt like the majority) wanted him gone and backed the sacking after.

35% of the fans fickle idiots then.
 
April 23rd, 1962 was my first match LSF and yes, I've seen some crap down the years. But as long as I live, I will never see dross like that served up last night.

In fact, it's difficult to put into words how bad we were/are. There are usually the odd bright sparks in any game. Not last night. When Sadkins did his 'deckchair re-arranging' by introducing D C-L, Whiteman and the lamentable Baptiste all hope was gone. I didn't see McCabe (that's him missing for the last 3 home games) and it shows that everybody has given up the ghost.

Football Heaven should be fun tonight...
I was April 1961 and yes it was as bad as you say. Quite why any manager would throw two young lambs into that slaughter of a performance is way beyond my level of understanding! Add to that offering up a bloke who's not played for a year after a catastrophic injury, leads me to believe that Adkins has morphed into Weir (Jasper Johns, and the woman beater).
My instincts say stick with him, my heart and head say .... Wibble...
 
I was April 1961 and yes it was as bad as you say. Quite why any manager would throw two young lambs into that slaughter of a performance is way beyond my level of understanding! Add to that offering up a bloke who's not played for a year after a catastrophic injury, leads me to believe that Adkins has morphed into Weir (Jasper Johns, and the woman beater).
My instincts say stick with him, my heart and head say .... Wibble...

I think he put them on in an effort to stop the booing at full time thinking we wouldnt want to boo some kids and a new loan player. My instincts say sack the useless fucker right now, if hes still here next season I wont be
 
Please stop passing off your own arm chair based opinion as 'facts' and 'truth'.

You've only just stopped saying the fans negativity is causing our malaise and that we would finish in the top 2.

I said fans negativity doesnt help , not that it was the cause

armchair opinions
this you live abroad you cant have an opinion stance you adopt is stupid
Ive seen us live 3 times and on tv around 20 via the web
and thats as good as someone who goes hurling abuse wearing blinkers and only seeingh what they want to see

are you inferring every exiled blades opinion is worthless
every person whose chosen a new life no longer cares

and you call me short sighted
 
I said fans negativity doesnt help , not that it was the cause

armchair opinions
this you live abroad you cant have an opinion stance you adopt is stupid
Ive seen us live 3 times and on tv around 20 via the web
and thats as good as someone who goes hurling abuse wearing blinkers and only seeingh what they want to see

are you inferring every exiled blades opinion is worthless
every person whose chosen a new life no longer cares

and you call me short sighted

I haven't said you can't have an opinion because you don't attend.

But come on, you've spent half the season slagging me off when I've said we were awful and wouldn't make the top 6 because the stats you saw on the BBC website said we had some shots on target and now overnight you've decided that Adkins definitely must go.

Whether you like it or not, people who have been attending games all season are going to have a much better insight on what's happening on the pitch than those who don't attend.

So when you've been telling me I'm wrong all season and now you've decided "it's the truth" and "fact" that Adkins MUST go, I will take that with a huge pinch of salt and believe what I've witnessed personally.

It's logic.
 
The point is there's been many managers that have got promotion from this league having had no prior promotions from it before. The evidence is there in Adkins, somehow having a CV, managing like an absolute amateur.

His hands might have been tied to a certain extent and I want rid of McCabe as much as anyone, but the money he has/is paid/paying his signings to date, the fee for Sharp, the incredibly expensive wages for the others, the money was there to do something wise with, buy players in the positions we actually needed players in for starters and he's failed - miserably. You're placing way too much emphasis on what has gone before. I think we've all been guilty of it to some extent.

The point is, presumably you were happy with Adkins when he joined us 7 months ago now you want him out. We get someone else, instant success doesn't happen, you moan, off we go again.

We may strike lucky eventually I guess.
 
Last summer, there was no call for a mass clear-out of players, we only really needed a couple of additions, cutting the numbers a bit would help, but there was nothing massively wrong with the squad. The players we did bring in failed to address the key weaknesses in defence and midfield, that's down to the manager.

Now, Adkins apologists blast this squad as all useless and happily write off this season as we were just waiting for a clear out in the summer and could never achieve anything with what we've got. Adkins himself claims that the players can't handle playing for this club in this division, except most of them have managed that just fine for the previous couple of years, the difference between the players last season and players this season is the man in charge of them.

How many times has Adkins picked the same 11 from game to game? Why do so many players come in for an odd game then vanish again?
Why not play a system that plays to the players' strengths?
Why rush Harris straight from injury to the starting line-up when K Wallace was doing just fine?
Has the previously effective Brayford/Flynn partnership down the right wing even been used? Has Flynn even played more than a couple of games in a row in the same position?
Why loan out an attacking left back, then immediately switch to a wing-back system that he was the best fit for?
If Sammon was a player he didn't even want, why use him so often?

There are too many mysteries of Adkins' own making for me to have any belief in his ability to change things around. The players he brought in will all be on decent wages, and even if every out of contract player leaves, that means a lot of new signings/signing on fees/agents fees even if all new recruits are brought in on the cheap. There isn't a single thing about Adkins' reign that suggests he should get more time, he doesn't have a clue what he's doing and can't get any kind of performance out of the players he's got.

All the reasons given for him to stay amount to
It's the players, it's not his squad
It's the board, lack of investment, assumptions about broken promises
You can't keep sacking managers, he needs more time, costs too much in compensation
He got 4 promotions before

Nobody ever uses anything from his time at the club as a reason for him to stay as he has accomplished absolutely nothing, and the more time he has, the worse the performances get. At least with David Weir you could instantly see what he was trying (and failing spectacularly) to achieve. After 9 months, I have no idea what Adkins is doing. I'm not sure he does either.

There simply isn't a single footballing reason why Nigel Adkins should be employed as the Sheffield United manager.

I agree with this, not one jot of improvement.

I'd also add that the few still defending Adkins quote his previous record as a reason to stick with him whilst slamming our players this season and ignoring their previous records. A case in point being Done who scored for fun last season but has been played all over this year and as such hasn't really settled. It seems those defending Adkins aren't being consistent in their arguments.
 
The point is, presumably you were happy with Adkins when he joined us 7 months ago now you want him out.
Yes, because of how he's acted and how he's managed to take a 5th placed squad, add some horrid signings and amateurish tactics and turned it into a 12th placed one. You must be pretty (in the kindest sense of the word) stupid if that's the man you want clearing out and rebuilding most of the squad in the summer.
 
ok lads, bristol city fan here rumour down here is steve cotterill has been contacted and is very interested, no idea if this is true but thought id share it with you, best of luck for the rest of the season.
 
Yes, because of how he's acted and how he's managed to take a 5th placed squad, add some horrid signings and amateurish tactics and turned it into a 12th placed one. You must be pretty (in the kindest sense of the word) stupid if that's the man you want clearing out and rebuilding most of the squad in the summer.

You've got a habit of calling people who disagree with you stupid, why do you do this?

I would hazard a guess that plenty of the people you call out this way are more intelligent than you are and than you give them credit for.
 
You've got a habit of calling people who disagree with you stupid, why do you do this?

I would hazard a guess that plenty of the people you call out this way are more intelligent than you are and than you give them credit for.
What like expressing what has now become a commonplace opinion months ago, you mean?
 
What like expressing what has now become a commonplace opinion months ago, you mean?

You think this is relevant to you thinking yourself more intelligent than those you encounter on here?

I've lost count of how many people you've called stupid.

It's a bit...stupid.
 
You think this is relevant to you thinking yourself more intelligent than those you encounter on here?

I've lost count of how many people you've called stupid.

It's a bit...stupid.
Of course it's relevant. Without wanting to blow my own trumpet (i'm just telling the truth, however it comes across) you'd have to have a degree of intelligence to express as I say, what has now become a commonplace opinion months ago.

Whether you like it or not, there's no getting away from it. I suspect you'd agree had you been in a similar scenario on any particular subject. Since you aren't, you won't, which isn't exactly unpredictable.
 



I haven't said you can't have an opinion because you don't attend.

But come on, you've spent half the season slagging me off when I've said we were awful and wouldn't make the top 6 because the stats you saw on the BBC website said we had some shots on target and now overnight you've decided that Adkins definitely must go.

Whether you like it or not, people who have been attending games all season are going to have a much better insight on what's happening on the pitch than those who don't attend.

So when you've been telling me I'm wrong all season and now you've decided "it's the truth" and "fact" that Adkins MUST go, I will take that with a huge pinch of salt and believe what I've witnessed personally.

It's logic.

well if its your logic its been shite all season every game , whats the logic in defending Adkins now

He is the man who selects the players employs the tactics decides the systems

I gave him the benifit early season as I said repeatedly he might have a plan once unfit players returned and the signings he could make
as he has failed miserably with noth of those too its time for him to go
 

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