A reminder to the board bashers

[blade too long]

It's not that we pulled in average joes as someone put it . All signings are punts they either work or they don't. Lee Evans has in the main worked .. Of the Jan recruitment think its fair to say Wilson as a loan was no Conor Coady success. Wilder has brought in some gems in the past be he too is finding it's harder to get real value for money at this level . There's 10 clubs at least that can out spend us simply as they have wealthier investors. There's no way for instance we can compete with West Brom saints and stoke when they come down . So we have to buy well but within our means. Thing is of the 10 that outspend us at least 7 of them wont go up as only 3 can so spending big money wont work in 70 per cent of those 10 So statistically just spending lots of money doesnt work when Brighton and Huddersfield went up neither were in the top 10 big spenders so big spending had a 90 per cent failure rate

 

[Sean Thornton]

Anyone could see the big decision thrown into focus the second that Coutts leg was broken.
And knowing the Blades decision-making for 50 years , right from the sale of Mick Jones & Alan Birchenall , I instantly got a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.
Because right there & then I knew our biggest chance in ages depended on replacing him whilst we were still top of the league (or as soon as the rules allowed).
And I knew they'd never speculate to accumulate , so we were doomed that very night.
And so in January we pulled in some average Joes , instead of the one of quality we needed.
And that sickening feeling has never shifted.
My clueless Club owners , why do I love your Club so ?
The hope kills me continuously , in a kind of lifelong death-throe.

It will be a miracle if Wilder stays , because if he feels anything like he sounds on the radio , he is quite possibly as sick of this Club's inertia as I am.
And he has to go and work for the clueless fuckers !

We don't have the money to replace Coutts but ignoring that for a moment who would you have brought in to replace him?

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Where could they raise the money from?

Rough trade. That would show their true commitment to the club.

 

[Liverpool blade]

I read an interesting article about wolves the other day concerning their financial backers and other associated people.
Wolves owners are Chinese and they bought in that Mendez who is a crooked agent I M O. He's managed to help them sign some top players. They're now promoted of course but still people are asking questions and will continue to do so?.
The point I'm trying to make is that I wouldn't want us to fall into that trap. Eventually I believe wolves will come unstuck and it will all collapse around them.
I just hope our boardroom situation gets sorted soon. UTB

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

We don't have the money to replace Coutts but ignoring that for a moment who would you have brought in to replace him?

Money no object? Reality suspended? Ryan Woods.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Money no object? Reality suspended? Ryan Woods.

It's a big ask on here but no, sensibly.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Rough trade. That would show their true commitment to the club.

Is that a subsidiary of RBS?

I'm intrigued that someone knows where finance can be raised but that the owners just didn't bother.

Presumably it has to be paid back though.

 

[Bladezz]

As has been proven this season, your quite clearly talking out of your arse. Examples?

Premier league......Burnley
Championship......Us, Millwall
League 1........Shrewsbury
League 2.......Accrington Stanley

Does spending more money give you a better chance? In all probability, Yes
Does it guarantee anything? Absolutely not.

Money spent wisely is better than no money spent.

Premiership - top 6 biggest 6 spenders
Championship - Wolves, Villa , Cardiff, Boro, Derby etc all spent more than us.
League 1. You use an example of a playoff team. I will choose the two biggest spenders in Blackburn and Wigan.
League 2 Accrington - unreal job!!! Luton biggest spenders.

So before you pull out 5 teams think before you post.

 

[The Crab]

So how come Bournemouth, Huddersfield and Brighton who are hardly what we’d class as ‘big’ clubs can get wealthy backers, but we can’t?

Is what we should be asking then.

Doesn't seem an unreasonable question.

 

[Davalon]

Money matters greatly in football.

Success on a comparative shoestring is the exception not the rule, and isn't sustainable.

Just because there are examples of teams blowing money without success, like ourselves under Robson, doesn't mean it's not important.

We haven't got it to spend, and rarely have by comparison, but as frustrating as it is watching smaller clubs outspend us year after year for whatever reason, shouting to spend what isn't there is pointless.

Personally I'm more concerned that the ownership situation is sorted to some degree to allow Wilder to at least have a fighting chance to prepare properly for next season.

It would be very Sheffield United to fuck it up over boardroom issues.

 

[snootyfenooty]

Anyone could see the big decision thrown into focus the second that Coutts leg was broken.
And knowing the Blades decision-making for 50 years , right from the sale of Mick Jones & Alan Birchenall , I instantly got a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.
Because right there & then I knew our biggest chance in ages depended on replacing him whilst we were still top of the league (or as soon as the rules allowed).
And I knew they'd never speculate to accumulate , so we were doomed that very night.
And so in January we pulled in some average Joes , instead of the one of quality we needed.
And that sickening feeling has never shifted.
My clueless Club owners , why do I love your Club so ?
The hope kills me continuously , in a kind of lifelong death-throe.

It will be a miracle if Wilder stays , because if he feels anything like he sounds on the radio , he is quite possibly as sick of this Club's inertia as I am.
And he has to go and work for the clueless fuckers !

Agree with the sinking feeling when Coutts got injured. My exact sentiments. The only thing I question is your comment on Wilder. He's a Blade, he knows the club inside out so he must have known what he was letting himself in for when he took over. For this reason I think he'll stick it out.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Although I enjoy sticking the boot into KM as much as the next man, I have to admit that he/we have done all the sensible things to move the club forward, it's just a heady mixture of bad luck, gnat's cock out timing and loss of belief that's done us. We tried to increase & vary off field income streams, we've invested in an academy, we've sold on our youth at profit, we've modernised the ground, we've bought feeder clubs, employed established managers, etc.

People say that if freddie mercury had managed live 12 months longer he'd be alive today due to advancements in drugs, and that's very similar to the blades. I'm not suggesting for one minute that the availability of Raltegravir on the NHS has hampered our progress as a club, but if we'd managed to remain in the premier league for 12 months longer in 2007, due to the increase in £'s we'd still be there. And we'd be there with a back four of naughton, maguire, jags & walker.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Although I enjoy sticking the boot into KM as much as the next man, I have to admit that he/we have done all the sensible things to move the club forward, it's just a heady mixture of bad luck, gnat's cock out timing and loss of belief that's done us. We tried to increase & vary off field income streams, we've invested in an academy, we've sold on our youth at profit, we've modernised the ground, we've bought feeder clubs, employed established managers, etc.

People say that if freddie mercury had managed live 12 months longer he'd be alive today due to advancements in drugs, and that's very similar to the blades. I'm not suggesting for one minute that the availability of Raltegravir on the NHS has hampered our progress as a club, but if we'd managed to remain in the premier league for 12 months longer in 2007, due to the increase in £'s we'd still be there. And we'd be there with a back four of naughton, maguire, jags & walker.

Wow. Just Hitler, horse porn, Charlie Webster and real ale to go and the threads complete

 

[Pierre's PC]

horse porn

Would tentacle suffice?

 

[Worksop II]

Although I enjoy sticking the boot into KM as much as the next man

get in there

it's just a heady mixture of bad luck

pffft, you were doing so well an all

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

get in there

pffft, you were doing so well an all

I'm deliberately trying to appeal to all factions of our support, a little something for everyone. 'Likes' don't grow on trees, tha knows!

 

[Sean Thornton]

I'm deliberately trying to appeal to all factions of our support, a little something for everyone. 'Likes' don't grow on trees, tha knows!

Car park licking slasher.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Car park licking slasher.

 

[Chali 2na]

Alternatively spending nothing will guarantee stagnation or decline.

We haven't spent 'nothing'

Plus the money for Jug ears and DCL before a ball was kicked

That was last season...

please just fuck off because my hopes and dreams are disappearing like your ambition.

So you've got replacement owners lined up?

So how come Bournemouth, Huddersfield and Brighton who are hardly what we’d class as ‘big’ clubs can get wealthy backers, but we can’t?

I would imagine Brighton and Bournemouth would attract attention based on their location.

I'm not sure how wealthy Huddersfield's owner is, but he's a local man and Huddersfield supporter, so I doubt he was ever going invest anywhere but Huddersfield.

I’m afraid that you and seemingly many other Blades, and our Board, are not ambitious enough.

Ambitous enough or wealthy enough?

Imagine if the Board had sanctioned a move like the loan of Mitrovic from Newcastle on loan. We’d be top 2 now.


That’s what we are talking about. Not stupid signings like £15 m on one player, but backing sound signings like the Mitrovic one to get us over the line.

So you think Mitrovic was a realistic signing?

 

[Sean Thornton]

So you think Mitrovic was a realistic signing?

You've got to have AMBISHUN like the proper Blades. The money's out there.......

 

[blade too long]

You raise an interesting point there about Wilders willingness to move for such players.

The most disturbing words I heard from Wilder were when he first was appointed and announced that there would be no more big spending on players! I wondered which club he was referring to as I’d not noticed us spending big money on players? Not since the purchase of Beattie at least. And we all know how that ended.

I’ve also heard him since saying he’ll work with what he’s given. But he’s also said he’d love the opportunity to be able to spend the kind of money some other clubs have at their disposal.

So, is he “content” then to not spend on the type of players, like a Mitrovic, or a Cairney? Or would he really love to go for such players but is not allowed to?

The signings he made in Jan haven’t worked out very well imo.

Money matters greatly in football.

Success on a comparative shoestring is the exception not the rule, and isn't sustainable.

Just because there are examples of teams blowing money without success, like ourselves under Robson, doesn't mean it's not important.

We haven't got it to spend, and rarely have by comparison, but as frustrating as it is watching smaller clubs outspend us year after year for whatever reason, shouting to spend what isn't there is pointless.

Personally I'm more concerned that the ownership situation is sorted to some degree to allow Wilder to at least have a fighting chance to prepare properly for next season.

It would be very Sheffield United to fuck it up over boardroom issues.

As I've already said every season in the championship half the teams fork out 20 million plus but only 3 can succeed in going up so to say it's only United failing is way off the mark . IF Fulham fail to win the play offs they will have blown 120 m in each of the past 2 seasons. Which will be over 200m more than we can if Boro fail 150 m goes up the spout and villa 140m and only 1 of those 3 might go up

 

[Davalon]

As I've already said every season in the championship half the teams fork out 20 million plus but only 3 can succeed in going up so to say it's only United failing is way off the mark . IF Fulham fail to win the play offs they will have blown 120 m in each of the past 2 seasons. Which will be over 200m more than we can if Boro fail 150 m goes up the spout and villa 140m and only 1 of those 3 might go up

But there's no relevance to your point.

We know there's only a few promotion places but the suggestion that you don't need to spend to be successful is flawed in that few achieve it today, especially the higher you go.

We haven't got it to spend so it doesn't affect us at present.

 

[NuddysGloves]

Where could they raise the money from?

Don't hold me to this because I have to be honest, I've not actually seen it with my own eyes.....but I have heard some subtle whispers on this forum that there is a secret money tree and Kevin knows its location........

 

[LJBlade]

You've got to have AMBISHUN like the proper Blades. The money's out there.......

It always makes me smile when I see someone accusing others of lacking ambition whilst demanding that they throw their own money into it

 

[Maidenhead]

Huddersfield

Yeah but you have to right back in history for a whole season to dig that one up.

 

[blade too long]

But there's no relevance to your point.

We know there's only a few promotion places but the suggestion that you don't need to spend to be successful is flawed in that few achieve it today, especially the higher you go.

We haven't got it to spend so it doesn't affect us at present.

it helps spending but isnt a cure all panacea

every season theres someone goes up who hasnt chucked millions at it
IF Millwall make it , it makes a mockery of your point

plus if we get big investment and we throw 100m at it and still dont go up,,, what then
as villa boro or fulham will

 

[Maidenhead]

I like Joe’s posts usually and he seems like a sensible and decent chap. But he’s really showing a disturbing level of naivety with this one.

No one is saying we should be spending daft money, but to try and justify the Board’s under investment in this club, this season, when we have had the best chance for a decade to get back to the top flight, is ridiculous. And to draw comparisons with the 1950’s and Sunderland (nicknamed “The Bank of England” during that period because of their reckless spending) is plain daft.

The world has moved on Joe. The gap has never been wider between the haves and have nots in this game. This season was a chance to join the haves again. And the Board, like you, have failed to see that opportunity.

I’m afraid that you and seemingly many other Blades, and our Board, are not ambitious enough.

It’s about timing. When the cards are falling your way, as they have done this season, you need to speculate a little bit more and push on to give yourself the best chance of success.

We haven’t done that.

Imagine if the Board had sanctioned a move like the loan of Mitrovic from Newcastle on loan. We’d be top 2 now.

That’s what we are talking about. Not stupid signings like £15 m on one player, but backing sound signings like the Mitrovic one to get us over the line.

The Board have sold Wilder short at the time of our best opportunity in years.

I saw a fabulous new Ferrari at a local garage the other day but despite all my ambition to buy it, and I really really wanted to, I just didn't have enough money

If only my pension funds hadn't sold me so short.

 

[Maidenhead]

Money spent wisely is better than no money spent.

Premiership - top 6 biggest 6 spenders
Championship - Wolves, Villa , Cardiff, Boro, Derby etc all spent more than us.
League 1. You use an example of a playoff team. I will choose the two biggest spenders in Blackburn and Wigan.
League 2 Accrington - unreal job!!! Luton biggest spenders.

So before you pull out 5 teams think before you post.

You've just named 5 Championship teams that have spent more than us but at least 2 of them won't get promoted.

What is it that you're trying to illustrate again?

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

Don't hold me to this because I have to be honest, I've not actually seen it with my own eyes.....but I have heard some subtle whispers on this forum that there is a secret money tree and Kevin knows its location........

Snooty reckons it's in Peak Forest but I know for a fact it was on Rustlings Road and Amey cut it down.

Twats, the lot of them ( oops, wrong thread )

 

[Revolution]

You've just named 5 Championship teams that have spent more than us but at least 2 of them won't get promoted.

What is it that you're trying to illustrate again?

Is it your position that if we can't guarantee promotion by increasing our budget we shouldn't bother?