A Question of Tactics?

[Rollerball]

I'm asking anyone with more experience of tactics, specifically defending corners.
Now it's my understanding when defending corners the defensive team usually has at least a 2 man numerical advantage ie keeper and corner taker, and the norm is to send one attacking player forward and the attacking team taking the corner normally sends 2 back giving the defending team an extra 1 advantage, ie 7 attacking 10 defending, now my question is instead of sending just one up when defending a corner, if we sent say for example we sent mcnulty, scougs, murphy and JCR around halfway line,then the attacking team would have to send at least 2-3 more players back leaving only 4-5 attacking the corners against still 7 and still having a 2 man advantage plus a probable little more room for Howard to see and claim the ball thus with 4 already in attacking positions allowing Howard to, if he claims well to release the ball up field quickly.
Would this be a viable tactic, if not why not?

 

[wizadry]

I'm asking anyone with more experience of tactics, specifically defending corners.
Now it's my understanding when defending corners the defensive team usually has at least a 2 man numerical advantage ie keeper and corner taker, and the norm is to send one attacking player forward and the attacking team taking the corner normally sends 2 back giving the defending team an extra 1 advantage, ie 7 attacking 10 defending, now my question is instead of sending just one up when defending a corner, if we sent say for example we sent mcnulty, scougs, murphy and JCR around halfway line,then the attacking team would have to send at least 2-3 more players back leaving only 4-5 attacking the corners against still 7 and still having a 2 man advantage plus a probable little more room for Howard to see and claim the ball thus with 4 already in attacking positions allowing Howard to, if he claims well to release the ball up field quickly.
Would this be a viable tactic, if not why not?

It's a great tactic and very effective when played with quick players.What i would say though is there's a downside if the team you play have a lot of tall players,they have more room to manoeuvre in the box making it easier to get a clean head to the ball.

 

[him behind you]

I've often thought much the same but decided It could become a bit of a game of chicken. We might push all those men up front but what if the attacking team don't drop anyone back? Would we then bottle it and send them back? It's a case of which manager is the bravest.

 

[Revolution]

This might work, but I suspect the reason people don't do it is because there's too much risk. Less people in the box= more space to score.

Plus it goes against conventional wisdom, which is always a barrier to innovation.

 

[Liaminho9]

Colchester did is to us last season, left 3 up about 10 minutes into a game and it confused the hell out of us... I remember Doyle standing on the edge of the box shouting at people to get back but it was too late because whoever took the corner crossed it in quickly, they cleared it, and left us 3v2 at the back, and I'm pretty sure they scored from it.

 

[Paulus]

As we are a small team it might help to even things up a bit. If we sent Scooogs and JCR up, neither of whom are ever going to win a header the opposition would be under pressure to keep 3 back to mark them.

 

[Brisca Blade]

Colchester did is to us last season, left 3 up about 10 minutes into a game and it confused the hell out of us... I remember Doyle standing on the edge of the box shouting at people to get back but it was too late because whoever took the corner crossed it in quickly, they cleared it, and left us 3v2 at the back, and I'm pretty sure they scored from it.

Was that the game McMahon left his man to receive the short corner leaving us 2 against 3

 

[Sharrowblade]

Never mind corners. I'd like to know why when we get a free kick in the oppositions half, we don't ask anything of the opposition's defence.

We just pass it five yards sideways or backwards before ultimately losing it, ..

 

[Punk Blade]

Surely it can't be too difficult to take a few corners 7 v 5 in the box and see what difference it makes to attacking/defending.

I'd take a look at the % of corners converted to goals vs. the % of clear breakaways from corners that result in goals, and put my players where we are more likely to gain an advantage (prevent a goal or score one).

The other thing is part of the benefit of counter-attacking with two or three men is they have a lot of space in between the two boxes to stretch the opposition defenders and make something happen. If it eventually swings the other way (let's leave 8 men up and play 3 v 1 in the box) then when you turn over possession from the corner there is no counter-attacking option - it's just like your goalie having the ball in open play.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

I'm asking anyone with more experience of tactics, specifically defending corners.
Now it's my understanding when defending corners the defensive team usually has at least a 2 man numerical advantage ie keeper and corner taker, and the norm is to send one attacking player forward and the attacking team taking the corner normally sends 2 back giving the defending team an extra 1 advantage, ie 7 attacking 10 defending, now my question is instead of sending just one up when defending a corner, if we sent say for example we sent mcnulty, scougs, murphy and JCR around halfway line,then the attacking team would have to send at least 2-3 more players back leaving only 4-5 attacking the corners against still 7 and still having a 2 man advantage plus a probable little more room for Howard to see and claim the ball thus with 4 already in attacking positions allowing Howard to, if he claims well to release the ball up field quickly.
Would this be a viable tactic, if not why not?

If I was the opposing manager, I would pull 4 short/quick blokes back to mark your 4 short/quick blokes.
Then I would get someone to go for the short corner, which pulls two more of your men out of the box to mark them.
That would leave 4 v 4 to compete for an header in the box + your goalie.
Therefore, you've sacrificed your numerical advantage and have no men on the posts to make a clearance.

If your players didn't respond quickly enough to my threat of a short corner, I would have the option of taking it short and working the ball into a better position for a shot/cross.

 

[grafikhaus]

As we are a small team it might help to even things up a bit. If we sent Scooogs and JCR up, neither of whom are ever going to win a header the opposition would be under pressure to keep 3 back to mark them.

Exactly my thoughts. Hanging on against Orient, J C-R was wandering towards the halfway line as Orient prepared to take a corner. NC screamed at him to get back to our area. Result? All eleven of ours in the box and absolutely no outlet if we won the ball. I think we all know what happened next...