24k

[blade too long]

Which law would that be?

Her Majesty's really really bad thing to tell fibs about footy attendance act, 1967?

fraud

Police will need to know the attendance figures, in a bid to help maintain safety when the final whistle goes, while the home and away sides will want to keep track of finances and make sure their share of gate receipts tallies up.

Football clubs say the announced attendance given on a match day to supporters and the media alike takes into account all tickets sold including home and away tickets, Season Memberships and complimentary tickets.

These can include everything from media passes and passes to the executive suites and corporate hospitality.
But the figure announced by clubs is vastly different to the actual attendance – and this is because the exact number of people who come to the game and fill the seats is calculated after the match, often the next day.

The actual attendance is the number of people in the stadium taking into account people that bought a ticket or have a season membership who didn't turn up.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Anybody who was in the ground on Friday night knows there were nowhere near 24k there. That was the emptiest the South stand has been for a league game in years and they brought about 500, possibly 600 at the most.

In the grand scheme of things it doesn’t really matter.

I was in the ground on Friday night and just before kick off I looked around and said I reckon there's about 24,000 in here. I was wrong obviously, by about 400. But it looked like about 24,000 to me.

Why do folks want to debate this? What's all this about the club fiddling the numbers or whatever? It just doesn't make any sense why the club would want to do that. I can only assume some fans think they have tremendous powers of foresight that they can look around a ground and be more accurate in their prediction of the numbers than the official attendance report. These same folk should go down the sweet shop and try and guess how many sweeties are in the jars. They could make a fortune from that.

 

[blade too long]

and numbers dont add up
if a season ticket holder doesnt go as far as Im aware its usually passed to someone else to use

if its as some say 3000 dont turn up out of our 18000 ST holders , that equates to 1 in 6 missing and some season ticket holders missing 4 to 5 games a season to reach that level of counting Ticket holders missing

no point in buying a season ticket if your ging to miss one in 4 home games

 

[wizadry]

I was in the ground on Friday night and just before kick off I looked around and said I reckon there's about 24,000 in here. I was wrong obviously, by about 400. But it looked like about 24,000 to me.

Why do folks want to debate this? What's all this about the club fiddling the numbers or whatever? It just doesn't make any sense why the club would want to do that. I can only assume some fans think they have tremendous powers of foresight that they can look around a ground and be more accurate in their prediction of the numbers than the official attendance report. These same folk should go down the sweet shop and try and guess how many sweeties are in the jars. They could make a fortune from that.

Do me a favour please CB and read my last sentence in the post.

 

[I should coco]

fraud

Don't be so harsh on yourself.

Police will need to know the attendance figures, in a bid to help maintain safety when the final whistle goes, while the home and away sides will want to keep track of finances and make sure their share of gate receipts tallies up.

What about kitchen sink makers? I'm sure they need to know.

It may surprise you to learn that the FAC apart, home clubs have kept gate receipts since the early 1980s, so I'm not sure what 'tallying' the away clubs would want to do.

 

[Sean Thornton]

and numbers dont add up
if a season ticket holder doesnt go as far as Im aware its usually passed to someone else to use

if its as some say 3000 dont turn up out of our 18000 ST holders , that equates to 1 in 6 missing and some season ticket holders missing 4 to 5 games a season to reach that level of counting Ticket holders missing

no point in buying a season ticket if your ging to miss one in 4 home games

Why bring gingers into it?

 

[I should coco]

Why bring gingers into it?

They might have cats and of course, all felines are included.

HTH

 

[Sean Thornton]

Don't be so harsh on yourself.



What about kitchen sink makers? I'm sure they need to know.

It may surprise you to learn that the FAC apart, home clubs have kept gate receipts since the early 1980s, so I'm not sure what 'tallying' the away clubs would want to do.

The level of policing required is evaluated pre match. They don't bus more in if the announced attendance is more than initially thought. "Hello, Durham Constabulary? SYP here send us six officers down asap only there's 250 more than we thought at BL today. Be quick, the match ends in thirty minutes ......"

 

[I should coco]

"Hello, Durham Constabulary? SYP here send us six officers down asap only there's 250 more than we thought at BL today. Be quick, the match ends in thirty minutes ......"

"Durham? It's SYP here again. Some of the extra 250 turned out to be cats, so we only need an extra 3 and a half coppers now. Get a move on, as the game ends in twenty five minutes"

 

[Sean Thornton]

"Durham? It's SYP here again. Some of the extra 250 turned out to be cats, so we only need an extra 3 and a half coppers now. Get a move on, as the game ends in twenty five minutes"

"SYP again. All gone pear shaped. Blades Business Canines have turned up. It's barking here. Send all you've got. In next twenty minutes"

 

[snootyfenooty]

Bladey Inferiority Complex now seeks to diminish our attendance figures. The crowd figure was about right. I was there and called it. Talk of 20,000 is absolute drivel. I’ve seen 20,000 crowds at The Lane and that was not one of them.

Fucking hell you never give up do you? You've already been proved wrong so why are you still pursuing this.

For the record, if you read my post properly, which shouldn't be too difficult for someone as articulate as you claim to be, you will note that I estimated the gate to be closer to 20k rather than the announced 24k. Therefore the only drivel being spouted is your interpretation of this as me stating there was only 20k there.

Look, you lost the main argument after your pathetic appeal to Foxy to intervene. Go and make yourself a cup of tea to wash down your blood pressure pill and get over it.

 

[Jon Bon II]

Bladey Inferiority Complex now seeks to diminish our attendance figures. The crowd figure was about right. I was there and called it. Talk of 20,000 is absolute drivel. I’ve seen 20,000 crowds at The Lane and that was not one of them.

Pinchy, FFS stop making me like your fucking posts..!!!

 

[Sean Thornton]

Fucking hell you never give up do you? You've already been proved wrong so why are you still pursuing this.

For the record, if you read my post properly, which shouldn't be too difficult for someone as articulate as you claim to be, you will note that I estimated the gate to be closer to 20k rather than the announced 24k. Therefore the only drivel being spouted is your interpretation of this as me stating there was only 20k there.

Look, you lost the main argument after your pathetic appeal to Foxy to intervene. Go and make yourself a cup of tea to wash down your blood pressure pill and get over it.

Has anyone been "proved" wrong? We're all speculating unless there's anyone who counted the crowd. Silent?

 

[snootyfenooty]

Has anyone been "proved" wrong? We're all speculating unless there's anyone who counted the crowd. Silent?

The argument was whether or not non-attending season ticket holders were counted in the attendance or not. They are.

 

[I should coco]

We're all speculating unless there's anyone who counted the crowd. Silent?

AIUI, he's deaf, not daft.

 

[Sean Thornton]

The argument was whether or not non-attending season ticket holders were counted in the attendance or not. They are.

The bit about nearer 20k or 24k doesn't count then?

 

[snootyfenooty]

The bit about nearer 20k or 24k doesn't count then?

21,999 is nearer 20k than 24k. The attendance is a matter of opinion and is open to discussion. I haven't seen any evidence to prove who was right or wrong yet. The bit about ST holders where Pinchy launched one of his verbal assaults was put to bed and this is the issue where we were "exchanging" views on the subject. If you want to discuss the actual attendance, fine, I'll try to make a constructive contribution without accusing you of spouting drivel.

 

[Sean Thornton]

21,999 is nearer 20k than 24k. The attendance is a matter of opinion and is open to discussion. I haven't seen any evidence to prove who was right or wrong yet. The bit about ST holders where Pinchy launched one of his verbal assaults was put to bed and this is the issue where we were "exchanging" views on the subject. If you want to discuss the actual attendance, fine, I'll try to make a constructive contribution without accusing you of spouting drivel.

Nip round to Pinchys for one of those BP tabs Snooty. Jesus.

 

[snootyfenooty]

Nip round to Pinchys for one of those BP tabs Snooty. Jesus.

I've already taken mine!

 

[AWetFlannel]

Bladey Inferiority Complex now seeks to diminish our attendance figures. The crowd figure was about right. I was there and called it. Talk of 20,000 is absolute drivel. I’ve seen 20,000 crowds at The Lane and that was not one of them.

You'd think after calling for Foxy and being proved wrong you'd have some shame and shutup...

 

[tyke1889]

That's absolutely disgraceful!!!!

(and if you give me a little time, i'll try an work out why )

Yep I'm a bad blade for not walking out of work and getting the sack cos bleedin Sky changed the date, the wankers!

 

[NuddysGloves]

Yep I'm a bad blade for not walking out of work and getting the sack cos bleedin Sky changed the date, the wankers!

Admittance is the first step.....

 

[Harrisblade]

Yep I'm a bad blade for not walking out of work and getting the sack cos bleedin Sky changed the date, the wankers!

It was the "I was counted in the attendance figures" that I found disgraceful (in reference to earlier comments)

 

[Sean Thornton]

Admittance is the first step.....

To being counted in the attendance?

 

[Tommoblade66]

Seemed like less than that to me.

Think it goes on tickets sold, not the number of people that actually turn up

 

[georgebernardshaw]

I was in the ground on Friday night and just before kick off I looked around and said I reckon there's about 24,000 in here. I was wrong obviously, by about 400. But it looked like about 24,000 to me.

Why do folks want to debate this? What's all this about the club fiddling the numbers or whatever? It just doesn't make any sense why the club would want to do that. I can only assume some fans think they have tremendous powers of foresight that they can look around a ground and be more accurate in their prediction of the numbers than the official attendance report. These same folk should go down the sweet shop and try and guess how many sweeties are in the jars. They could make a fortune from that.

An obvious front runner for “Patronising Post of the Year 2017” - don’t forget to vote for the “Most Patronising Poster of 2017”, the current form shows Pinchy and Cerberus Blade to be strong candidates.

 

[Sean Thornton]

An obvious front runner for “Patronising Post of the Year 2017” - don’t forget to vote for the “Most Patronising Poster of 2017”, the current form shows Pinchy and Cerberus Blade to be strong candidates.

Pinchy is funny though.

 

[sufcboy95]

Was surprised at how high the attendance was. Atmosphere was poor though

 

[Fanny magnet]

Pinchy is funny though.

His predictions are

 

[shrubbery]

Anybody with functioning eyes could see that there wasn’t 24k in the stadium on Friday night. There were empty areas all over the place including a bunch of ST holders that didn’t turn up who normally sit around me.

Announcing attendances that contain ST holders that haven’t turned up is frankly cringeworthy regardless of who else does the same.

The club knows exactly how many people have entered the turnstiles and it is this number that would obviously be passed to the emergency services if required and it is this number that should be announced and released to the press. It just sounds so fucking desperate to massage the figures like we do.