2 years ago 20th aug 2016

[blade too long]

united lost to a stupid last minute penalty at millwall
and some on here said Wilder had been a big mistake after we sat at the bottom of league one after 4 games

panic was all around as our dedicated team of doom mongers were in full voice


are we glad he stayed

 

[SwissBlade]

united lost to a stupid last minute penalty at millwall
and some on here said Wilder had been a big mistake after we sat at the bottom of league one after 4 games

panic was all around as our dedicated team of doom mongers were in full voice


are we glad he stayed

Sat august 22nd 2015

Sheffield United 2 - 0 Blackpool

Many on here were saying that Adkins was still the right man...

Sometimes it takes longer than 3-4 games, yet people will call it as they see it.

Personally i only ever start to get a feel for the season after 8-10 games

 

[super_pig]

nobody thought Adkins was the right man?

 

[Rodders]

united lost to a stupid last minute penalty at millwall
and some on here said Wilder had been a big mistake after we sat at the bottom of league one after 4 games

panic was all around as our dedicated team of doom mongers were in full voice


are we glad he stayed

Are you honestly doing a thread about predictions?

 

[SB_90]

lets not forget the years we had gone through at that point weir, clough (2nd year) & adkins continual league disappointment. so be bottom of league going into oxford. its natural for us to thing oh no here we go again its adams & weir again. majority of people weren't doom mongers. after the horror show of southend, when I got reminded through 'timehop' feature. I describe defending for southends 2nd 3rd & 4th like putting fifa on easiest setting for a laugh

 

[Bladesway]

Are you honestly doing a thread about predictions?

No, it’s a thread about how he is always right apart from that time he did an utter 180 on Adkins. But you already knew that.

 

[Bladesway]

lets not forget the years we had gone through at that point weir, clough (2nd year) & adkins continual league disappointment. so be bottom of league going into oxford. its natural for us to thing oh no here we go again its adams & weir again. majority of people weren't doom mongers. after the horror show of southend, when I got reminded through 'timehop' feature. I describe defending for southends 2nd 3rd & 4th like putting fifa on easiest setting for a laugh

Football makes mugs out of us all. Sometimes you wait for a player or manager to come good and it just doesn’t happen. Other times you are sure (like Adkins) it’s right and it turns out to be wrong. After the false dawns and eternal nights we have experinced being cynical is built in. Doesn’t mean we are less happy when we are proven wrong.

 

[blade too long]

No, it’s a thread about how he is always right apart from that time he did an utter 180 on Adkins. But you already knew that.

Never did a 180 on Adkins said like everyone after we went top after 6 games he surprised me and should give him a chance but was convinced by January he was not the answer. I was calling for his head by february .It's the same with players you have to see 10 games to assess them But you tell continous stream of lies to back up your lies. And just to be clear I think we can squeeze into the play offs if we get the rub this season .. for your records

 

[Damski]

I went with a few American pals who found the Millwall experience interesting, to say the least. We were at a very low point as a group of fans at that game. Scougall's equaliser was met with such a small reaction from our fans it made me a bit sad. Mad to say that about an away goal, but that's how bad it was at that stage. Their penalty was kind of just a shrug moment - It felt inevitable that we'd screw it up somehow. We travelled into the centre of London to have a few drinks afterwards and I was silent in the taxi, and the lads were all ribbing me. Shit day! But the rest, as they say, is Tufty...

 

[blade too long]

Are you honestly doing a thread about predictions?

How do you get that from are we glad he stayed.
Seems pretty unambiguos

 

[DaleHillBlade]

Let's not revisionism take hold. There were plenty of people on here who supported Adkins well into the season, myself included. Barney I am sure will attest. We saw the success he had previously and recognised the size of the job he had at our Club. Only as the season progressed did it become increasingly apparent that he wasn't a fit.

 

[coolhandluke]

united lost to a stupid last minute penalty at millwall
and some on here said Wilder had been a big mistake after we sat at the bottom of league one after 4 games

panic was all around as our dedicated team of doom mongers were in full voice


are we glad he stayed

I didn't want him when he was first announced . I was proved wrong and held my hands up and said I was wrong .

Not only this, but Wilders first season as manager saw me purchase a season ticket at the Lane for the first time since the 91/92 season regardless of my opinion of his appointment . Why ? Because unlike Warnock and Adams etc Wilders a ' proper blade ' and deserves all the support he can get .

I have serious concerns about Wilders long term tenure at the Lane and I've voiced these on here . But at the Lane I stand side by side with him in an unconditional manner . I've NEVER booed a player, the team or any manager at a game in over 40 years supporting the Blades .

So, in your opinion where does that place me in your overall assessment of our fan base?

 

[blade too long]

any fan with a semblance of faith and hope is a true fan
those that look for fault or as some seem to enjoy us be uncomfortable annoy me

weve made grevious errors in the past , at board managerial and player levels
but we should leave the past right there
not continuously churn it up and say Ive been hurt
we all have , but its time to move on

supporter , some should look up the definition

 

[Bruce Wayne]

united lost to a stupid last minute penalty at millwall
and some on here said Wilder had been a big mistake after we sat at the bottom of league one after 4 games

panic was all around as our dedicated team of doom mongers were in full voice


are we glad he stayed

No wished we'd sacked him. Seriously don't get this post, are you like hunting?

 

[blade too long]

No wished we'd sacked him. Seriously don't get this post, are you like hunting?

was just saying 2 years ago his career was in the balance , poor start , come from a lower division club
had to prove his worth ,,,, luckily it worked out

no ulterior motive

losing our first 2, showed you have setbacks , its always the reaction that defines you
Chris just keeps on motivating us onwards and upwards

im very glad he stayed

hard though it is to believe some of us dont have conspiracy theories driving us on
we just back the club

 

[Redhead]

Some football fans are as fickle as f&*k.

Ours are no different. We lose a couple of games and Jack and the rest are shite and fat. The same ones will say Jack is worth £15m and then some.

Thats how football is. No patience. A bit like life really.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

was just saying 2 years ago his career was in the balance , poor start , come from a lower division club
had to prove his worth ,,,, luckily it worked out

no ulterior motive

losing our first 2, showed you have setbacks , its always the reaction that defines you
Chris just keeps on motivating us onwards and upwards

im very glad he stayed

hard though it is to believe some of us dont have conspiracy theories driving us on
we just back the club

Nobody wanted him out at that point.

 

[itsinyerblood]

I didn't want him when he was first announced . I was proved wrong and held my hands up and said I was wrong .

Not only this, but Wilders first season as manager saw me purchase a season ticket at the Lane for the first time since the 91/92 season regardless of my opinion of his appointment . Why ? Because unlike Warnock and Adams etc Wilders a ' proper blade ' and deserves all the support he can get .

I have serious concerns about Wilders long term tenure at the Lane and I've voiced these on here . But at the Lane I stand side by side with him in an unconditional manner . I've NEVER booed a player, the team or any manager at a game in over 40 years supporting the Blades .

So, in your opinion where does that place me in your overall assessment of our fan base?

Luke, you recently posted a thread suggesting that Wilder's time was up. So your original dislike of Wilder still exists, or has something changed?

 

[blade too long]

Nobody wanted him out at that point.

really ,,, want to look back at posts on aug 21st 2016

 

[Bruce Wayne]

really ,,, want to look back at posts on aug 21st 2016

OK very few then. There were worries but who said sack him?

 

[blade too long]

OK very few then. There were worries but who said sack him?

Im not hunting people who held opinions then , I just want us to move on together with fresh hope , and a bit of belief we are back and competing
as a decent chamiionship side , thats hopefully learnt from past mistakes
We have a lot to make up on other clubs who have better resourses so our togetherness is one thing we can use to make up some of the gap
If we pull together , instead of continually seeking to look for failure, and selecting players out for ridicule

 

[Woodward's Currie]

I thought the appointment of Wilder was another cheap option taken by the board . Please to see l was wrong and l believe he's our best manager since Bassett and if given the time Harris.

 

[coolhandluke]

Luke, you recently posted a thread suggesting that Wilder's time was up. So your original dislike of Wilder still exists, or has something changed?

No, nothing's changed . The post you are referring to was one I made with tongue very clearly placed in cheek and a reaction to the sheer volume of flack going Wilders way after ONE game .

Regardless of my feelings towards Wilder and even if I did hate the man with a vengeance ( which I steadfastly don't, never have and almost certainly never will ) there's simply no way that I'd be calling for his head, telling him I didn't trust him or questioning his ability after ONE game .

For the record when Wilder was appointed I was against his appointment simply on the grounds that I felt the job here was far too big for him ( excuse my attack of ' massivitis ' here ) . I knew he had a good, solid footballing pedigree, but the job at the Lane was simply far and away bigger and more complex than any he'd ever been anywhere near . Fair play to him though, the way he transformed our on the field fortunes AND got every level and facet of the club singing from the same hymn sheet was nothing short of miraculous . I was one seriously happy chap to be proved wrong about Wilders managerial ability .

Following his first season here and what's subsequently happened I'm delighted he's at our Club and I now have complete faith in his ability . The issue I have right now though is related to the fact that he is a ' proper blade ' . I've never met the man and quite how I've never met him is a mystery to me as a lot of the lads down at the Lane who are good friends of his are friends of mine too and I know with absolute certainty that he is the real deal . His affiliation to the Club isn't some rehashing of a time he went to a match at the Lane 30 years ago, hasn't been since, but is now all of a sudden a diehard blade ala Neil Warnock . But what happens if and when we do hit a sticky patch ? Will his affiliation with the club over decades cloud his judgement in anyway ? Will certain elements of our ' fan base ' who are notoriously fickle turn on him very publicly ? If they do things could get hostile very quickly . And it's that kind of shit storm I'd hate to witness . The only thing I am totally certain about though is this, no matter how bad things get and no matter how much flack go's the way of CW, I'll be one Blade that's behind him every step of the way . Why ? Cos he's one of us .

 

[1973Blade]

At 92 football league clubs, if they win the next five league games fans will worship their manager as a Saint. If they lose the next five matches, the same fans would be calling for his head. United fans are no different. Personally, being a sentimental softy, I never like calling for a manager to be sacked. If I was the chairman we would still have Billy McEwan in charge. Just as well I'm only a fan I guess.

 

[BigBed]

nobody thought Adkins was the right man?

Nobody thought he was right in the head eather!

 

[TTMeysh]

For me an alarm bell went off with Adkins when I saw his first interview after his appointment. Admittedly unlike Bryan Robson his hands weren't actually shaking, but the stream of bullshit coming out of his mouth was deeply disturbing.

He's a good example of why not very bright people should be banned from reading motivational literature.

 

[itsinyerblood]

No, nothing's changed . The post you are referring to was one I made with tongue very clearly placed in cheek and a reaction to the sheer volume of flack going Wilders way after ONE game .

Regardless of my feelings towards Wilder and even if I did hate the man with a vengeance ( which I steadfastly don't, never have and almost certainly never will ) there's simply no way that I'd be calling for his head, telling him I didn't trust him or questioning his ability after ONE game .

For the record when Wilder was appointed I was against his appointment simply on the grounds that I felt the job here was far too big for him ( excuse my attack of ' massivitis ' here ) . I knew he had a good, solid footballing pedigree, but the job at the Lane was simply far and away bigger and more complex than any he'd ever been anywhere near . Fair play to him though, the way he transformed our on the field fortunes AND got every level and facet of the club singing from the same hymn sheet was nothing short of miraculous . I was one seriously happy chap to be proved wrong about Wilders managerial ability .

Following his first season here and what's subsequently happened I'm delighted he's at our Club and I now have complete faith in his ability . The issue I have right now though is related to the fact that he is a ' proper blade ' . I've never met the man and quite how I've never met him is a mystery to me as a lot of the lads down at the Lane who are good friends of his are friends of mine too and I know with absolute certainty that he is the real deal . His affiliation to the Club isn't some rehashing of a time he went to a match at the Lane 30 years ago, hasn't been since, but is now all of a sudden a diehard blade ala Neil Warnock . But what happens if and when we do hit a sticky patch ? Will his affiliation with the club over decades cloud his judgement in anyway ? Will certain elements of our ' fan base ' who are notoriously fickle turn on him very publicly ? If they do things could get hostile very quickly . And it's that kind of shit storm I'd hate to witness . The only thing I am totally certain about though is this, no matter how bad things get and no matter how much flack go's the way of CW, I'll be one Blade that's behind him every step of the way . Why ? Cos he's one of us .

Personally, it still fascinates me how people seem to consider Wilder's love for the club is confused with an attitude of blind loyalty. Many times Wilder has reiterated that he's loyal but not sentimental. It's this lack of sentiment that probably drives him on, and certainly as we've all witnessed, there have been moments when he might have been prepared to leave his position. Wilder clearly loves the fact that he now manages the club he followed as a lad, but he's realist enough to understand the dynamics of everyday football and what it will take to make us a club capable of reaching the Premiership and staying there. Personally I try to avoid comparing us with other clubs. It's all about the quality of those you employ, and we can only hope that the club's employees are possessed of the type of qualities to bring us the success we all crave.

It was only a couple of weeks ago that we witnessed an outbreak of mild hysteria wrapped up as sincere concern, yet here we are, currently in 9th position, a quality acquisition in Norwood to strengthen the ranks, and those who were hostile towards Wilder are now conspicuous by their silence. Sometimes it's best if you wait before revealing your hand, otherwise all that happens is you minimise the effectiveness of your message.

What the club, meaning the Board, has to do is maintain a straight path with Wilder. No games, no half-truths, and certainly no deceits. That way we'll get the very best that this man has to offer, and for what it's worth I feel that CW, and AK, have far more to offer the further we progress.

In the meantime I expect the occasional outburst from the minority of 'concerned' citizens should we lose the odd game as the season progresses. I doubt they'll be able to resist the "I know best" approach they seem so well suited for. Whether their contribution is matched by an understanding of what's involved in managing a squad of talented players I remain to be convinced.

 

[Deadly_D'Jaffo]

Some football fans are as fickle as f&*k.

Ours are no different. We lose a couple of games and Jack and the rest are shite and fat. The same ones will say Jack is worth £15m and then some.

Thats how football is. No patience. A bit like life really.

Perhaps the way the world has formed is to blame (i.e. 'Want it now' attitude and social media amplifying the noise of knownowt bellends has a lot to answer for).

I also think the likes of Champ Manager & Fifa have made anyone with 20+ hours p/week spare into a well informed scout/coach/footballer.

I sit in front of a youngish kid who commentates on every single movement on the pitch. What type of cross to put in, how he should have finished it, what tactics we should adopt and what signings United should've made....He's about 5"9 and must weigh 14 stone...

 

[DifferentClass]

Thought the Miwwaw game was an improvement on the Sarfend shitshow. It was Moore's first game and it was only a dodgy pen that cost us a point. Little did I know what was to come...