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If we sign Brewster, he won't count towards the 25 man squad, will he?

We still have 1 more domestic loan to use and if i'm right, a foreign loan... i think we need to go for an attacking midfielder. Think we are really lightweight in the midfield department, need that player who can thread through a pass to Burke or Moose up top. We're missing that final killer pass, we play it far too safe and i think that's just because of the players we have
 

We have a good attacking midfielder in McG and I reckon McB makes a better attacking midfielder than striker (he currently makes a better hat stand than striker). He may not be an expert at threading an exquisite ball through, but he's industrious and attack-minded, wins balls and causes a lot of problems on the edge of the area.
We really need a natural striker who knows where the back of the net is.
 
Not sure how many buttons we are short of for getting (or not forgetting) Brewster but if we get him on loan (serious possibility?) and push the boat out for Folarin Balogun and then that young German on loan from Bayern, Leon Dajaku, assuming we had the money we would be quids in.
Who shall we then go for to strengthen our midfield and thread those balls through? Intriguing?
 
Hamburg Blade said:
We have a good attacking midfielder in McG and I reckon McB makes a better attacking midfielder than striker (he currently makes a better hat stand than striker). He may not be an expert at threading an exquisite ball through, but he's industrious and attack-minded, wins balls and causes a lot of problems on the edge of the area.
We really need a natural striker who knows where the back of the net is.
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Someone with say a hundred or two career goals to his name.

Perhaps ?

UTB
 
Chris Wilder has performed miracles during his tenure, but the team he has put together, in their defensive duties are Premier League class, but are woefully short of attacking prowess.

We MUST buy an attacking midfielder and two additional strikers, without them we will simply not score enough goals to survive. I just don’t buy this not enough money, our Premier League status is worth, including PP, in excess of £300 m, where on earth has that been spent.

£93m on players apparently
First team building at Shirecliffe £1m?
Future Academy, purchase of site at Norton £2m?
Wage bill £13m

How can we not afford to buy? Why scrimp and save, if you ultimately end up financially weaker than your peers?

Our Premier League tenure is very much in its infancy and all investment at this point, should be going into the playing squad, not the ground or academy, we have to retain our status or any infrastructure investment is pointless.

An established competitive squad should be our only priority, get that right and the rest will follow in time. Get it wrong or fail to invest and we’ll be right back where we came from in the blink of an eye, I’m afraid 😦
 
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1889 said:
Chris Wilder has performed miracles during his tenure, but the team he has put together, in their defensive duties are Premier League class, but are woefully short of attacking prowess.

We MUST buy an attacking midfielder and two additional strikers, without them we will simply not score enough goals to survive. I just don’t buy this not enough money, our Premier League status is worth, including PP, in excess of £300 m, where on earth has that been spent.

£93m on players apparently
First team building at Shirecliffe £1m?
Future Academy, purchase of site at Norton £2m?
Wage bill £13m

How can we not afford to buy? Why scrimp and save, if you ultimately end up financially weaker than your peers?
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The wage bill is north of £45 Mill....
 
DronnieBlade said:
Someone with say a hundred or two career goals to his name.

Perhaps ?

UTB
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He knows where the back of the net is but needs to hop on someone's back for a piggyback ride to get there fast enough
 
SufcBilly said:
The wage bill is north of £45 Mill....
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There’s been some significant wage increases since last season then pal!
 
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There’s been some significant wage increases since last season then pal!
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Dont think it includes the bonuses the players got for staying up. I think low wage but high bonuses is the best way
 
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There’s been some significant wage increases since last season then pal!
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£13m p.a for the entire staff is utter tosh.

Based on 30 staff that averages at just over £8k p.w.

Based on 20 staff (we have a playing staff of first team squad pros more than that) that averages about £12.5k p.w.

As I say, tosh !!

UTB
 

SufcBilly said:
United's wage bill in 2017/18 was £19 Mill....
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That includes the £8m players Pro rata bonus pot for promotion to the Premier League, but whatever you say, its some distance South of your £45m?

Whatever the actual figure, it is significantly less than most Premier League teams and does not put much of a dent in the £120m p/a income. So why cant we compete in the transfer market?
 
Wage bill according to our accounts on companies house is £40,654,184 for the year ending June 2019
 
DronnieBlade said:
Someone with say a hundred or two career goals to his name.

Perhaps ?

UTB
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I love Billy to bits but if a PL club had come in for him when we were in the Champ or League 1 we'd have thought it was a wind up.

Pushing 35 and scored 3 last season.

If he's our best attacking option then relegation is nailed on.

Wilder doesn't do too much sentiment and neither should he.
 
Davalon said:
Wilder doesn't do too much sentiment
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He re-signed Ched Evans after a stint in the nick, plays Billy Sharp up top in the Premier League regularly and re-signed former GK Rammers. I’d strongly disagree with that comment.
 
Davalon said:
I love Billy to bits but if a PL club had come in for him when we were in the Champ or League 1 we'd have thought it was a wind up.

Pushing 35 and scored 3 last season.

If he's our best attacking option then relegation is nailed on.

Wilder doesn't do too much sentiment and neither should he.
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I’ll say it here and now. Legs have not gone. 100% not. Age is a number and only that. Often used as a stick to beat without much foundation tbh. It will catch up eventually of course, but what evidence is there that that time is now ?

None as far as I can see.

In the right championship side, would still be good for 20 odd a season and I can see no reason why this does not translate to 10+ in the PL.

20 odd goals a season championship players don’t grow on trees.

Wilder, and most of our fans, are short changing the lad. IMHO.

Still has much to offer when a side can actually manage to utilise his strengths and attributes to good effect. And with the right partner, who isn’t you know who 😉.

UTB
 
just doesn't look like we've recovered from last seasons restart ... lacklustre .... dont understand what Flecks doing most of time .... need to click very soon!
 
Hamburg Blade said:
We have a good attacking midfielder in McG and I reckon McB makes a better attacking midfielder than striker (he currently makes a better hat stand than striker). He may not be an expert at threading an exquisite ball through, but he's industrious and attack-minded, wins balls and causes a lot of problems on the edge of the area.
We really need a natural striker who knows where the back of the net is.
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So Wilder took both of them into the team with the wisdom from above, that they'd make good midfielders? Okay, I didn't realize that cunny masterplan. 18,5 million quids for a striker we played as a striker last year - and who you yourself, just few months back thought would outclass pretty much everyone in the PL - is now suddenly playing a midfielder cameo-role? That's h*ll of a plan! Let us just keep quiet about it, lest Leeds finds out. I'm just puzzled at to why would we need to by any strikers? That certainly wasn't your opinion a few months back (we were going to f*king win the league, were we not?) - but hey, let us give it a f*cking rest, as it suits you. Wilder out, Hamburg Blade in. In Hamburg Blade we trust!
 
There's some real naivety on here.

Huddersfield's wage bill went up from £21m to £61m in the season after they were promoted.

Burnley, prudent Burnley paid £87m in wages 2018/19. Players usually account for around two-thirds of that

Some fans seem to think our players didn't get massive pay rises when they became PL players
 
A couple of weeks back, Wilder said he was happy with our midfield options and we were looking at bringing in a forward, probably on loan. That might have changed after he's seen our first two games (I think we desperately need another RCM option, personally), but I wouldn't be surprised if we don't make any more permanent signings.
 
WestSiberiaBlade said:
So Wilder took both of them into the team with the wisdom from above, that they'd make good midfielders? Okay, I didn't realize that cunny masterplan. 18,5 million quids for a striker we played as a striker last year - and who you yourself, just few months back thought would outclass pretty much everyone in the PL - is now suddenly playing a midfielder cameo-role? That's h*ll of a plan! Let us just keep quiet about it, lest Leeds finds out. I'm just puzzled at to why would we need to by any strikers? That certainly wasn't your opinion a few months back (we were going to f*king win the league, were we not?) - but hey, let us give it a f*cking rest, as it suits you. Wilder out, Hamburg Blade in. In Hamburg Blade we trust!
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Ah, my stalker's off on one again.
18,5 million quids for a striker we played as a striker last year - and who you yourself, just few months back thought would outclass pretty much everyone in the PL
Find me the quote where I said that.
That certainly wasn't your opinion a few months back (we were going to f*king win the league, were we not?)
Find me the quote where I said that.
 
DronnieBlade said:
Someone with say a hundred or two career goals to his name.

Perhaps ?

UTB
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As I said in a previous discussion a short while back, I think on the Mousset thread, for minutes played Billy gave a reasonable return and I would have liked to have seen him played more last season and not just as a fire-fighter or brought on when we were losing. He can still do a job for us, but I think he needs to settle with the right partner and he especially needs to goal poach more and fetch the ball less.
However, we still need a younger, Billy Mk 2 from somewhere - although I fully appreciate how hard it is to find one, so no criticism of the club from me on that. I'm sure Wilder thought either McB or the Moose would be that man (I still think Mousset could be) - perhaps Burke will be, but it would be good if we could bring in another.
 
Same old United though, everything done on a wing and a prayer. I’m also getting the impression there’s a bit of a gravy train now at the Lane. Seriously, two year deals for Sharp and McGoldrick? Does Jagielka really deserve another year on a reported £40k a week? The combined wages of these three alone could have been put towards younger, faster, up and coming strikers. Nothing against all three at all but there should no sentiment especially with our transfer and wage budget.
 

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