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Over the last 15 years I have used various sites like Ancestry and Find my Past to trace mine and my wife's family history. At the moment there are no new record sets to search I thought about doing a bit of Blades related research.

We all know our brief golden period was at the turn of the last century. I decided to look at the 1901 census to see how many players involved in the Champion and cup winning sides.

Some of the addresses still exist, some don't and they certainly weren't multi millionaires living in the sort of luxury our current crop of top flight stars have grown accustomed to. On the contrary, they often lived with extended family or lodged with friends or family. Some were easier to locate than others and there are 2 for whom a bit of extra verification data would have been beneficial.

So, here are the ones I have found so far.

William 'Fatty' Foulkes
8 Belgrave Square, Sheffield
this grand sounding address is situated behind the former Earl of Arundel pub a stone's throw from the Lane. Half the square still exist but, unfortunately, Foulkes has made way for the Belgrave Medical Centre. In 1901 he was living there with his wife, 2 sons (one called Redvers), a niece and a boarder.

Ernest Needham
6 Hartington Cottages, Staveley
Again, no longer standing but an old OS map shows them along the bottom end of Eckington Road. Needham lived with his parents in law, his wife, 2 young daughters and 2 of his wife's brothers, both coal hewers like their father.

Tommy Morren
123 Abbeydale Road
I haven't had chance to check this one but I would guess it's still standing. At firt I had some issues with this entry because he gives his occupation as Iron Founder. However, the age and place of birth (Sunderland) are correct and, crucially, his mother Margaret is living with him which allowed me to trace them on previous census records. His father's occupatoin is also given as Iron Founder. I can only speculate as to why he doesn't give his profession as footballer; not widhing to be recognised by the census officer or, more likely, not seeing football as his long term source of income.

Walter Bennett
2 Shelly Street, Mexborough
I can't find any trace of this on Google Maps. Also living at the same address: his parents and 4 siblings. His father's occupation is given as barman and one of his brothers was a billiard marker.

Harry Thickett
66 Urban Road, Hexthorpe, Doncaster
This is an address I came across accidentally recently so I know it exists. We were trying to find the entrance to Hexthorpe Park and overshot, ended up going up Urban Road a couple of times trying to find where we were going. Thickett lived with his wife, his wife's aunt (a retired cow keeper we are told), 4 children and a boarder and fellow United player George Headley.

William Harrison 'Harry' Johnson

Far Lane, Wadsley
I am still a little unsure of this one. It's a common name and, like Morren, the occupation is not given as footballer. He has a son born in 1898 called Harry which fits with our Harry's son, our leading goalscorer of all time. His occupation is given as Gannister Miner. A quick google search shows this to be a form of sandstone much used in lining furnaces. The location is consistent with the part of Sheffield that Johnson came from.

Peter Boyle
19 Alderson Place, Sheffield
Another one handy for the Lane. Irish born Boyle had a Scottish wife

Herbert Lipsham
111 Cemetry Road, Sheffield
Since demolished I would guess roughly where the flats are on the left as you come up the hill. Again Lipsham was a lodger. More difficult to find this one as his name has been incorrectly transcribed as Lipshaw, not an uncommon problem with genealogy sights.

There are still a few more I have failed to locate but I'll keep trying. I hope some of you may find this interesting; perhaps we could lobby the council for some sort of blue plaque scheme. It fascinates me the way people lived over a century ago and the fact that many of them lived so far from the ground (I checked, the season was still in progress when the census was taken). Testament, perhaps, to a decent public transport system at the time.
 

Over the last 15 years I have used various sites like Ancestry and Find my Past to trace mine and my wife's family history. At the moment there are no new record sets to search I thought about doing a bit of Blades related research.

We all know our brief golden period was at the turn of the last century. I decided to look at the 1901 census to see how many players involved in the Champion and cup winning sides.

Some of the addresses still exist, some don't and they certainly weren't multi millionaires living in the sort of luxury our current crop of top flight stars have grown accustomed to. On the contrary, they often lived with extended family or lodged with friends or family. Some were easier to locate than others and there are 2 for whom a bit of extra verification data would have been beneficial.

So, here are the ones I have found so far.

William 'Fatty' Foulkes
8 Belgrave Square, Sheffield
this grand sounding address is situated behind the former Earl of Arundel pub a stone's throw from the Lane. Half the square still exist but, unfortunately, Foulkes has made way for the Belgrave Medical Centre. In 1901 he was living there with his wife, 2 sons (one called Redvers), a niece and a boarder.

Ernest Needham
6 Hartington Cottages, Staveley
Again, no longer standing but an old OS map shows them along the bottom end of Eckington Road. Needham lived with his parents in law, his wife, 2 young daughters and 2 of his wife's brothers, both coal hewers like their father.

Tommy Morren
123 Abbeydale Road
I haven't had chance to check this one but I would guess it's still standing. At firt I had some issues with this entry because he gives his occupation as Iron Founder. However, the age and place of birth (Sunderland) are correct and, crucially, his mother Margaret is living with him which allowed me to trace them on previous census records. His father's occupatoin is also given as Iron Founder. I can only speculate as to why he doesn't give his profession as footballer; not widhing to be recognised by the census officer or, more likely, not seeing football as his long term source of income.

Walter Bennett
2 Shelly Street, Mexborough
I can't find any trace of this on Google Maps. Also living at the same address: his parents and 4 siblings. His father's occupation is given as barman and one of his brothers was a billiard marker.

Harry Thickett
66 Urban Road, Hexthorpe, Doncaster
This is an address I came across accidentally recently so I know it exists. We were trying to find the entrance to Hexthorpe Park and overshot, ended up going up Urban Road a couple of times trying to find where we were going. Thickett lived with his wife, his wife's aunt (a retired cow keeper we are told), 4 children and a boarder and fellow United player George Headley.

William Harrison 'Harry' Johnson

Far Lane, Wadsley
I am still a little unsure of this one. It's a common name and, like Morren, the occupation is not given as footballer. He has a son born in 1898 called Harry which fits with our Harry's son, our leading goalscorer of all time. His occupation is given as Gannister Miner. A quick google search shows this to be a form of sandstone much used in lining furnaces. The location is consistent with the part of Sheffield that Johnson came from.

Peter Boyle
19 Alderson Place, Sheffield
Another one handy for the Lane. Irish born Boyle had a Scottish wife

Herbert Lipsham
111 Cemetry Road, Sheffield
Since demolished I would guess roughly where the flats are on the left as you come up the hill. Again Lipsham was a lodger. More difficult to find this one as his name has been incorrectly transcribed as Lipshaw, not an uncommon problem with genealogy sights.

There are still a few more I have failed to locate but I'll keep trying. I hope some of you may find this interesting; perhaps we could lobby the council for some sort of blue plaque scheme. It fascinates me the way people lived over a century ago and the fact that many of them lived so far from the ground (I checked, the season was still in progress when the census was taken). Testament, perhaps, to a decent public transport system at the time.
 
W H ' Old' Harry Johnson - played for England and also Blades in 3 cup finals , think I'm right in saying he was the father of Harry Johnson our all time record scorer ?

Was also the first captain of the cricket club where I spent most of my young life , Whitley Hall CC.
 
I once chatted with a 90 yr old who used to play for his village team, sometimes they had to cycle 10 miles there & back when playing away. I have also traced my family tree & have a few Needhams in it, coalminers living in the Woodhouse area & married at Handsworth church, maybe I'm related to a Blades player of old
 
Logged in to give a like.Just one point though,blue plaques are a definite no no.
 
Over the last 15 years I have used various sites like Ancestry and Find my Past to trace mine and my wife's family history. At the moment there are no new record sets to search I thought about doing a bit of Blades related research.

We all know our brief golden period was at the turn of the last century. I decided to look at the 1901 census to see how many players involved in the Champion and cup winning sides.

Some of the addresses still exist, some don't and they certainly weren't multi millionaires living in the sort of luxury our current crop of top flight stars have grown accustomed to. On the contrary, they often lived with extended family or lodged with friends or family. Some were easier to locate than others and there are 2 for whom a bit of extra verification data would have been beneficial.

So, here are the ones I have found so far.

William 'Fatty' Foulkes
8 Belgrave Square, Sheffield
this grand sounding address is situated behind the former Earl of Arundel pub a stone's throw from the Lane. Half the square still exist but, unfortunately, Foulkes has made way for the Belgrave Medical Centre. In 1901 he was living there with his wife, 2 sons (one called Redvers), a niece and a boarder.

Ernest Needham
6 Hartington Cottages, Staveley
Again, no longer standing but an old OS map shows them along the bottom end of Eckington Road. Needham lived with his parents in law, his wife, 2 young daughters and 2 of his wife's brothers, both coal hewers like their father.

Tommy Morren
123 Abbeydale Road
I haven't had chance to check this one but I would guess it's still standing. At firt I had some issues with this entry because he gives his occupation as Iron Founder. However, the age and place of birth (Sunderland) are correct and, crucially, his mother Margaret is living with him which allowed me to trace them on previous census records. His father's occupatoin is also given as Iron Founder. I can only speculate as to why he doesn't give his profession as footballer; not widhing to be recognised by the census officer or, more likely, not seeing football as his long term source of income.

Walter Bennett
2 Shelly Street, Mexborough
I can't find any trace of this on Google Maps. Also living at the same address: his parents and 4 siblings. His father's occupation is given as barman and one of his brothers was a billiard marker.

Harry Thickett
66 Urban Road, Hexthorpe, Doncaster
This is an address I came across accidentally recently so I know it exists. We were trying to find the entrance to Hexthorpe Park and overshot, ended up going up Urban Road a couple of times trying to find where we were going. Thickett lived with his wife, his wife's aunt (a retired cow keeper we are told), 4 children and a boarder and fellow United player George Headley.

William Harrison 'Harry' Johnson

Far Lane, Wadsley
I am still a little unsure of this one. It's a common name and, like Morren, the occupation is not given as footballer. He has a son born in 1898 called Harry which fits with our Harry's son, our leading goalscorer of all time. His occupation is given as Gannister Miner. A quick google search shows this to be a form of sandstone much used in lining furnaces. The location is consistent with the part of Sheffield that Johnson came from.

Peter Boyle
19 Alderson Place, Sheffield
Another one handy for the Lane. Irish born Boyle had a Scottish wife

Herbert Lipsham
111 Cemetry Road, Sheffield
Since demolished I would guess roughly where the flats are on the left as you come up the hill. Again Lipsham was a lodger. More difficult to find this one as his name has been incorrectly transcribed as Lipshaw, not an uncommon problem with genealogy sights.

There are still a few more I have failed to locate but I'll keep trying. I hope some of you may find this interesting; perhaps we could lobby the council for some sort of blue plaque scheme. It fascinates me the way people lived over a century ago and the fact that many of them lived so far from the ground (I checked, the season was still in progress when the census was taken). Testament, perhaps, to a decent public transport system at the time.

Do you know what number on Far Lane Harry Johnson lived at? Just a stones throw away from me
 
Unfortunately not. I'm not familiar with the area, if it was semi rural at the time it wasn't uncommon for properties not to be numbered.
There are only around a quarter of the buildings on the road that can be dated back to pre 1901 so the chances of his being still standing are slim
 
Over the last 15 years I have used various sites like Ancestry and Find my Past to trace mine and my wife's family history. At the moment there are no new record sets to search I thought about doing a bit of Blades related research.

We all know our brief golden period was at the turn of the last century. I decided to look at the 1901 census to see how many players involved in the Champion and cup winning sides.

Some of the addresses still exist, some don't and they certainly weren't multi millionaires living in the sort of luxury our current crop of top flight stars have grown accustomed to. On the contrary, they often lived with extended family or lodged with friends or family. Some were easier to locate than others and there are 2 for whom a bit of extra verification data would have been beneficial.

So, here are the ones I have found so far.

William 'Fatty' Foulkes
8 Belgrave Square, Sheffield
this grand sounding address is situated behind the former Earl of Arundel pub a stone's throw from the Lane. Half the square still exist but, unfortunately, Foulkes has made way for the Belgrave Medical Centre. In 1901 he was living there with his wife, 2 sons (one called Redvers), a niece and a boarder.

Ernest Needham
6 Hartington Cottages, Staveley
Again, no longer standing but an old OS map shows them along the bottom end of Eckington Road. Needham lived with his parents in law, his wife, 2 young daughters and 2 of his wife's brothers, both coal hewers like their father.

Tommy Morren
123 Abbeydale Road
I haven't had chance to check this one but I would guess it's still standing. At firt I had some issues with this entry because he gives his occupation as Iron Founder. However, the age and place of birth (Sunderland) are correct and, crucially, his mother Margaret is living with him which allowed me to trace them on previous census records. His father's occupatoin is also given as Iron Founder. I can only speculate as to why he doesn't give his profession as footballer; not widhing to be recognised by the census officer or, more likely, not seeing football as his long term source of income.

Walter Bennett
2 Shelly Street, Mexborough
I can't find any trace of this on Google Maps. Also living at the same address: his parents and 4 siblings. His father's occupation is given as barman and one of his brothers was a billiard marker.

Harry Thickett
66 Urban Road, Hexthorpe, Doncaster
This is an address I came across accidentally recently so I know it exists. We were trying to find the entrance to Hexthorpe Park and overshot, ended up going up Urban Road a couple of times trying to find where we were going. Thickett lived with his wife, his wife's aunt (a retired cow keeper we are told), 4 children and a boarder and fellow United player George Headley.

William Harrison 'Harry' Johnson

Far Lane, Wadsley
I am still a little unsure of this one. It's a common name and, like Morren, the occupation is not given as footballer. He has a son born in 1898 called Harry which fits with our Harry's son, our leading goalscorer of all time. His occupation is given as Gannister Miner. A quick google search shows this to be a form of sandstone much used in lining furnaces. The location is consistent with the part of Sheffield that Johnson came from.

Peter Boyle
19 Alderson Place, Sheffield
Another one handy for the Lane. Irish born Boyle had a Scottish wife

Herbert Lipsham
111 Cemetry Road, Sheffield
Since demolished I would guess roughly where the flats are on the left as you come up the hill. Again Lipsham was a lodger. More difficult to find this one as his name has been incorrectly transcribed as Lipshaw, not an uncommon problem with genealogy sights.

There are still a few more I have failed to locate but I'll keep trying. I hope some of you may find this interesting; perhaps we could lobby the council for some sort of blue plaque scheme. It fascinates me the way people lived over a century ago and the fact that many of them lived so far from the ground (I checked, the season was still in progress when the census was taken). Testament, perhaps, to a decent public transport system at the time.

I enjoyed your post, thanks. Rail services and postal services were more frequent in that era. I have a post card, posted in Doncaster at 11p.m. sent to an address in Sheffield to let them know of a visit they were to make at 11 a.m the following day.
 

Over the last 15 years I have used various sites like Ancestry and Find my Past to trace mine and my wife's family history. At the moment there are no new record sets to search I thought about doing a bit of Blades related research.

We all know our brief golden period was at the turn of the last century. I decided to look at the 1901 census to see how many players involved in the Champion and cup winning sides.

Some of the addresses still exist, some don't and they certainly weren't multi millionaires living in the sort of luxury our current crop of top flight stars have grown accustomed to. On the contrary, they often lived with extended family or lodged with friends or family. Some were easier to locate than others and there are 2 for whom a bit of extra verification data would have been beneficial.

So, here are the ones I have found so far.

William 'Fatty' Foulkes
8 Belgrave Square, Sheffield
this grand sounding address is situated behind the former Earl of Arundel pub a stone's throw from the Lane. Half the square still exist but, unfortunately, Foulkes has made way for the Belgrave Medical Centre. In 1901 he was living there with his wife, 2 sons (one called Redvers), a niece and a boarder.

Ernest Needham
6 Hartington Cottages, Staveley
Again, no longer standing but an old OS map shows them along the bottom end of Eckington Road. Needham lived with his parents in law, his wife, 2 young daughters and 2 of his wife's brothers, both coal hewers like their father.

Tommy Morren
123 Abbeydale Road
I haven't had chance to check this one but I would guess it's still standing. At firt I had some issues with this entry because he gives his occupation as Iron Founder. However, the age and place of birth (Sunderland) are correct and, crucially, his mother Margaret is living with him which allowed me to trace them on previous census records. His father's occupatoin is also given as Iron Founder. I can only speculate as to why he doesn't give his profession as footballer; not widhing to be recognised by the census officer or, more likely, not seeing football as his long term source of income.

Walter Bennett
2 Shelly Street, Mexborough
I can't find any trace of this on Google Maps. Also living at the same address: his parents and 4 siblings. His father's occupation is given as barman and one of his brothers was a billiard marker.

Harry Thickett
66 Urban Road, Hexthorpe, Doncaster
This is an address I came across accidentally recently so I know it exists. We were trying to find the entrance to Hexthorpe Park and overshot, ended up going up Urban Road a couple of times trying to find where we were going. Thickett lived with his wife, his wife's aunt (a retired cow keeper we are told), 4 children and a boarder and fellow United player George Headley.

William Harrison 'Harry' Johnson

Far Lane, Wadsley
I am still a little unsure of this one. It's a common name and, like Morren, the occupation is not given as footballer. He has a son born in 1898 called Harry which fits with our Harry's son, our leading goalscorer of all time. His occupation is given as Gannister Miner. A quick google search shows this to be a form of sandstone much used in lining furnaces. The location is consistent with the part of Sheffield that Johnson came from.

Peter Boyle
19 Alderson Place, Sheffield
Another one handy for the Lane. Irish born Boyle had a Scottish wife

Herbert Lipsham
111 Cemetry Road, Sheffield
Since demolished I would guess roughly where the flats are on the left as you come up the hill. Again Lipsham was a lodger. More difficult to find this one as his name has been incorrectly transcribed as Lipshaw, not an uncommon problem with genealogy sights.

There are still a few more I have failed to locate but I'll keep trying. I hope some of you may find this interesting; perhaps we could lobby the council for some sort of blue plaque scheme. It fascinates me the way people lived over a century ago and the fact that many of them lived so far from the ground (I checked, the season was still in progress when the census was taken). Testament, perhaps, to a decent public transport system at the time.
A great post to help us get by in the close-season. A couple of thoughts/questions. I wonder whether some of the players perhaps worked part-time or in the summer. If you could play county cricket for several months every summer, perhaps others worked at their trades to make money. The census was taken on Sunday March 31st, after a 0-0 draw at Villa (and was immediately followed by semifinal and replay against Villa); it is possible that some of them might have been away from home - we know that not all footballers return to the arms of their loved ones when they are not playing football.
You never know what might turn up in documents like a census. I only found out a few years ago that my mother-in-law's cousin played regularly for S6; I suspect this is sufficient grounds for the annulment of my marriage.
 
A great post to help us get by in the close-season. A couple of thoughts/questions. I wonder whether some of the players perhaps worked part-time or in the summer. If you could play county cricket for several months every summer, perhaps others worked at their trades to make money. The census was taken on Sunday March 31st, after a 0-0 draw at Villa (and was immediately followed by semifinal and replay against Villa); it is possible that some of them might have been away from home - we know that not all footballers return to the arms of their loved ones when they are not playing football.
You never know what might turn up in documents like a census. I only found out a few years ago that my mother-in-law's cousin played regularly for S6; I suspect this is sufficient grounds for the annulment of my marriage.
Of course its sufficient grounds for annulment on disclosure of stains in the family reasons. You will not have to pay costs either. However there is a get out clause as long as any issue (children) have been baptised into the Blades Faith and they promise never to wear a blue and white shirt of any kind !
 
Of course its sufficient grounds for annulment on disclosure of stains in the family reasons. You will not have to pay costs either. However there is a get out clause as long as any issue (children) have been baptised into the Blades Faith and they promise never to wear a blue and white shirt of any kind !
Get-out clause fully implemented - both kids are Blades, and grandkids, who live in Birmingham, also love going to The Lane. Mrs HBT was as surprised as me to learn of the S6 connection.
 
I went to Wisewood school and Grew up round there. Do kids (or childish adults) still stick a T on the end of Far and before lane on the street signs?
Not anymore. They're all too busy hiking the mile and a half to Forge Valley now they've bulldozed Wisewood school
 
What's he done to make you want to break his windows? Typical Blade, always looking for a scapegoat.
It's the deluded lots windows I want to break though for some reason it's been strangely quiet around here the last month
:p
 
A great post to help us get by in the close-season. A couple of thoughts/questions. I wonder whether some of the players perhaps worked part-time or in the summer. If you could play county cricket for several months every summer, perhaps others worked at their trades to make money. The census was taken on Sunday March 31st, after a 0-0 draw at Villa (and was immediately followed by semifinal and replay against Villa); it is possible that some of them might have been away from home - we know that not all footballers return to the arms of their loved ones when they are not playing football.
You never know what might turn up in documents like a census. I only found out a few years ago that my mother-in-law's cousin played regularly for S6; I suspect this is sufficient grounds for the annulment of my marriage.


It's difficult to get one's head round the fact that, in 1901, the Blades had only been in existence for 12 years.
No cars in those days, so players would have probably used the tram to get to and from home games. For away games it was normal to go by train, certainly well into the 1950s. The building of Motorways changed all that.
My wife had a cousin who played in goal for Grimsby Town. After he retired he worked in horticulture. She also had another cousin who was a mechanic for Team Lotus, and who was in the pit crew at the Indianapolis 500; he then settled in the States. Both cousins are sadly no longer with us. All my own relatives seem to have led boring lives, though there's probably a few skeletons lurking in cupboards.
 
I once chatted with a 90 yr old who used to play for his village team, sometimes they had to cycle 10 miles there & back when playing away. I have also traced my family tree & have a few Needhams in it, coalminers living in the Woodhouse area & married at Handsworth church, maybe I'm related to a Blades player of old


A ' rum ' lot them needhams from Woodhouse. Mainly pig's aswell if memory serves me right .
 
With Sheffield United playing Tottenham Hotspur this weekend, here's a photo taken inside the Crystal Palace grounds on Cup Final day 20th April 1901, Sheffield United and Spurs played out a entertaining and controversial 2-2 draw in front of 114 000 spectators, Spurs won the replay a week later at Bolton's Burnden Park ground

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With Sheffield United playing Tottenham Hotspur this weekend, here's a photo taken inside the Crystal Palace grounds on Cup Final day 20th April 1901, Sheffield United and Spurs played out a entertaining and controversial 2-2 draw in front of 114 000 spectators, Spurs won the replay a week later at Bolton's Burnden Park ground

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Check out all the 'top boys' in their three-piece suits and bowler hats.
 
With Sheffield United playing Tottenham Hotspur this weekend, here's a photo taken inside the Crystal Palace grounds on Cup Final day 20th April 1901, Sheffield United and Spurs played out a entertaining and controversial 2-2 draw in front of 114 000 spectators, Spurs won the replay a week later at Bolton's Burnden Park ground

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Wonder how much the locals charged per man to sit on their roof?

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I believe that is the biggest crowd United have ever played in front of live. Obviously Wednesday beat that miserly record of 114,000 every other week.

We would have beaten it handsomely if we had we got past Bolton (the eventual winners) at Old Trafford (72,000 crowd) in the semi final (we lost 1-0). The final between Bolton and West Ham was the famous white horse (Billy) final where there was apparently up to 300,000 in attendance (official crowd 125k).
 

With Sheffield United playing Tottenham Hotspur this weekend, here's a photo taken inside the Crystal Palace grounds on Cup Final day 20th April 1901, Sheffield United and Spurs played out a entertaining and controversial 2-2 draw in front of 114 000 spectators, Spurs won the replay a week later at Bolton's Burnden Park ground

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Wonder how much the locals charged per man to sit on their roof?

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I believe that is the biggest crowd United have ever played in front of live. Obviously Wednesday beat that miserly record of 114,000 every other week.

We would have beaten it handsomely if we had we got past Bolton (the eventual winners) at Old Trafford (72,000 crowd) in the semi final (we lost 1-0). The final between Bolton and West Ham was the famous white horse (Billy) final where there was apparently up to 300,000 in attendance (official crowd 125k).

I believe it was also the world's first 100k+ attendance for a football match.
 

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