16/09/08 - Coventry City Match Thread

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MOTM v. Coventry

  • Paddy Kenny

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Greg Halford

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Gary Naysmith

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • David Cotterill

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Chris Morgan

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Matt Kilgallon

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • James Beattie

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Danny Webber

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Sun Jihai

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Gary Speed

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Nick Montgomery

    Votes: 13 56.5%
  • Keith Gillespie

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Billy Sharp

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Stephen Quinn

    Votes: 1 4.3%

  • Total voters
    23
  • Poll closed .
It was a beautiful challenge, took the ball and the man just fell over ;) From my view on the Kop it looked like he'd won the ball even though he'd gone in hard. Haven't seen a replay yet, but I like the way I saw it. He gets the MOM in my opinion because he gave the team the kick up the arse that they needed.

I want to know what people have against Monty so much. He did a brilliant job for us today. People don't realise how far he runs and still has the energy to go and track his man when the ball goes out of play. So what if he misplaces a pass? No midfielder in the world will ever complete every pass he makes. Ok he's not the most technically gifted player ever to grace the pitch but he tries his best and when was that not enough for people?
 

.....infer ......

I'm sorry, I know there was another thread for this, but the word is 'imply', NOT BLOODY infer. You have no idea how much the misuse of the verb 'to infer' annoys me.

You can take an inference; you can give an implication. To infer is intransitive; to imply is transitive.

You cannot infer something to someone; you cannot imply something from someone.

It's the other way around.

I think I advocated stringing people up with piano wire for getting these verbs mixed up.
 
What a load of Rubbish Just what Blackwell was Thinking using Monty as an Attacking midfielder deary me what a Joke having said that i thought Monty & cotts where the best of a bad bunch tonight.
 
MOTM Monty for me, I too don't understand what people have against him.

We were very poor in the first half, playing route one again and getting outpassed by a very poor Coventry side.

Turning point from our point of view was the sending off. You will always get this from Far East players for some reason, they do lunge a lot. Just watch the World Cup. This is the risk you take playing them. He has played really well this season but I thought he had an off-night from the first minute last night.

Couldn't see why Blackie brought Halford on, we seemed to be coping pretty well with Monty at RB.

Great finish from Billy, smart ball in (the kind of ball we need to be playing into him not high balls in, been saying that for ages. Play them balls in, he will get you 20+ a season).

Monty won tackles galore in the second half and distributed well. Short passes admittedly but he is in the team to get in amongst them, break their moves up and distribute to someone who can play a decent ball. Problem is, that's Speed and at the minute he looks very ordinary.
 
I want to know what people have against Monty so much.

What a load of Rubbish Just what Blackwell was Thinking using Monty as an Attacking midfielder deary me what a Joke having said that i thought Monty & cotts where the best of a bad bunch tonight.

MOTM Monty for me, I too don't understand what people have against him.

Monty was subjected to some right sarcastic comments from around where I was sitting last night... my response: why pick on Monty?

When we were chasing the game and down to 10 men, he's the kind of player you need on... someone who'll get in amongst people and looking for scraps. I don't think he can play comfortably alongside Speed though (who just wasn't in the game yesterday) because they are too similar a style of player. I can only assume that Hendrie still isn't fully fit because yesterday would have been a perfect game for him.

Cotterill, I'm undecided on. While his pace is an asset down that flank... he does tend to go missing a lot during the game. And yesterday, when he beat Daniel Fox before putting his foot on the ball and then has to beat him again only frustrates. In my eyes, he's a luxury player when we've got a team that's playing well... not one to be on the pitch when we're trying to grind out a result. Halford was able to overlap and his long throws added an extra opportunity to get an opening.

I think Beattie also deserves a mention in what must have been a bloody frustrating night for him. If he'd have been in a sky blue shirt, he'd have won all sorts of free kicks and he was tireless in jumping for the ball. One player in the early stages who was actually putting some effort in.

As for the sending off... I'd have initially said no but I'm yet to see it again close up. The referee nearly spaffed his pants because he could get a red card out though. It prompted quite a lengthy discussion between Dean Riddle and Kyle Naughton though... here's your chance son?

Not good... could have been a damned sight worse and I absolutely hate going to Norwich.
 
I'm sorry, I know there was another thread for this, but the word is 'imply', NOT BLOODY infer. You have no idea how much the misuse of the verb 'to infer' annoys me.

You can take an inference; you can give an implication. To infer is intransitive; to imply is transitive.

You cannot infer something to someone; you cannot imply something from someone.

It's the other way around.

I think I advocated stringing people up with piano wire for getting these verbs mixed up.

You are indeed correct :)

My only excuse is that I was tired & had just had the delight of the match :)
 
Well, what more can be said.....

Fines should be given out to SQuinn and Sun Jihai for their awful behaviour. I can accept clumsyness (like the penalty), but when it is getting a booking for a needless rasiing of arms at a player, and a poor poor "challenge" then it needs to be addressed.

That said, I thought Squinny didn't do too badly, and along with him and Monty they wanted to get the ball forward and do something.

MOTM for me was Monty, he looked knackered after about 60 minutes, but he got a second wind and carried it forward.

Sharp did nothing all game except for his goal (which I may add he took very well). Some people will say if he does that then it will be fine, but I disagree, we expect more from our strikers.

Beattie had a quietish game, however he was winning balls only for nobody to be chasing them up.

I think there was something wrong with Morgan too, we managed to have a corner at the end where he didn't give away a free kick.

Poor performance against a not very good side.

Our blushes were spared by a poor Leon Best too.
 
I'm sorry, I know there was another thread for this, but the word is 'imply', NOT BLOODY infer. You have no idea how much the misuse of the verb 'to infer' annoys me.

You can take an inference; you can give an implication. To infer is intransitive; to imply is transitive.

You cannot infer something to someone; you cannot imply something from someone.

It's the other way around.

I think I advocated stringing people up with piano wire for getting these verbs mixed up.


The inference from this is the implication that HH is a GrammarBeast!! Beware you slack-fingered fiends, retribution is nigh!!! :D
 
Hardly the match that we were promised after the result on saturday. The first half was a very dire performance, with no structure, no shape and seemed completely devoud of any ideas at all. The second half started much the same until the red card. Didnt have a good view of it, but knowing mifsud thought that it may have been harsh. after seeing the replay he was going to walk with any referee in the country, simply because of the way he "committed" himself, and i use that word in the alternative sense. I thought that the red card was a blessing in disguise really. Upto that point we were never going to get anything out of the match. After then it seemed to put a rocket up our arse and made us think about it. They seemed to be committed, and the work rate increased. All in all from that point alone we deserved a point.

Monty was subjected to some right sarcastic comments from around where I was sitting last night... my response: why pick on Monty?

When we were chasing the game and down to 10 men, he's the kind of player you need on... someone who'll get in amongst people and looking for scraps. I don't think he can play comfortably alongside Speed though (who just wasn't in the game yesterday) because they are too similar a style of player. I can only assume that Hendrie still isn't fully fit because yesterday would have been a perfect game for him.

Monty was my man of the match, he didnt have a particularly good first half, but then noone did. The whole team must have been subject to a severe bollocking at half time. And if not then they should have been. I had a couple of quite colourful "conversations" with people around me about the very subject you mention above. This was sparked by slurs of "you dont know what your doing blackwell" and "why the f**k has he taken cotts off for halford and left that wanker on the pitch". This made my blood boil literally. So i felt the need to then provide them with a lesson in footballing, by initially taking of their blades tinted specs. We needed halford on the pitch to control mifsud, monty did his best immediately after the sending off, but im sure he would agree he hasnt got pace in abundance. Cotterill although he had a good game and is great in getting forward (and can only improve) isnt so good at getting back. Monty chased the ball down and kept chasing and made some space, and allowed speed to move around a little. All in all he did what we needed him to do and for that i thank him. Anyone wants to disagree, i'll see you in the playground after school at 3:15, we can sort it out then ;)

I think Beattie also deserves a mention in what must have been a bloody frustrating night for him. If he'd have been in a sky blue shirt, he'd have won all sorts of free kicks and he was tireless in jumping for the ball. One player in the early stages who was actually putting some effort in.

This im afraid i cant wholely agree with. In my opinion (again its my opinion, not yours, or your friends its MINE so if you dont like it, see the above comment :D) i think the majority of the frustration you mention was simply due to his apparent lack of any controling touch, being beaten in the air pretty much all the match, and simply his lack of presence. He was far from the player of last season, and in my opinion (again MINE) isnt ready for the first team. I dont expect him to win every ball that punted up for him to flick on, especially when the two centre backs are as tall as they were, and hats off to him for keeping trying, but his timing, touch, control and passing were all over the place. I just dont hink he's ready.

All in all it wasnt a good match, from either the playing point of view, nor the officials point of view. The ref hadnt got a clue, and the linesman (sorry assisstant referee) on the near side couldnt keep up with play, hence so many offside calls not being given. Very very very infuriating that yet another mid week game is to be officiated by such a low class of official.

Just as a side point does anyone have a clue what happened to blackwell? Saw him on SSN with a black eye and what looked like stitches.

that is all for now.............................
 
What makes Sharp bareable for me is that he generally chases all over for everything, there seemed to be none of that yesterday.
Same again. I think that's rubbish.

Sharp was on top form last night. Held it up beautifully, on the floor, laid it off to a United shirt pretty much every time. Covered a hell of a lot of ground too, ran the wings a few times, drew a couple of fouls and won free kicks, then bagged a goal. What more do you want from him?
 

To be a good striker.

What are we basing it on?

He's only scored 1 less than Rob Earnshaw this season, having played in less games :D
 
I didn't think Sharp was that bad to be fair. For a small lad he can't half hold it up and wait for others to bring into play. But is partner Beattie was poor and not a bad word. Monty was excellent and he never got acknowledged but he misplayed a pass and everyone groaned. Like Mousey said he isn't the most technically gifted player but no one works harder than he does.

To be honest though, given their chances and advantage in numbers, a draw was a respectful result. Wasn't the greatest performance no but we still got a point. Sun Jihai, now why on earth did he go in like that. Luckily for Mifsud he didn't take the full challenge or he could have been badly injured. But for people to clap him off was plain stupid just like his tackle. But no claps for Monty.

I think we will win Saturday, just wish I was going.
 
For me sharp is offside far too much its winds me up so much! From things such as corners and attacking freekicks i know that defenders and midfielders have to get back quicker, but why on earth can strikers (not just sharp) run back up with the opposition defenders. When they dont and we gain possesion it doesn't give us any outlet as their all offside and in my opinion this happens alot in our games
 
The sending off,

Watching it at the game, it didn't look a sending off and after watching it and going in slow motion, still not a sending off.

He won the ball before he took the man. His outstretched leg pokes the ball away before his trailing leg taking him down. The coventry player hasn't even got the ball under control so its a fair challenge.

I had made plenty of tackles like them before, nothing wrong with it.

Halfords the other week was worse as he lifted off the floor and lunged at him double footed. After this tackle, people were saying about it turning into a puffs game with not allowing contact. SJH was a beauty of a challenge, i would be proud of it.
 
It certainly wasn't the best game in the world, and I half think we were lucky to get a point - we'd have been amazingly lucky if we'd have got 3pts!

If you'd have moved the goalposts a mile to the right they still wouldn't have scored!!!

Sunny J tackle did look bad from South Stand.. and he knew as soon as he'd done it that it wasn't good.
 
It certainly wasn't the best game in the world, and I half think we were lucky to get a point - we'd have been amazingly lucky if we'd have got 3pts!

If you'd have moved the goalposts a mile to the right they still wouldn't have scored!!!

Sunny J tackle did look bad from South Stand.. and he knew as soon as he'd done it that it wasn't good.

Doesn't say much for his antics afterwards then, if he knew it was bad. Even though I thought he got the ball, I'd fine him for the hissy fit along the touchline, and then coming back onto the field.
 
Doesn't say much for his antics afterwards then, if he knew it was bad. Even though I thought he got the ball, I'd fine him for the hissy fit along the touchline, and then coming back onto the field.

oh no, agreed. his attitude towards it was bad - accept your fate & leave the field of play. You could tell he knew though
 
When he walked off the pitch first time near faimly stand why didnt he stay off that way and not walk all the way across the pitch and waste abit more time
 

For me sharp is offside far too much its winds me up so much!

Sharp I can forgive a little... he lacks a great deal of blistering pace and so has to play on the defender's shoulders - sometimes he strays a little bit further forward.

Someone who does wind me up for offsides is Danny Webber. He's got no need to be offside or anywhere near the defenders when getting the ball because he has the speed to beat them. If he dropped back a yard or two, I think he'd create far more chances for himself.
 

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