15 points from last 15 league games ...

[Barney]

You are really fond of this argument regarding learning. So to paraphrase you: If, for the sake of the argument, we have a collection of cripples and losers accumulated by previous regimes that all lasted ten minutes. A look back tells us that we sacked each of, say Big Sam, Pardew and Pulis, all after 12-18 months while gradually getting worse by never replacing good players with players of an equal standard. A look at the now also tells us that able-bodied footballers tend to outrun fat, self-content crocks.

In the summer we brought in a supposedly higher class manager in Ranieri but you hate his iffy Italian accent and foolhardy interview style from day one... Plus he got lucky at Chelsea!

In November, "learning" to you means "bin Ranieri" as he continued the policy of replacing dross with bigger dross in line with the ongoing four-year policy and based on five pour signings and a failure to raise the rag-tag bunch left by the previous rabble rousers beyond uninspiring mid-table?

To me learning is to accept that

- maybe none of Big Sam, Pardew and Pulis needed hanging that quickly.
- Ranieri maybe a buffoon of an even or worse standard, but the sample we got and the situation he operates in is not of his own making so it is difficult to tell for sure and
- the way our example club is run makes it almost impossible for any manager to succeed.

As I said in the shoutbox in anger today: We are like Bayern Munich. The only two clubs in Europe that could be coached by a chimp and very little would change...

I haven't given a single thought to Leicester, Sunderland, Palace, West Brom, or whoever else you so strangely refer to, and nor do I want to.

This non-argument of yours also seems to imply Adkins will turn it around. In that case, I'll leave you with an unwilling, but unbelievably smug "we'll see about that".

 

[SwissBlade]

But who would come (that can do the job) based on our track record of sacking managers ? You cannot ignore the fact that we've had more managers than the Italian's have had presidents this century as it will impact on whether sacking the manager would clear the way for someone who can do the job better. So who would want to come - shit squad, fickle board, irate fans. Can't see it myself. We have made our bed and will have to lay on it for now.

As TrueBlade says, were still an attractive club. Managers have egos and if the lad from barca player (can't remember his name) pays attention to the fact that we get 20,000 fans in the third then you can be sure that managers in England do as well!

Most will look at a 3 year contract, sacked after one, negotiate paid for two!

 

[ChrisBlade]

I haven't given a single thought to Leicester, Sunderland, Palace, West Brom, or whoever else you so strangely refer to, and nor do I want to.

This non-argument of yours also seems to imply Adkins will turn it around. In that case, I'll leave you with an unwilling, but unbelievably smug "we'll see about that".

Nice one, Barny. If you haven't got the mental agility to spar in parables and take my example as an obscure reference to five other clubs, suit your self. You either are or are playing dim. In both cases, I shall devote my further time to more worthy causes.

Thank you, my dear.

 

[robbiez666]

As TrueBlade says, were still an attractive club. Managers have egos and if the lad from barca player (can't remember his name) pays attention to the fact that we get 20,000 fans in the third then you can be sure that managers in England do as well!

Most will look at a 3 year contract, sacked after one, negotiate paid for two!

we're so attractive that when Clough was appointed we were all relieved that it was none of the other contenders. We're not an attractive prospect.

 

[blade.i.am]

McCabe thinks the squad is too big, therefore, no recruitment in January unless we sell. Can't see them queuing up to sign our cast offs.
Let's make sure we are still in League 1 next year, use this season to blood some of the young players then have a proper clear out in the summer and rebuild from there.

 

[Large Mendonca]

Players seem to do ok when they leave us - we just need a compilation video of Higdon and McNulty's goals since going on loan and they'll come flocking for our misfits

 

[alcoblade]

McCabe thinks the squad is too big, therefore, no recruitment in January unless we sell. Can't see them queuing up to sign our cast offs.
Let's make sure we are still in League 1 next year, use this season to blood some of the young players then have a proper clear out in the summer and rebuild from there.

I think blooding the youngsters could both get us relegated and finish their careers. I'm a huge critic of the quality of our team, but I've seen nothing to suggest the answer is from within the squad.

UTB

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

Good thing is that there's some shit below us.

There was a lot of shit below us in '81, and in true United style it took us until the last 5 minutes of that season to finish below 20 of um!

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All those that are saying there's no way we'll be in a relegation fight want to consider it was the 4 wins in August that was out of character for this team. This lot are in a false position, take out those 4 wins for a truer reflection of where we should be in the table.

 

[blade.i.am]

I think blooding the youngsters could both get us relegated and finish their careers. I'm a huge critic of the quality of our team, but I've seen nothing to suggest the answer is from within the squad.

UTB

Not suggesting we bring them in wholesale. Half an hour here and there as part of their development. Seem to remember us bringing a few in against Rotherham a couple of seasons ago and won.

 

[alcoblade]

Not suggesting we bring them in wholesale. Half an hour here and there as part of their development. Seem to remember us bringing a few in against Rotherham a couple of seasons ago and won.

True, but as they can barely make our shit 3rd division bench now, it also seems that they aren't actually very good, sadly.

UTB

 

[Revolution]

I think it'd be very stupid to recruit in January. We'd still struggle to get even anywhere near the play-offs no matter how many we brought in, and to do that you'd have to offload a considerable amount anyway with the unbelievable size of the squad.

If that meant going down (very likely), then so be it. It might actually be a good thing for the long term for a variety of reasons.

1 - It might force McCabe to sell.
2 - Adkins might be sacked
3 - Adkins might resign
4 - A whole new squad will be built, under a new board and a new manager.

People said this when Micky Adams took us into league one.

How did that go?