13/04/09 - Nottingham Forest Match Thread

[Foxy]

I also don't know how they had the cheek to sing 'you dirty northern bastards' at us.

They sung it to Brian Howard too, just as Reading did.

I'm not quite sure how they work out Winchester is northern though

 

[Greasy Chip Butty]

It sounded like Forest were singing dirty yorkshire bastards to me

 

[happyhippy]

Scum? I don't know how they have the cheek.

I also don't know how they had the cheek to sing 'you dirty northern bastards' at us.

On a lighter note, I like how Torquay fans chant that to Exeter fans

 

[Autumn]

Scum? I don't know how they have the cheek.

I also don't know how they had the cheek to sing 'you dirty northern bastards' at us.

lol it was from united fans....i didn't go and they reckon im a lucky charm

 

[forestfan]

I was at the game yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed my afternoon in Sheffield, thanks!

We had written the game off to be honest - you lot flying high while we're struggling. Hence the reception at the end. A bonus point in our fight for survival, for sure.

I thought that up until the sending off it was pretty even. Wilson was stupid but Halfords reaction was embarrassing!

For much of the season we have been so naive so it was fantastic to see Davies' influence.. we did waste time and kill the game - we were positively Warnock-esque and we loved it. Not pretty I know but needs must.
We can play good football (ask Bristol City!) but down to 10 men for most of the game we did what was needed.

I thought you would show more to be honest, for all the possession you did not really create many clear-cut chances.

 

[beightonblade]

I was at the game yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed my afternoon in Sheffield, thanks!

We had written the game off to be honest - you lot flying high while we're struggling. Hence the reception at the end. A bonus point in our fight for survival, for sure.

I thought that up until the sending off it was pretty even. Wilson was stupid but Halfords reaction was embarrassing!

For much of the season we have been so naive so it was fantastic to see Davies' influence.. we did waste time and kill the game - we were positively Warnock-esque and we loved it. Not pretty I know but needs must.
We can play good football (ask Bristol City!) but down to 10 men for most of the game we did what was needed.

I thought you would show more to be honest, for all the possession you did not really create many clear-cut chances.

Thank you for that............i agree 100%.
Hope you post again, you talk sense.

You aint a scab are you?

 

[forestfan]

Thank you for that............i agree 100%.
Hope you post again, you talk sense.

You aint a scab are you?

Cheers.

Isn't everyone from Nottingham a scab?

Oh and the song was 'Yorkshire' not 'Northern'. Had to laugh at Paddy giving us a sly 'wa**ker' sign at the end too. Fair play - he was the butt of plenty of chants during the 2nd half.

 

[Linz]

Oh and the song was 'Yorkshire' not 'Northern'. Had to laugh at Paddy giving us a sly 'wa**ker' sign at the end too. Fair play - he was the butt of plenty of chants during the 2nd half.

Oh aye... if you dish it out, you've got to take it back

Cardiff fans were baying for blood when Paddy took piss out of them.

Monday could have mattered more for us had Brum won, but I think I'd have preferred to have dropped points in this match than Burnley, Swansea and Palace. Hopefully it's given us a boot up the arse to finish the season putting 100% in.

And as for Halford... he's a delicate flower

 

[shorehamview]

You aint a scab are you?

Isn't everyone from Nottingham a scab?

Does anybody find it more that a little strange that a lot of people either chanting "scab" or being chanted at weren't born during the miners strike?
Half of the young twerps on our Kop wouldn't have any idea why they were chanting it, and I strongly suspect that the majority of the crowd weren't coal miners at any point during their lives.

 

[TonyAgana]

Does anybody find it more that a little strange that a lot of people either chanting "scab" or being chanted at weren't born during the miners strike?
Half of the young twerps on our Kop wouldn't have any idea why they were chanting it, and I strongly suspect that the majority of the crowd weren't coal miners at any point during their lives.

I often hear certain fans sounding rather bitter about the youngsters using the term and I do think why get so uptight about it? The impact that the strikes had on communities is still felt to the present day and I'd confidently say that an overwhelming majority of fans are still affected in some way, however minor D), by the systematic dismantling of the unions. It's not as though we storm the streets of Nottingham smashing windows and stringing up scabs, it's just another piece of ammo that fans use as banter.

 

[MAQ]

Does anybody find it more that a little strange that a lot of people either chanting "scab" or being chanted at weren't born during the miners strike?
Half of the young twerps on our Kop wouldn't have any idea why they were chanting it, and I strongly suspect that the majority of the crowd weren't coal miners at any point during their lives.

On this very subject, i would appreciate an explanation to the term. Call me naive, but i noticed that "Scab" was being shouted alot around me, which firstly surprised me due to my location for this match (Directors Enclosure) but mainly due to the average age of the people shouting it. It didnt realy register until i have read your post. My only memory of the strikes was what a child sees on the TV coverage, so didnt understand it and didnt pay much attention apart from the usual questions such as why is that horse standing on that man etc.

Anyway, an explanation would be nice, although i may have an idea where this could be going. (Sorry for being off topic)

 

[Robbie]

Does anybody find it more that a little strange that a lot of people either chanting "scab" or being chanted at weren't born during the miners strike?
Half of the young twerps on our Kop wouldn't have any idea why they were chanting it, and I strongly suspect that the majority of the crowd weren't coal miners at any point during their lives.

Your point being sir?

Should we not sing about Currie?
Or the year being 1889?

 

[Linz]

Anyway, an explanation would be nice, although i may have an idea where this could be going. (Sorry for being off topic)

A significant proportion of Nottinghamshire miners broke the strike and went back to work, much to the bitter disagreement of a number of Yorkshire miners, who despite their hardship, were willing to carry on striking.

 

[matth]

Your point being sir?

Should we not sing about Currie?
Or the year being 1889?

Good point. And how many of the fans who sing 'Hark now hear' can actually remember the Boxing Day Massacre?

 

[Robbie]

Good point. And how many of the fans who sing 'Hark now hear' can actually remember the Boxing Day Massacre?

OR to take it to an extreme, perhaps we shouldn't support United as we weren't about when they were founded?

 

[MAQ]

A significant proportion of Nottinghamshire miners broke the strike and went back to work, much to the bitter disagreement of a number of Yorkshire miners, who despite their hardship, were willing to carry on striking.

thought as much, but just wanted the confirmation.

Cheers

 

[Linz]

Your point being sir?

Should we not sing about Currie?
Or the year being 1889?

Good point. And how many of the fans who sing 'Hark now hear' can actually remember the Boxing Day Massacre?

OR to take it to an extreme, perhaps we shouldn't support United as we weren't about when they were founded?

I think the point being made is that we know why all those things are chanted/sung, but how many of the people shouting "scab" are au fait as to why?

 

[Robbie]

I think the point being made is that we know why all those things are chanted/sung, but how many of the people shouting "scab" are au fait as to why?

To fit in maybe?

Passed down from parents?

Do we know why we call owls pigs?

Or perhaps they know why they're called scabs and understand it all?

I just don't see why anyone would be slightly bothered by it at all.

 

[matth]

I don't know how many of the people who were singing it know why they were, but I would hazard a guess that no one else does either, and that this is one of those 'conjecture' things

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

scab (plural scabs)

An incrustation over a sore, wound, vesicle, or pustule, formed during healing.

(colloquial or obsolete) The scabies.

The mange, especially when it appears on sheep.
1882: Scab was the terror of the sheep farmer, and the peril of his calling. — James Edwin Thorold Rogers, A History of Agriculture and Prices in England, Volume 4, p. 306.

Several different diseases of potatoes producing pits and other damage on their surface, caused by Streptomyces -bacteria.

Short form for common scab, a relatively harmless variety of scab caused by Streptomyces scabies.

(founding) A slight irregular protuberance which defaces the surface of a casting, caused by the breaking away of a part of the mold.

A mean, dirty, paltry fellow.

(slang) A worker who acts against trade union policies, especially a strikebreaker.

(botany) Any one of various more or less destructive fungus diseases attacking cultivated plants, and forming dark-colored crustlike spots.

Synonyms
(strikebreaker): blackleg, knobstick

Seems the word comes from the Old Norse, so was probably first used in Yorkshire as derogatory term. Comes full circle

Old English sceabb, Old Norse skabb, Latin scabies "scab, itch, mange." Cognate with Old English scafan, Latin scabere "to scratch"

 

[forestfan]

it's just another piece of ammo that fans use as banter.

Thats how most of us see it too. We get it whenever we play teams from Yorkshire or the North-East. Stock response is the old 'sign on' which, IMO should only be exclusively reserved for the scouce!

Strangely, Barnsley are worst and its often an excuse for trouble. Didn't hear it the other week though - we took 4000 and drowned them out totally!:thumbup:

I can't believe Cardiff fans whinged...pathetic.

 

[happyhippy]

Dingleland will be worst though; it's where the strike started.

 

[forestfan]

Dingleland will be worst though; it's where the strike started.

Ok didn't know that. Thanks.

 

[beightonblade]

Does anybody find it more that a little strange that a lot of people either chanting "scab" or being chanted at weren't born during the miners strike?
Half of the young twerps on our Kop wouldn't have any idea why they were chanting it, and I strongly suspect that the majority of the crowd weren't coal miners at any point during their lives.

True.
BB was a miner from a mining family going back generations. Working in the mines was no tea party the dangers were all around, you had to rely on fellow miners for your safety. The 'real' miners were the salt of the earth, what was there's was yours it was share and share alike.
The comrardery was second to none after all we were each watching one anothers backs and depending on one another.
To many politics to go into here but as far as mining goes Arthur Scargill was reight,.... often mis quoted and misrepresented by the government propoganda machines and media alike. In my book a true hero and friend for life.
Scabs ......me i hate em.

 

[shorehamview]

Your point being sir?

Should we not sing about Currie?
Or the year being 1889?

I'd suspect that the majority of United fans old enough to read would know the significance of 1889 and Tony Currie, but as the miners strike isn't a huge part of this club's history in the way that the Boxing Day Massacre is, or us hating Wednesday, I merely wondered whether or not younger Blades would know why Forest get "scab" chanted at them.

OR to take it to an extreme, perhaps we shouldn't support United as we weren't about when they were founded?

Take it to an extreme, don't breathe as you weren't around when oxygen was invented.

I just don't see why anyone would be slightly bothered by it at all.

I wasn't bothered by it, and I certainly won't lose sleep over it, I just wondered about it.

 

[Robbie]

I wasn't bothered by it, and I certainly won't lose sleep over it, I just wondered about it.

If you weren't bothered you wouldn't have mentioned it baby hehe

Anyways.. on topic.

Referee was a fucking joke on Monday

 

[shorehamview]

If you weren't bothered you wouldn't have mentioned it baby hehe

Anyways.. on topic.

Referee was a fucking joke on Monday

Anyway, off topic...

How do you know what bothers me and what doesn't? I wondered whether the younger element of the crowd, both sides, knew the meaning behind the word "scab". For you to say I was bothered by it would imply that by some strange psychic power you know what other people think.

 

[keenzy]

Anyway, off topic...

How do you know what bothers me and what doesn't? I wondered whether the younger element of the crowd, both sides, knew the meaning behind the word "scab". For you to say I was bothered by it would imply that by some strange psychic power you know what other people think.

I knew what a scab was

 

[matth]

I know what a crab is. And Andy McNabb.

 

[TonyAgana]

I know what a crab is. And Andy McNabb.

Flab. I see that everytime I sit down with my shirt off.