…and breathe

[Keen Blade]

Going to be interesting to see how the new signings are fitted in given the questions it raises

Can you still carry a non attacking right back if Souza and Choudhury are the CMs?

How will the ball be progressed from back to front with 2 CMs who are both 'safe' passers and a LCB who's extremely suspect on the ball?

Does Cannon start even though he and Campbell make very similar runs in behind but Campbell is a much better all round footballer?

Can you fit Hamer, O'Hare, BBD, Cannon, JRS and Campbell into the same team?

Excellent questions to which I fear CW has no answer , looking at the way we've attacked all season.
Another might be
" If , during a game , we're not looking cohesive in attack , let alone fluid , does the manager ever think he should change shape or swap wingers over or do something other than just chuck subs on but keep playing the same way ?"

 

[Carlton Blade]

Excellent questions to which I fear CW has no answer , looking at the way we've attacked all season.
Another might be
" If , during a game , we're not looking cohesive in attack , let alone fluid , does the manager ever think he should change shape or swap wingers over or do something other than just chuck subs on but keep playing the same way ?"

Wilder has always preferred his teams to be quite formulaic. Even at it's best, the 2016-2020 team attacked in very specific ways. I'm just not sure thst fits this group of players.

For as good as an overall job as he's done, I'm not sure, outside of O'Hare being a bigger threat we are any better at attacking now than we were in August. A huge % of the plan is "Gus, you sort it". I was hoping we'd be a little further along.

 

[petcharlie]

That’s no reason to give up on punctuation.

of course it is not my punctuation is far more important . you ff toss--

 

[petcharlie]

Please take your rose tinted off. Promotion seeking sides should be consistent and hard to beat. I remind you we have lost four games to our 'cohorts' and won one, one fucking game against Sunderland and we only just managed that! Bloody hell if we cant do better god help us if we get promoted 'cos we wont be bringing in £300m worth of talent if we did. We have a poor GD by comparison and getting worse by the week. Soon we will be the worst of the top four.

The slide started away at Coventry IMHO (Souttar's knackering flight schedule and he looked bollocks in that game too) and since then have been average at best but lost three matches, two to our promotion seeking rivals.

If no CB is recruited in the next week I give you the 'Return of the Play Off Nightmare' as the sequel coming down the track. For unless Burnley and Leeds suffer a Hezbollah moment they'll be off and promoted with weeks to spare.

So you have told it like it is i would agree with most of it .Yes Souttars game after his ball aching flight from Oz was not great and everyone knows we do need a centre back including the manager ,I am also sure he along with the recruiting team are trying his best to bring one in but we must understand that is easier said than done in the January window . We must also understand he has got us to the top of the league having rebuilt the team with very little money and most of us expected a mid table position . He has delivered more than we could imagine with very limited backing and little money until now . He now has the backing with the new owners so lets see what he does before talking about having to replace him . If we end up in the play offs that is still better than we expected at the start of the season .Our team looked good but our squad was small and with the injuries we have had we have done great to be in the position we find our selves in .We have won more games than anyone else in the Championship and we have had 2 points taken away .Can not understand why some on here are flapping and wetting the bed .

 

[petcharlie]

No, it's long overdue we dissect the style of play and things like set pieces. It's the perfect time for self reflection.

Weren't you yesterday taking the piss out of us trying to cross the ball to O'Hare in order to score goals? (Spoiler, you were)

What the fuck have Luton got to do with owt? We also came down with Burnley

yes we came down with Burnley and we are above them in second place after having 2 points taken away .

 

[Sydney Blade]

of course it is not my punctuation is far more important . you ff toss--

I apologise petcharlie… judging by your (and another’s) comment then this didn’t land as intended. I was building on the fact that you’d made light of your own (extremely sad) predicament and how grammar (as brought up by another poster initially) probably wasn’t high on the everyday/expected list of concerns.

Once again, I’m sorry for any slight and every luck and best wish with you!! Seriously!

 

[petcharlie]

I apologise petcharlie… judging by your (and another’s) comment then this didn’t land as intended. I was building on the fact that you’d made light of your own (extremely sad) predicament and how grammar (as brought up by another poster initially) probably wasn’t high on the everyday/expected list of concerns.

Once again, I’m sorry for any slight and every luck and best wish with you!! Seriously!

Well thank you I admire your honesty .(friends again) I to went over the top a bit . No harm done .When told by the hospital you only have 12 to 18 months to go and there is nothing they can do really ,football results become trivial and you get all your priorities in a more sensible list .

 

[The Bear]

So you have told it like it is i would agree with most of it .Yes Souttars game after his ball aching flight from Oz was not great and everyone knows we do need a centre back including the manager ,I am also sure he along with the recruiting team are trying his best to bring one in but we must understand that is easier said than done in the January window . We must also understand he has got us to the top of the league having rebuilt the team with very little money and most of us expected a mid table position . He has delivered more than we could imagine with very limited backing and little money until now . He now has the backing with the new owners so lets see what he does before talking about having to replace him . If we end up in the play offs that is still better than we expected at the start of the season .Our team looked good but our squad was small and with the injuries we have had we have done great to be in the position we find our selves in .We have won more games than anyone else in the Championship and we have had 2 points taken away .Can not understand why some on here are flapping and wetting the bed .

I havent suggested CW be replaced and am not at the moment suffering from urinary incontinence. But for this club to get up this year the style needs to change or adapt and a CB is needed.

Going forward we look more dangerous with an accurate long pass out to the wings a run then possibly a cut back to a supporting player pass and shot. However the passing in this move often breaks down by piss poor technique from O'Hare or Hamer and the shot, recently from Brewster hit at 80mph then balloons off a defender and we're on the defensive. It is the composure in the final third that is at fault. And as for this endless pissballing around at the back ffs. We are not Liverpool in a CL final 2-1 up with a few minutes to go. We are bloody Sheffield United the most unsuccessful team in the whole EFL who when they get to any sort of big game bottle it. I hate to admit but the S6 mob are better at that than we are. CW/AK have failed in this regard and continue to do so. IMPROVE THE COMPUSURE it aint rocket science. Oh and without a CB we will sure as eggs are eggs be screwed.

 

[petcharlie]

I havent suggested CW be replaced and am not at the moment suffering from urinary incontinence. But for this club to get up this year the style needs to change or adapt and a CB is needed.

Going forward we look more dangerous with an accurate long pass out to the wings a run then possibly a cut back to a supporting player pass and shot. However the passing in this move often breaks down by piss poor technique from O'Hare or Hamer and the shot, recently from Brewster hit at 80mph then balloons off a defender and we're on the defensive. It is the composure in the final third that is at fault. And as for this endless pissballing around at the back ffs. We are not Liverpool in a CL final 2-1 up with a few minutes to go. We are bloody Sheffield United the most unsuccessful team in the whole EFL who when they get to any sort of big game bottle it. I hate to admit but the S6 mob are better at that than we are. CW/AK have failed in this regard and continue to do so. IMPROVE THE COMPUSURE it aint rocket science. Oh and without a CB we will sure as eggs are eggs be screwed.

We all know we need a CB Wilder knows the clubs knows we all know but unfortunately they don't sell them at Tescos . Prem clubs always prefer to do business at the back end of the January window which in turn slows down the whole process . Looking at the table what ever we are doing has put us in a good place winning more matches than any other club in the Championship . What the club also needs in SUPPORT and not negative response from the fans . I also hate to say them at Sheff 6 are better at supporting their club than us . After decades of decline they still believe in the club ,they are of course deluded but you have to admire the support the team is given .Just be patient ,a CENTER BACK WILL ARRIVE SHORTLY .

 

[Keen Blade]

Instead of being postive or negative…..how about being realistic?

Promotion seeking sides are those that are top of the league with the most points, makes no difference if you lose to a rival.
Last season Leeds did the double over Leicester, didn’t do Leeds any good winning these 6 pointers.

Apparently we keep having so many off days but without the 2 points deduction, we’d currently top the league.
We’ve also won more matches than any other team in the league, this is a fact. How can that be?

Can I remind you that when Leeds and Sunderland have off days they always seem to drop points, even against poor sides down near the bottom.
Burnley have a great defense but have consistently struggled to score at home, even against the rubbish teams.

You mention a slide in performance which is true but recent mean we’ve recently struggled to put out a team.
It’s been impressive that we won away at Watford and Swansea with such a cobbled together side.

Can understand the concerns, especially regards defence.
With Souttar we were a clean sheet machine, now he’s injured think we’ll probably concede 1 goal each match
So now the team are under pressure to score at least 2 goals each match. So with a dodgy defence we become a bit like Leeds and need to be more free scoring.
However soon we will be significantly stronger. So imagine how many points we’ll get when we (in theory) click and performances improve.

Overall think there’s more reasons to be optimistic than pessimistic, altho accept there are grounds to be concerned.

"When we click" is your significant remark.

The stubborn way CW clings to shapes & systems when they are patently not producing chances & goals - has many of us wondering if we'll ever properly "click".

1.The speed at which we transition , rarely catching defences unprepared.
2.The obsession with inverted wingers with no getting down the outside unless a FB overlaps. (Alfie just can't).
3.Not seeing what's going wrong in a game and changing things to correct it.
4.Dreadful corners & setpieces - where has all the clever stuff gone that we had in 16-19 ?
5.Wasting Hamer out on the LW on his weaker foot and so not really having a LW.

2. Might be improved by JJK.

5. Might be improved by BBD.

But 1 , 3 & 4 are down to CW himself.

And i hope he isn't thinking of avoiding recruiting a CB by making Alfie & Baptiste our backup to Anel & Robbo.
We need as close to a Souttar clone as we can get.

But if we assume there are 4 defenders & 2 DMs , the biggest puzzle for CW is fitting
Hamer , O'Hare , BBD , a RW and a striker (5) into an attacking 4.

Which has been the imbalance all season.

Hamer must be central. He's not going to be LW when you've just got BBD.

But how can you lose the energy of O'Hare ?

But if you keep him , how can you get a winger on each flank for balance ?

This conundrum is why we have never clicked properly in attack all season.

 

[The Bear]

We all know we need a CB Wilder knows the clubs knows we all know but unfortunately they don't sell them at Tescos . Prem clubs always prefer to do business at the back end of the January window which in turn slows down the whole process . Looking at the table what ever we are doing has put us in a good place winning more matches than any other club in the Championship . What the club also needs in SUPPORT and not negative response from the fans . I also hate to say them at Sheff 6 are better at supporting their club than us . After decades of decline they still believe in the club ,they are of course deluded but you have to admire the support the team is given .Just be patient ,a CENTER BACK WILL ARRIVE SHORTLY .

PC are you American/Canadian?

 

[Silent Blade]

"When we click" is your significant remark.

The stubborn way CW clings to shapes & systems when they are patently not producing chances & goals - has many of us wondering if we'll ever properly "click".

1.The speed at which we transition , rarely catching defences unprepared.
2.The obsession with inverted wingers with no getting down the outside unless a FB overlaps. (Alfie just can't).
3.Not seeing what's going wrong in a game and changing things to correct it.
4.Dreadful corners & setpieces - where has all the clever stuff gone that we had in 16-19 ?
5.Wasting Hamer out on the LW on his weaker foot and so not really having a LW.

2. Might be improved by JJK.

5. Might be improved by BBD.

But 1 , 3 & 4 are down to CW himself.

And i hope he isn't thinking of avoiding recruiting a CB by making Alfie & Baptiste our backup to Anel & Robbo.
We need as close to a Souttar clone as we can get.

But if we assume there are 4 defenders & 2 DMs , the biggest puzzle for CW is fitting
Hamer , O'Hare , BBD , a RW and a striker (5) into an attacking 4.

Which has been the imbalance all season.

Hamer must be central. He's not going to be LW when you've just got BBD.

But how can you lose the energy of O'Hare ?

But if you keep him , how can you get a winger on each flank for balance ?

This conundrum is why we have never clicked properly in attack all season.

 

[Blade56]

Nah. You don't let a 0-3 at home to Hull go that easily.

If we don't beat Derby, we really have to ask some big big questions. Certainly of the management in terms of what they do in training, because the set pieces are woeful, the style of play has regressed into something horrible to watch, and we have lost all defensive solidity we built our first half of the season on.

He's being backed, there's no excuses anymore for the above.

True he’s been backed big time and as before spending it on as all pool of available players. Worry for me is once he’s spent it it’s gone.

Slight consolation is if we get option to buy damage is relatively short term. Cannon is long term so On that one.

Other worry is we keep selling our future prospects to fund Wilders vision. If Burnley win on Monday it will be very very hard to dislodge thise two for automatic. We started season looking strong and used it to good advantage, we’re starting second half of season looking weak with original squad in tatters.

If the big spending rebuild doesn’t work there’s gonna be some dry twitchy investors sphincters int USA

 

[Blade56]

But we DONT KNOW if the set pieces are woeful, maybe if we could beat the first man we'd get to find out ( Mr Peck)

You fairly knew and may not know I’m dexlyxiac. But, ever time I see your name under your Avitar it looks like Rustbucket

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

You fairly knew and may not know I’m dexlyxiac. But, ever time I see your name under your Avitar it looks like Rustbucket

Sounds like a makeover is needed. Dr Who style regenerations aren't just for the forums bad boys. I'm planning a post season do over.

 

[Blade56]

Sounds like a makeover is needed. Dr Who style regenerations aren't just for the forums bad boys. I'm planning a post season do over.

Having my lips plumped and tits lifted ain’t gonna cure my deyxlesia


For anyone wondering why I always put an amusing spelling of dislxyia it’s because I can’t spell dyslexia correctly. I mean, come on, which sadist made the official word for word blindness dexlicksisa?

 

[Banzeye]

Complete overreaction for me. The team is depleted. A left back in midfield, a player signed that morning starting up front, another player who’s hardly had any game time all season starting wide left. All that added to a team which if you listed its top five players not long ago has four of them unavailable (Arblaster, Souza, Hamer and Souttar). All that said, we were an incorrect decision away from levelling that game. As it was we ended up chasing it which led to definitely the third goal and arguably the second too. I’d hope for a better performance against Derby and with the players we have due back it’d be slightly worrying if not, but to view that game purely as “lost 3-0 at home to Hull” and not take into account any of the context feels off to me.

Proper analysis is that.
It’s an acorn, not an oak tree

 

[Bennyand the Blades]

Having my lips plumped and tits lifted ain’t gonna cure my deyxlesia


For anyone wondering why I always put an amusing spelling of dislxyia it’s because I can’t spell dyslexia correctly. I mean, come on, which sadist made the official word for word blindness dexlicksisa?

Then why not use the spell checker ?

 

[SB_90]

If we don't beat Derby, we really have to ask some big big questions. Certainly of the management in terms of what they do in training,

exactly IF

 

[Slim Man]

exactly IF

Yeah? Point being?

 

[SB_90]

Yeah? Point being?

what the point about worrying about hypothetical results. we will come to that bridge if we cross it

 

[Slim Man]

what the point about worrying about hypothetical results. we will come to that bridge if we cross it

Why discuss anything hypothetical on a forum? Why talk about potential signings, we'll talk about them when they're through the door.

 

[Valleyblade]

Weerz centre back?

 

[Valleyblade]

You all need to give wilder a break.

I thought I'd been transported to the Adkins era sat on the kop on Friday.

Who else would you have gambled on for manager to take us down and rebuild us?

I share concerns that he gets a bit over excited when given money to spend, but he deserves our support now.

18 games, is it?

 

[SB_90]

Why discuss anything hypothetical on a forum? Why talk about potential signings, we'll talk about them when they're through the door.

but your concerned about something that might not happen. we could beat derby & everything will happen

 

[ancientblade]

weve 5 days now to bring the 3 players in we need jjk choud and cb after that there can be no more excuses chris has to be more positive in games stop worrying about the opposition and play with more tempo im sure our fans would sooner us give it a good go than all this safety first sideways backwards football