Girls and football?

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William Henry Foulkes said:
I think an explicit part of the remit of the BBC is some form of non-commercial public service. They are actually meant to broadcast unpopular stuff. 6 Music and Radio 3 seem like obvious examples of this - among many others.

Here they could be seen to be trying to break a vicious circle of underexposure.

Women's football is not on the telly.

Therefore fewer girls play it.

Therefore the standard is low.

Therefore women's football is not on the telly.

I'm glad they are.
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Bert watched it for half and hour until it was time to go to his Gentleman's Club. It wasn't a very good advert for the women's game.
 



mosbolad said:
All very interesting Greasy, but what has this got to do with having a pop at women's football?

The BBC having an agenda by screening a women's England international euro qualifier? o_O
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Grrrrrrrrr!!!!!
I'M NOT HAVING A F****G POP AT WOMEN'S FOOTBALL!!!!!
Well, I am, but only in a bit-of-fun kind of way.
The nearest I came to having a pop was to agree with Swiss's point about there being other equally good-to-watch women's sports that get far less air time.
Of course the standard of women's football is improving, and I have watched games myself.
Did I enjoy them? No not really. I honestly couldn't help drawing a comparison between what I watched and what I'd rather watch ie the men's game.
I have no problem with the Beeb showing a programme that, in the interests of fairness to others who pay their license fee, will be enjoyed by those who have an interest in the women's game.
The Stephanie Roche effort in WHF's post 4 was as good as anything you'll see in the men's game.
Reminded me very much of myself.....when my hair used to be blonde!!
 
JohnDenver said:
The cricket authorities are cleverly arranging women's matches to mirror the men's schedule. It invites the media to increase the coverage.

It's interesting to me that no-one bats an eyelid when female olympians get big coverage, despite the fact they're no match for the men. We accept that, but grumble that other female sports fall short of male standards.
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Probably because athletics undertaken by either gender is dull as dishwater and timed to be on TV when there is no interesting sport on.
 
sportinguista said:
Whilst working on Footballer's Wives series 3 some years ago it was suggested by the footballing extras that a lunchtime game be played against crew members on a day we filmed at Spurs training ground. The Footballer's were all signed to teams such as St Albans City and similar, so clearly has some talent. We were film crew who like to kick a ball about. As a lifelong keeper I volunteered to go in goal but was told a girl from the production office had asked to be involved and would play there so I was shoved out on the wing.
How they smirked as we lined up.
How we laughed as they couldn't score past the then England ladies goalkeeper, we found out they were all nesh and romped home 5-0.

She was fucking ace.
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Fairy Nuff.

The dodgy keepers is just something (I think) I see when I watch the game. It might be to do with the relative size of the goals to the players. Or it might not even be a thing. Who knows?

On a personal note there were only two players I ever played against who I thought I had no chance of beating: one was a left back in a Sunday morning game who knew exactly where to stand so I had no chance of ever getting past him - and the other was a young lass in a kickabout on Highbury Fields.
 
Mens football - Very popular - Has the coverage to match.

Womens football - Not as popular to say the least - Starting to get more coverage than it's popularity deserves.*

* BBC coverage should be representative of the popularity of the sport, and not be influenced by other factors.
 
JohnDenver said:
They pick up on it because underage sex, insurance fraud and violence are all wrong. Being gay doesn't belong in such company.
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Good point well made JD. The amount of exposure/storylines on TV about homosexuality though doesn't reflect society, so the question for me remains why? Because it's hip, topical, interesting or something else? It's the same with how Neighbours is increasingly about pushing sexy story lines. Pursuit of viewing figures before responsible programming?
 
Barney said:
Mens football - Very popular - Has a lot of coverage.

Womens football - Not as popular to say the least - Starting to get more coverage than it's popularity deserves.*

* BBC coverage should be representative of the popularity of the sport, and not be influenced by other factors.
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Are you still here?

How about publicising a sport so it becomes more popular?
 
Wapping Blade said:
Are you still here?

How about publicising a sport so it becomes more popular?
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What if not many people give a shit about said sport? If a sport was to become more popular, it will happen naturally and shouldn't need over publication to achieve it. I don't suppose the rise of mens football was born out of more media coverage.
 
GreasyChipBeattie said:
Good point well made JD. The amount of exposure/storylines on TV about homosexuality though doesn't reflect society, so the question for me remains why? Because it's hip, topical, interesting or something else? It's the same with how Neighbours is increasingly about pushing sexy story lines. Pursuit of viewing figures before responsible programming?
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Well my question would be why does it bother you in the slightest?

I don't watch Eastenders, Neighbours, Coronation Street or any Soaps for that matter, I think they should be classed as viewing for the hard of thinking. I am aware that they are popular and no problem with that.

I really don't think it should come as a surprise that commercial companies chase the viewing figures. It would be remiss of them not to?
 



Wapping Blade said:
Are you still here?

How about publicising a sport so it becomes more popular?
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if it's on the BBC it's dead already. they try so hard the poor luvvies and always miss the boat. glastonbury was shit when they started televising it. they never bothered with cycling which has gone HUGE even though they could have had the rights. instead we get the boat race (because they all went to oxbridge) and bloody athletics that noone apart from boo is interested in.
 
Public service broadcasting should serve and represent the public, right ? Some of whom, I've heard it whispered, might be women. In this respect, BBC coverage of women's sport (whatever the sport) makes perfect sense. Nothing to do with positive discrimination or "political correctness" (a ghastly phrase that implies egalitarianism is somehow doctrinaire or dogmatic, and a phrase often used by people who are opposed to egalitarianism, whatever self-justifying crap they churn out to defend their use of it).

On the other hand, the BBC might just be promoting women's football and cricket because Murdoch et al have pinched the men's versions of these sports more or less wholesale, and the Beeb have "only" the women to go with.
 
mosbolad said:
Well my question would be why does it bother you in the slightest?
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Because my wife sits there ogling half-naked young fit surfing type blokes while I cook tea. THAT'S why I'm f****g bothered Mossy!
But on a serious note, shouldn't we all be concerned about what our kids are watching?
 
The BBC should make more effort to entertain the public rather than just represent them. At a guess, most women prefer to watch men's football.
 
Bert said:
The BBC should make more effort to entertain the public rather than just represent them.
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They did that with the Night Manager - £3m per hour of TV. Old school drama where men are men and women are winsome victims.

So it's not all bad eh.
 
Bert said:
The BBC should make more effort to entertain the public rather than just represent them. At a guess, most women prefer to watch men's football.
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Why should the BBC make 'more effort' to entertain 'the public'

Who are their public and what entertains them?
 
hello said:
Yes actually Swiss. Since you asked. What bugs you about it? Evidently something does.
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As I said on my other posts on this thread, it's the top billing that the BBC gives it which is my real gripe. When the football at league 1, 2 and conference is of a higher standard and it doesn't get the same billing on BBC as well as other sports where women perform better it is frustrating to see such shit football being pushed as something it's not.
hello said:
You at the lane today swiss?
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Yes.
hello said:
Men do it all the fucking time so tell the truth..what's your problem?
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I don't get what you mean on this point
 
SwissBlade said:
As I said on my other posts on this thread, it's the top billing that the BBC gives it which is my real gripe. When the football at league 1, 2 and conference is of a higher standard and it doesn't get the same billing on BBC as well as other sports where women perform better it is frustrating to see such shit football being pushed as something it's not.

Yes.


I don't get what you mean on this point
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I agree...but the people running the BBC don't give a fuck about football because they are, by and large, the same Oxbridge twats who run our governments...
 



Esablade said:
I agree...but the people running the BBC don't give a fuck about football because they are, by and large, the same Oxbridge twats who run our governments...
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Not sure on the politics of where people come from, however the BBC need to refresh where they spend the licence fee for sport as its atrocious
 
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