This lad Diego?

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Let's let Graham Poll explain.......

First you have to deal with the principle of a free-kick.

If the attacking team are fouled then it is they who hold the advantage.

With a free-kick around the penalty area, we always ask the players whether they want it quick or slow.

This is their window of opportunity to surprise the defence.

If they want it quick, then they have given up the right to re-take it, no matter if it hits a defender who's three yards away.

The same goes if they kick it over the bar. They only get one chance.

The flip side is if they want it slow, they can't then take it while I count out the ten yards for the wall.

They must wait for my whistle.

There is nothing in the laws of the game that say we have to indicate for the free-kick to be taken.

It's just like when someone wants to take a free-kick anywhere else on the field.

As long as the ball is stationary and in the right place then the attacking team can take it as quickly as they like.


Alright Barney I had to look it up! o_O


and yet how many free kicks are pulled back because the referee wasnt ready...
 



Please show me which part of my post was having a go at him? I want him to play. I want him to be given a chance. All I did was point out that it shouldnt have been allowed and that is down to the referee.

We are allowed to admit if an incorrect decision goes for us you know.

Also - the fact I put "blades player" clearly shoes I didn't even know who scored it.
sorry mate. i wasn't having a go at you personally. this generally negative attitude toward the lad i find perplexing.. noone actually knows what has gone off.. it is all rumours
 
Hasn't he got a couple of doubles in his last 2 u21 games? Got to be worth throwing on the bench for Sammon who has zero chance of playing for us next season. About time to see whether this kid is gonna amount to anything.
 
For Christs sake, if the manager can't sort out our young starlets and their 'attitudes', he isn't fit to call himself a manager, in my opinion.
Or, if they can't sort out their own attitudes out can they really be classed as starlets?
I'm actually in two minds who to blame.
 
Not sure I fully agreed with Adkins but I agree your point.

Bringing in DDG or DCL he could have said "if you're not going to apply yourself, then maybe your chance should go to another young lad who will". Also creates a bit of friendly rivalry.

I'm bringing in Conor, he's been shit all season and I'm doing it to spite you. I'm that petty I'd rather ruin the team's chances on this principal.

That's the message the chosen action conveyed, to me as an observe anyway.

There is of course the possibility he'd decided to go with more experience anyway and this was a happy coincidence that also suited his management of Adams. In which case it was just poor tactically, he should have picked an unchanged winning team. Actions like that are why we have no consistency.


All about opinions of course but I don’t think we look a significantly worse team when Sammon plays compared to when Adams plays. I think he was trying to get as much strength and hard work into the team as he could to counter a very athletic Millwall side. I certainly don’t think picking Sammon ahead of DCL or DdG ruined our chances. But for what it’s worth, I’d rather give the game time to those young lads as it will benefit them in the long term. What is strange amongst that approach and what deserves more questioning than picking Sammon is why pick Cuvelier and drop McEveley? That made the midfield weaker and the team smaller overall.
 
Or, if they can't sort out their own attitudes out can they really be classed as starlets?
I'm actually in two minds who to blame.
Agree, me too but there are plenty of young players who get booted out of big clubs because of their attitude. Ferguson bombed out Sharpe and Gillie, No one can manage Ravel Morrison or Ballotelli, Vile Ranger is apparently a nightmare.
At some point you have to think 'fuck it, I'm wasting my time with this twat'.
 
All about opinions of course but I don’t think we look a significantly worse team when Sammon plays compared to when Adams plays. I think he was trying to get as much strength and hard work into the team as he could to counter a very athletic Millwall side. I certainly don’t think picking Sammon ahead of DCL or DdG ruined our chances. But for what it’s worth, I’d rather give the game time to those young lads as it will benefit them in the long term. What is strange amongst that approach and what deserves more questioning than picking Sammon is why pick Cuvelier and drop McEveley? That made the midfield weaker and the team smaller overall.
I think managers can sometimes worry too much about the opposition and overthink things. The classic example being Taylor against Norway but even Fergie's done it in the CL.
Or perhaps he wanted to test Cuvelier in a difficult situation.
Most of our players look OK at times, occasionally good, but they don't do it regularly enough. Part of this may be down to playing against players who are at a similar level or better but I think a lot is down to mentality; can they dig in?

I think NA needs to work out which players can dig in and which can dominate weaker teams and get rid of the ones who can't do both (or either).
 
Agree, me too but there are plenty of young players who get booted out of big clubs because of their attitude. Ferguson bombed out Sharpe and Gillie, No one can manage Ravel Morrison or Ballotelli, Vile Ranger is apparently a nightmare.
At some point you have to think 'fuck it, I'm wasting my time with this twat'.
There are different levels too, Che seems distracted, diego sounds a big eeid, and Ranger sounds like an absolutley-full blown- horrible scumbag!!
I'd have a bit more patience with our boys but it can't all be the managers fault, he's got a club to run we aren't a charity or a psychiatrists.
 
I think managers can sometimes worry too much about the opposition and overthink things. The classic example being Taylor against Norway but even Fergie's done it in the CL.
Or perhaps he wanted to test Cuvelier in a difficult situation.
Most of our players look OK at times, occasionally good, but they don't do it regularly enough. Part of this may be down to playing against players who are at a similar level or better but I think a lot is down to mentality; can they dig in?

I think NA needs to work out which players can dig in and which can dominate weaker teams and get rid of the ones who can't do both (or either).


You mean Taylor's attempts to deal with the world super power that was Jostein Flo?
 
There are different levels too, Che seems distracted, diego sounds a big eeid, and Ranger sounds like an absolutley-full blown- horrible scumbag!!
I'd have a bit more patience with our boys but it can't all be the managers fault, he's got a club to run we aren't a charity or a psychiatrists.
I think Che has had a difficult time losing his dad and Diego must have suffered after going from thinking he was about to start a top level career and then having it taken away by a bad injury but at some point they have to start moving forward and dealing with their personal issues, as we all do.

I heard an interview with a rugby player yesterday who had been paralysed when a scrum collapsed. He went on to play for England as a paralympian. He said that he probably wouldn't have played for England had he remained fit and he'd really enjoyed being in the tournaments and representing his country and that what most people would consider to be the worst day of his life (getting injured) has turned out to have given him so much he wouldn't have had otherwise.

For me, that's PMA defined. Our kids might benefit from hearing someone like that, who can turn adversity and challenge into success.
 
and yet how many free kicks are pulled back because the referee wasnt ready...
There is a procedure to follow and if done correctly the ref will allow a quick free kick to take place.Thierie Henri did one for Arsenal a number of years ago.It may seem ungentlemany but it's same for both sides. Why not for a change applaud a bit of quick thinking by a blade (Diego) makes a change us getting the better of the opposition in such a
clever way. Well done 21s.
 
Hopefully Diego's issues have been down to injuries he can put behind him. Even though I'm a bit sick of hearing about a lad who's done so little, every fan hopes that any youth player is going to be the next star.

With the side as dismal as it's been Adkins has had reason and opportunity, and used both, to give fair chances to everyone he can. And now we're at a point where other youth players have had starts ahead of Diego. DCL, Reid, Whiteman, Wallace, have had a chance. Even Adams is younger than him.

If it's not injuries you have to look at the player. Adkins clearly isn't a Blackwell who'd rather have an empty space on the bench than a youth player who might not be ready. I'm not going to start reading into rumour about his attitude. Could be that he's just not good enough, or that he's never fully recovered from his major injury (think how long it's taken Flo). He'd be far from the first player to not live up to early promise. I remember a huge Arsenal fan (from London and everything) asking me about a player we had, and being surprised he'd ended up with us because all anyone talked about in the youth side was this lad. He went by the forgettable name of Arturo Lupoli.
 
There is a procedure to follow and if done correctly the ref will allow a quick free kick to take place.Thierie Henri did one for Arsenal a number of years ago.It may seem ungentlemany but it's same for both sides. Why not for a change applaud a bit of quick thinking by a blade (Diego) makes a change us getting the better of the opposition in such a
clever way. Well done 21s.
Why are the two mutually exclusive? Can't someone be critical of the ref without being accused of having a dig at Diego?
 
I remember a huge Arsenal fan (from London and everything) asking me about a player we had, and being surprised he'd ended up with us because all anyone talked about in the youth side was this lad. He went by the forgettable name of Arturo Lupoli.

Arsenal?

Could have sworn he started at Hogwarts
 



Why be critical of the ref as all procedures were followed correctly as far as we know.
Personally, I'm not but others have questioned whether it should have been allowed and then been accused of slagging Diego off. It's in the posts above.
 
I like to look at basic facts. The reality, no matter how it's spun, is that De Girolamo has made zero starts in the league for us and only 2 substitute appearances, both of which were now over 3 years ago. For someone that's now one of our longest-serving professional players, that's not a good stat. You can explain this in numerous ways – Clough was too mean, Adkins is too mean (or too soft, depends who's saying what any given day at the minute), De Girolamo's legs get too frequently injured – but I cannot remember so much fuss given to someone that had frankly displayed very little to warrant it. And this is coming from someone that genuinely wants our youngsters to succeed.

Call me harsh, tell me I'm missing something, but at this stage I really wouldn't be at all bothered to see him move to a League 2 club permanently this summer.
 
sorry mate. i wasn't having a go at you personally. this generally negative attitude toward the lad i find perplexing.. noone actually knows what has gone off.. it is all rumours

Its hard to believe he hasn't been given a first team chance which suggests something isnt right. He should feature before end of season now, surely.
 
It's definitely strange. Stands out at U18 and U21 level and is reportedly sought after but never gets anywhere near the first team and is overtaken by DCL.

I hope he knuckles down and makes it but the signs are ominous.
 
It's definitely strange. Stands out at U18 and U21 level and is reportedly sought after but never gets anywhere near the first team and is overtaken by DCL.

I hope he knuckles down and makes it but the signs are ominous.

Who gave the young lad the extension (was it Adkins or McCabe ) to his contract and anybody know for how long .

It's either they signed him up because they didn't want him to leave for nowt , see him as a asset , or do believe he will come good . Hope it's the last and he uses the Adkins pathway to the first team , great having a local lad make it , and would save us some dosh.

Do like Diego , but if he ain't going to make it , or does have a bad attitude , then just fuck him off .

UTB
 
Who gave the young lad the extension (was it Adkins or McCabe ) to his contract and anybody know for how long .

It's either they signed him up because they didn't want him to leave for nowt , see him as a asset , or do believe he will come good . Hope it's the last and he uses the Adkins pathway to the first team , great having a local lad make it , and would save us some dosh.

Do like Diego , but if he ain't going to make it , or does have a bad attitude , then just fuck him off .

UTB
It was under Clough he got the extension.
 



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