Adams' Omission On Saturday

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Tyler Durden said:
The diiference is that at 19, I was indeed an irresponsible lazy twat with a bad attitude, but I was working at Meadowhall selling shoes for minimum wage and the bosses were arseholes.
What I can say is that if I'd been playing amateur football at that age and had been snapped up by a fairly sizeable professional club paying exceptional wages at that level, I wouldn't be displaying such a flagrant sense of entitlement.
A club in such a decline as ours really doesn't have the time to taming young ego's.
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It depends on the person, of course, but I think it's too easy to say you wouldn't be this or that if you were in his position at that age. The majority of football fans have dreamed at some point of playing for their club, which means when they see someone not giving 100% for the shirt it pisses them off, and the old idea of 'I'd kill to be in his position' arises. Not giving 100% is what has made a lot of us extremely angry this season. If we give that and fail then so be it, but we've given nowhere near that in some of our performances. Anyway, I digress.

Football players are a different kettle of fish to fans. They'll have done nothing but play football for almost all of their lives. Growing overly-accustomed to an environment you've been in from 6(?) onwards is bound to happen and when young adulthood and a bit of dosh comes along, I bet it's piss easy to lose sight of what's really important (hard work, right attitude, etc). Like many at that age, I couldn't see past my next night out. It was all about having a great time now and sod the future. Even when someone is handsomely compensated for skipping past such activities and entrusting they have the right attitude when doing their job, it's surely fair to assume such people might have a period where they're sidetracked by their condition; i.e. being a teenager?

There's a player in there. We've seen him. All we can do as a club is try to direct his focus on football and hope he does it. You can lead a horse to water and all that.7

Ironically his slump has been since he's signed a new deal. He'll probably do a Flynn and shit himself when his contract is almost up. Then it'll be 20-goal Che days :D
 
The attitude of some of them is really boiling my piss. The love the money and all that goes with it, they love being the "big I am" on a night out, they love the hangers on, that the highlight of some poor fuckers life is having a selfie with them.

But can they remember when they just loved the game? Can they remember when they first picked a ball up, and how good winning felt, not for the money or the bonuses or the cars. Because winning a game of football felt fucking good. god I miss that buzz, but will they? I wonder?
 
mosbolad said:
I'm not pretending for 1 minute we are doing well but Adkins didn't surely bluff his way to 4 promotions?
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By all accounts he has gone to real extremes in regards to his motivational speaches and Mumbo jumbo shit. At the end of the day players aren't listening to him.

People listen to the same interviews every week and complain about the above. What do you think he's like in the dressing room? He's as mad as a hatter and there is no talking to him. Players and fans have turned off.

I have no fucking idea what happened to the guy who got 4 promotions because that's not who we've got right now.

Enough is enough
 
TomJonesBlade said:
It depends on the person, of course, but I think it's too easy to say you wouldn't be this or that if you were in his position at that age. The majority of football fans have dreamed at some point of playing for their club, which means when they see someone not giving 100% for the shirt it pisses them off, and the old idea of 'I'd kill to be in his position' arises. Not giving 100% is what has made a lot of us extremely angry this season. If we give that and fail then so be it, but we've given nowhere near that in some of our performances. Anyway, I digress.

Football players are a different kettle of fish to fans. They'll have done nothing but play football for almost all of their lives. Growing overly-accustomed to an environment you've been in from 6(?) onwards is bound to happen and when young adulthood and a bit of dosh comes along, I bet it's piss easy to lose sight of what's really important (hard work, right attitude, etc). Like many at that age, I couldn't see past my next night out. It was all about having a great time now and sod the future. Even when someone is handsomely compensated for skipping past such activities and entrusting they have the right attitude when doing their job, it's surely fair to assume such people might have a period where they're sidetracked by their condition; i.e. being a teenager?

There's a player in there. We've seen him. All we can do as a club is try to direct his focus on football and hope he does it. You can lead a horse to water and all that.7

Ironically his slump has been since he's signed a new deal. He'll probably do a Flynn and shit himself when his contract is almost up. Then it'll be 20-goal Che days :D
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There's probably loads of kids out there who dream of being Data Analysts their whole lives, but you know what.... from time to time I might slack off a bit as well.
 
Rodders said:
There's probably loads of kids out there who dream of being Data Analysts their whole lives, but you know what.... from time to time I might slack off a bit as well.
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Precisely, sir! There's probably lots of kids out there who dream of working in admi...

Nope. My job's shit. That's why I'm on here. Slacking, ironically :D
 
Sprite said:
Do nt put all the blame on Che. Adkins needs to assess himself, I think he would be disgusted and wouldn't allow himself to have anything to do with next 10 games. Adkins is one queer cookie.....and for what is worth the majority of the team and staff are finding it more difficult working with him than being under Clough. Bottom line Adkins and his coaches are crap and unfortunately he suckered everyone in to believing he could do the job. Mr Mcabe is finding it difficult to admit this, but it is very very close.
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I didn't blame Che, I was referring to the whole squad. For what its worth, I was 50/50 re Adkins before Saturday's game, but then he made 3 changes after a 3 nil win, which has now completely lost me.
 
Okay giving Adkins the benefit of the doubt about leaving Adams out, did he have to go with the Option of the Hopeless Sammon?

Why not give Done a go up top or the young kid scoring for fun in the under 21s Diego or something I believe he is called?
 
Jostein's Bandage said:
I think the question is why does this keep happening? I reckon the players would be trying harder in training if Warnock was here.

Why is the manager allowing players to not train hard? It's no use just letting them do what they want and then come saturday...oh you didn't train properly, you are dropped. Make them phucking train properly! Whether that's by motivation, fines, a kick up the arse or whatever. That's what the manager is paid to do. You often hear managers say they have to treat all players differently, to get the most out of them. What works for one, may not work for another. Clearly Adkins hasn't got a clue how to get the best out of at least half the squad.
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I'd guess he's trying to teach them personal responsibility. If you don't train hard, you don't get picked.
I'm not convinced criticising him in public is the right way but it's not the first time he's had problems with Che and I suspect he's getting exasperated with the general lack of professionalism at the club.
 
blades78 said:
Its not the first time that Adkins has indicated players have been poor in training or fitness levels have been an issue. Add the Baxter issue and the reports of players out drinking regular, it really does look like Adkins inherited a squad with a Sunday League mentality.

He's obviously trying to re address this and give players a kick up the backside, but some haven't taken to it and been shipped out. The fact that nearly all the players released or on loan are all struggling to get in their respective sides or on the treatment table again, says it all.
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And says why Adkins should still be our manager this time next year.

It takes a long time to change the culture in any business, usually a high turn over of employees, and definitely NOT a new manager every year.

My feeling is that we have had a culture problem for a long time and someone needs to be given the time and tools to change it.

Is Adkins that man? I don't know but he hasn't had the chance to show us either way yet.

Starting all over again for the umpteenth time in a few years is not the way to go.

We need to grit our teeth and prepare for a bumpy ride because a culture change has been a long time coming.
 
mosbolad said:
Ha!!! It was you then! It was good fun dodging the moderators, an art in itself. :)

(that's dodging not dogging...)
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My luck ran out on 606, that's when I jumped ship to Bladesmad, then even they couldn't tolerate me after a while!
 
blades78 said:
I didn't blame Che, I was referring to the whole squad. For what its worth, I was 50/50 re Adkins before Saturday's game, but then he made 3 changes after a 3 nil win, which has now completely lost me.
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It wasn't a personal critique but a generalised reply to the underlying topic of the thread. Adkins is screwing with all the younger ones and could literally mess their careers up, Clough is another one good at that. It needs the team to have a good leader, then a fan base that supports the team. (Not a slure at fans, but we are the most critical) irrespective of the money if you are led by a wanker then that is the result you get.
 



Sprite said:
It wasn't a personal critique but a generalised reply to the underlying topic of the thread. Adkins is screwing with all the younger ones and could literally mess their careers up, Clough is another one good at that. It needs the team to have a good leader, then a fan base that supports the team. (Not a slure at fans, but we are the most critical) irrespective of the money if you are led by a wanker then that is the result you get.
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Che Adams has done nothing since he scored a few goals early in the season.Adkins it seems to me has tried different ways to get him contributing again including an arm round. Adams has maybe not responded to that so Adkins is trying a different approach ( Clough did it with Mcnulty) which is more direct calling him out, its all psychology and it could work although Mcnulty didn't respond to Clough.
It's not Adkins normal way as he is usually very protective of his players,different personalities respond to different methods and in my opinion it's Adkins way of trying to get more out of him.Adkins has done a course on sports psychology so it wouldn't surprise me if this is the motivation behind the change of approach.
 
Rodders said:
There's probably loads of kids out there who dream of being Data Analysts their whole lives, but you know what.... from time to time I might slack off a bit as well.
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I get the impression that our brainbox from Ilkeston could even spell data never mind analyst
 
I see James Shield caught journalism tourettes this morning. Could he not figure out what to write about?

Ched Evans, Adkins, Millwall and all in the first paragraph. At least fatty Samuel throws sumat about the blades in after about 300 words...

"Nigel Adkins has told his players that quitters will not be tolerated at Bramall Lane.

Sheffield United, whose former striker Ched Evans resumes his bid to overturn a rape conviction at the Court of Appeal this morning, slipped to 12th in the League One table after being beaten by Millwall last weekend."
 
Has Che been hanging out with Diego and hoping that Juve come calling for him as well?
 
Lookin at this season i think there's a problem with adkins/adams......how many folk dont like their boss?........but the lad needs to get in line and appreciate what he's got and where he is!!...having said that if we lost our brightest asset via bullshit it just be another cross in the notepad in the this disastrous season
 
Tyler Durden said:
Because he couldn't be arsed to train properly.

http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/foot...field-united-i-won-t-quit-says-boss-1-7809933

Well let's see if he can be arsed to train back at Alfreton Town then, the little prick.

That has to be the final straw.
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I know a man (very well), who knows a man (very well) who knows this young man (very well). He's said quite a lot about "an attitude that could be a lot better" and a lot about what he gets up to - off the pitch. When I declared my hand a few months back and commented on an apparent, "lack of professionalism" and a propensity "to play the big man - till early in the morning", I was called a "c**t" on here by some joker, and another said, "it was the biggest load of shit he'd ever read". Another claimed that I "wouldn't be able to spot a good player, even if one bit me in the arse hole".

Whilst I suggested that some folk on here were getting carried away about him, I never questioned the kids potential. I did, however, state that there was a strong rumour circulating that he does have an attitude problem. To support this there's also been talk (though I can't confirm the detail), that he's received a number of fines for breaches of club discipline.

I genuinely hope the lad can turn it around because under that expanding bulk, I think there's a very decent prospect 'nesting' there. That said, if he can't overcome these 'apparent' problems, and if he can't focus 150% on his game and his future career. Then I'm afraid he will go the way of many before him who, despite having bundles of talent, are destined for life in the minor leagues.

It's a real pity because we need all the talent we can find at the moment. He's still young so let's hope he can turn things around for everyone's sake.
 
This is the second time this season he's shown this kind of bad attitude. I've never not been in a fit state to work as I believe he was the first time. Unless he changes his attitude and starts giving 110% in training for the rest of the season we should get shut of him. The lower leagues are littered with talented players with bad attitudes. Flog him for whatever we can get and add a large sell-on clause.

There's a culture amongst some of the young players it would seem and it doesn't to be one of work.
 
mosbolad said:
Except it's not the first time. Him and Mcgahey were dropped earlier in the season if I recall correctly. However he needs to realise how hard he has to work. I know he is only young but believe it or not there are lads that get their heads down and work their socks off to be the best they can. The difference between those that make it and those who are so so (or even drop out of the game) can be hard work in training and doing the right things off the pitch as well.

Maybe its that's he has come from non-league (or wherever) and it has been a bit of a culture shock the amount of work that is needed and expected. Maybe he think he has 'made it' already. He has shown in flashes strength, power and an eye for goal so I think he should told what is expected and demanded to make it at a good level. Let's hope he can, he's only young so he's got time to learn.
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Unfortunately ..... we haven't got time for him to learn.

Because as soon as the first fresh green shoots of "promise" start showing and the first offer of ten bob, a shiny brass button and a promise of a friendly match are on the table ........ our "forward looking ambitious" Board will have him sold !! o_O

UTB & FTP
 



From the pig end said:
BASTARD!! When I heard that Sammon was starting Saturday because he trained well I didn't realise it was because his competition couldn't give a shit!
He won't change, he's only going to care less and less, you can't coach motivation.
I never thought I'd say it, but I'd get shut now
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Fuck the poor attitude in training .....

Adams should be fined two weeks wages for allowing the opportunity for Sammon to be selected to play !! :eek:

UTB & FTP
 
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