We've lost a dressing room....

[dblade56]

I hear all this rubbish about the ability of the players, and I'm sorry, in most cases, that is not accurate.

These are all professional players, many have represented their country at some level, but now they don't care.

They can blame the fans all they want, but if there was a chance for us to cheer them on and reward the effort they put in, 100% we would be behind them.

No, I'm sorry but, in my opinion, the issue is the manager.

We knew Collins was not good enough - given a second chance
We thought Baxter has some skill but not legs - given three chances
We loved Brayford - he couldn't care less now
We knew Sammon, Hammond and Woolford we not improvements on what we had
We hoped Reed would develop - played well vs Vale and apparently at Rochdale - dropped in favour of Edgar
I loved Flynnaldo at wing back when Brayford was injured - never tried there again
Bash is never going to be a quick passer as a midfield general, loved him as stand in centre back - moved back into mf for Collins to come back
Adams and Done had the speed to frighten any League 1 defender last year - lost it or don't care
We need a captain who is a leader, I didn't think Doyle could play football, but as a leader he's never been replaced, make Billy the captain, at least he cares.

They can all play when they want to, look at Villa, QPR, Hull, Spurs, Southampton games. Is it that they can only be bothered to play the big boys?

Just my views

 

[Ricky]

Individually they do have more ability than they're showing. It's just that they lack character collectively, are lazy and are in a slow team that never has the correct balance and is full of other players with similar limitations.

 

[dblade56]

Not defending the players, I hope most of them are gone next year, but I don't know what to expect either and that's what worries me

 

[PeteBlade]

Not a single player we release (Brayford aside) will player at a higher level than they are currently.

 

[Ricky]

Not a single player we release (Brayford aside) will player at a higher level than they are currently.

And Brayford wouldn't stay there very long playing the way he is at the moment.

 

[Loxleyviewblade]

I hear all this rubbish about the ability of the players, and I'm sorry, in most cases, that is not accurate.

These are all professional players, many have represented their country at some level, but now they don't care.

They can blame the fans all they want, but if there was a chance for us to cheer them on and reward the effort they put in, 100% we would be behind them.

No, I'm sorry but, in my opinion, the issue is the manager.

We knew Collins was not good enough - given a second chance
We thought Baxter has some skill but not legs - given three chances
We loved Brayford - he couldn't care less now
We knew Sammon, Hammond and Woolford we not improvements on what we had
We hoped Reed would develop - played well vs Vale and apparently at Rochdale - dropped in favour of Edgar
I loved Flynnaldo at wing back when Brayford was injured - never tried there again
Bash is never going to be a quick passer as a midfield general, loved him as stand in centre back - moved back into mf for Collins to come back
Adams and Done had the speed to frighten any League 1 defender last year - lost it or don't care
We need a captain who is a leader, I didn't think Doyle could play football, but as a leader he's never been replaced, make Billy the captain, at least he cares.

They can all play when they want to, look at Villa, QPR, Hull, Spurs, Southampton games. Is it that they can only be bothered to play the big boys?

Just my views

Good shout.....Billy for captaincy.

 

[bornablade]

I loved Collins under Cloughie cos he wasn't in the team
I loved Flynny under Cloughie
I loved Done under Cloughie
I loved Reed under Cloughie
I loved Brayford under Cloughie
I loved Che under Cloughie

I loved the fact Cloughie made Murphy into a £2million player and the fact that Cloughie's successor has invested that money on Woolford and Hammond.

Despite all this I still think we should stick with Adkins.

 

[PeteBlade]

The people who run Sheffield United are that incompetent, I wouldn't put it passed them to have physically lost the dressing room.

 

[Treeton Blade]

The people who run Sheffield United are that incompetent, I wouldn't put it passed them to have physically lost the dressing room.

McCabe out

 

[west_yorks_blade]

We've lost a dressing room?

Has anyone looked properly for it?

Is it possible that Higgo ate it before he left?

 

[PeteBlade]

McCabe out

He can't get out, he's trapped in the dressing room and no one can find him

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

All in preparation for the new, £1m, state-of-the-art Desso dressing room soon to be installed...

 

[Hodgyman]

They have also started to lose supporters too. 20,000 -> 18,000 -> 17,000 in the last 3 home games. At least 2 less for the rest of the season, me & my grandson (both season ticket holders). We will not be renewing either.

 

[pommpey]

I hear all this rubbish about the ability of the players, and I'm sorry, in most cases, that is not accurate.

These are all professional players, many have represented their country at some level, but now they don't care.

How many consistent internationals do we have? And let's face it, being picked for your counntry is no guarantee of excellence these days, is it?

They can blame the fans all they want, but if there was a chance for us to cheer them on and reward the effort they put in, 100% we would be behind them.

So playing in front of 16-20,000 people every other weekend is a meaningless aspect is it? I'd gesture they put 100% in already. But it is 100% of 50% of what is required to be champions of this division. The proof? Look at the league table.

No, I'm sorry but, in my opinion, the issue is the manager.

So, what of Clough, Wier, Wilson? Iteratively we have lost key players over that period of time, changed managers and got progressivly worse. The most recent of those three is managing a team - by whatever means - which beat us at home on Tuesday night. He didn't arrive and players were sold and the team instantlyu got worse. For that, read Yeovil Town. In fact, they beat us on their way up, did they not?

We knew Collins was not good enough - given a second chance

And he still isn't good enough to be centre back in a team hoping for promotion to the Championship. Up there he'd be torn to bits. You know that, I know that and I think he knows that.

We thought Baxter has some skill but not legs - given three chances

Baxter is a waster. A waster of talent and time and ultimately, results. You could have Mourinho in charge and he'd still be shit. In fact, Mourinho would have sacked him.

We loved Brayford - he couldn't care less now

Loved. Note 'loved'. Back then he was playing in a side which contained Coady, Maguire and Murphy, three players who were significant contributors to significant key games where we won. Now who is he playing with? You can have Messi in with Brunsmeer Juniors 2nd XI and if you are playing Real Madrid, sure, Messi is their standard, but the poor cunts alongside him are going to be turned inside out, and he'll hardly get a touch as they lose 27-0. That is the parallel.

We knew Sammon, Hammond and Woolford we not improvements on what we had

But were available. As opposed to more realistic, better equipped targets we could have stretched to and augmented the squad with, rather than spunk £1m+ on a fucking pitch we serially get beaten on.

We hoped Reed would develop - played well vs Vale and apparently at Rochdale - dropped in favour of Edgar

Reed needs an icon to work from in midfield. Do you think Reed would be so inconsistent if Stuart McCall was still playing for us? Who does he look to? Cuvellier? Basham?

I loved Flynnaldo at wing back when Brayford was injured - never tried there again

But flynn has blown hot and mainly cold throughout four consecutive managers. We know where his weaknesses are, and so does everyone else in this division we are stuck in.

Bash is never going to be a quick passer as a midfield general, loved him as stand in centre back - moved back into mf for Collins to come back

But Basham is agin, inconsistent and easily bypassed. He is not exactly 'solid' is he? And he has shown this since he arrived, both at the back and in midfield. He is at his physical ability threshold. Can you imagine Championship midfields with him playing in them? He'd wonder what game he was playing in.

Adams and Done had the speed to frighten any League 1 defender last year - lost it or don't care

I believe Adams is waiting for the next bus out of town and frankly, I can't blame him. When he grabbed his brace against Spurs I was overjoyed - we'd actually got a damned good footballer, young, active and direct, but he need to be surrounded by other footballers like that. He can't do it on his own, can he? Done is consitently not played or is played out of position. He is not a winger.

We need a captain who is a leader, I didn't think Doyle could play football, but as a leader he's never been replaced, make Billy the captain, at least he cares.

You don't make players captains 'because they care'. You make them captain because they can lead and carry out the manager's business out there on the park. I have never been in favour of goalkeepers and forwards being captain. You need someone centrally placed, a god eye for football, psoitionally aware (in that they can read all positions and suss out when oppositions change their strategy) and pull the team upwards when shit happens.

They can all play when they want to, look at Villa, QPR, Hull, Spurs, Southampton games. Is it that they can only be bothered to play the big boys?

I doubt we have 45% of the collective (and in sum of all the parts, not individual) talent installed in the side these days compared to those games

pommpey

 

[Sean Thornton]

We've lost a dressing room?

Has anyone looked properly for it?

Is it possible that Higgo ate it before he left?

Baxter sold it for a wrap

 

[Borbokisfreekick]

I loved Collins under Cloughie cos he wasn't in the team
I loved Flynny under Cloughie
I loved Done under Cloughie
I loved Reed under Cloughie
I loved Brayford under Cloughie
I loved Che under Cloughie

I loved the fact Cloughie made Murphy into a £2million player and the fact that Cloughie's successor has invested that money on Woolford and Hammond.

Despite all this I still think we should stick with Adkins.

Yeah it's funny isn't it, that big bad bully Nigel Clough actually developed some players, had players playing for him. But no let's sack him and bring in mr motivator because he's positive, can motivate the players and get more out of them......

That's worked hasn't it.

 

[PeteBlade]

Yeah it's funny isn't it, that big bad bully Nigel Clough actually developed some players, had players playing for him. But no let's sack him and bring in mr motivator because he's positive, can motivate the players and get more out of them......

That's worked hasn't it.

Hindsight.

 

[Borbokisfreekick]

Hindsight.

Or just clear stupidity from our board and the section of our fans who wanted to change managers.

 

[Blade82]

Hindsight.

Déjà vu

 

[Tyler Durden]

Losing this dressing room is no loss whatsoever.

The truth is that they played with the exact same ethos last season and somehow stumbled their way to the play-offs. They capitulated at home to the likes of Fleetwood and Crewe amongst others in the exact same gutless fashion.

If they lack ability, they need to go. If they lack the attitude they need to go. It really is that simple.

These utter fucking cretins are a law unto themselves. Playboy parasites earning big money in a lower league. They do not respect the club, they do not respect the manager and they do not respect us.

Adkins for his faults is a good manager and a good man. As I've said before, he isn't failing us, the odious scumbags who now pass for Sheffield United players are failing him. Because he would be a resounding success at any other club in this division.

The players at this club deserve nothing but contempt, and when we finally fuck them off they will deserve nothing but failure.

 

[west_yorks_blade]

Clough was terrible. Poor results,boring football, negative tactics, poor use of subs, largely bad signings.

So the parallels with Adkins are incredible. But let's not look back at the clough era as some kind of golden age. Gash then, gash now.

 

[chipsncake]

Losing this dressing room is no loss whatsoever.

The truth is that they played with the exact same ethos last season and somehow stumbled their way to the play-offs. They capitulated at home to the likes of Fleetwood and Crewe amongst others in the exact same gutless fashion.

If they lack ability, they need to go. If they lack the attitude they need to go. It really is that simple.

These utter fucking cretins are a law unto themselves. Playboy parasites earning big money in a lower league. They do not respect the club, they do not respect the manager and they do not respect us.

Adkins for his faults is a good manager and a good man. As I've said before, he isn't failing us, the odious scumbags who now pass for Sheffield United players are failing him. Because he would be a resounding success at any other club in this division.

The players at this club deserve nothing but contempt, and when we finally fuck them off they will deserve nothing but failure.

Adkins a good manager? Don't see it, can you expand preferably without reference to his cv which has gone right down the swanny over the couple of years.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Adkins a good manager? Don't see it, can you expand preferably without reference to his cv which has gone right down the swanny over the couple of years.

Well it's a bit difficult to explain why he's a decent manager if I'm not allowed to refer to his record as a manager.

 

[dblade56]

I was indifferent to the sacking of Cloughie, I was prepared to give him another year, yet I was very happy with Mr Adkin's took over, I thought he had a great CV for this league.

He seems like a nice guy and I really hope he can sort out this mess. But on current evidence it is only a hope now, not an expectation

 

[blade too long]

sheffield united have lost a dressing room
it was tiled red and white and had lots of clothes hooks and benches
and spare bottles of head shoulders 2 in 1

if you come across one ring Jim on 0700, need a wesh

 

[PeteBlade]

Well it's a bit difficult to explain why he's a decent manager if I'm not allowed to refer to his record as a manager.

Maybe you could talk about his fashion sense or whether he folds/unfolds his arms?

 

[PeteBlade]

Adkins a good manager? Don't see it, can you expand preferably without reference to his cv which has gone right down the swanny over the couple of years.

Classic!

Can you imagine interviewing for a job and being asked why you were suitable, but hey, please don't refer to any of your previous experience as only the last couple of months count.

 

[Harry's Game]

Adkins a good manager? Don't see it, can you expand preferably without reference to his cv which has gone right down the swanny over the couple of years.

How on earth can evidence of any managers ability be given or argued about without reference to his CV?

I could say Alex Ferguson is a terrific manager and here's a picture of his purple nose to prove it.

I could cite evidence of his 17 League titles but that's on his CV so not allowed, so just look at his nose.

 

[chipsncake]

Well it's a bit difficult to explain why he's a decent manager if I'm not allowed to refer to his record as a manager.

Ok then lets have it in full then but don't forget the reasons why he was sacked by Soton and Reading and why he's on the brink of being sacked for a third time in a relatively short period of time.. Particular reference of what he's achieved for us would be helpful.

 

[alcoblade]

I loved Collins under Cloughie cos he wasn't in the team
I loved Flynny under Cloughie
I loved Done under Cloughie
I loved Reed under Cloughie
I loved Brayford under Cloughie
I loved Che under Cloughie

I loved the fact Cloughie made Murphy into a £2million player and the fact that Cloughie's successor has invested that money on Woolford and Hammond.

Despite all this I still think we should stick with Adkins.

He didn't invest the money in Woolford and Hammond. He invested it in the inherited wages of a bloated squad, including the most expensive third division RB in history.

Other than Done and Brayford, the players you listed were rubbish under Clough. Adkins should answer for their (D & B) loss of form.

The rest were shit last season.

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