It's inevitable

All advertisments are hidden for logged in members, why not log in/register?

Pollingtonblade

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2009
Messages
12,171
Reaction score
20,650
Location
Castleford
That we'll start next season with a new manager, the board sacked Wilson and Clough for getting us to play off semi finals so can't see Adkins lasting past June.

This isn't what I want to happen, I just know Mcabe and co will do this to boost season ticket sales.
 



That we'll start next season with a new manager, the board sacked Wilson and Clough for getting us to play off semi finals so can't see Adkins lasting past June.

This isn't what I want to happen, I just know Mcabe and co will do this to boost season ticket sales.

If Burton beat us easily Tuesday if could happen this week.
 
His CV, the joke of a squad he's had to deal with and the apparent choice between paying managers off and having a transfer budget make him unlikely to be sacked, but if anything could change that it's season ticket sales like you say.
 
If Burton beat us easily Tuesday if could happen this week.

I don't think it will be a blade v QPR , Blackwell v Warnock situation , when Blackwell got the boot after the 3-0 home loss.

If we lose against Burton and have a hostile crowd reaction , it will be another nail in Adkins coffin.

Never mind whatever we say , we have sacked so many managers Adkins has a charmed life , and truth be known , can we afford to sack him financial wise .

We seem to be going backwards in every element of the club .

UTB
 
What could tip him over is a hostile game on Tuesday, Burton win and the Kop start singing there's only one nigel clough.
I really hope not, I want us to turn them over and rub Clough's nose in it.I for one wouldn't have sacked clough, he deserved another season, as does Adkins.
 
Never say never given our recent history under McCabe but I just can't see it.

I reckon they all pretty much tossed the season off before it started...the lack of investment in the squad this season would suggest as much.
 
That we'll start next season with a new manager, the board sacked Wilson and Clough for getting us to play off semi finals so can't see Adkins lasting past June.

This isn't what I want to happen, I just know Mcabe and co will do this to boost season ticket sales.
Clough was sacked because the board asked him to make the playing style more attractive and he refused. They would have stuck with him if he'd agreed.
 
His CV, the joke of a squad he's had to deal with and the apparent choice between paying managers off and having a transfer budget make him unlikely to be sacked, but if anything could change that it's season ticket sales like you say.

I don't think sacking Adkins and having us linked with Parkinson, Wilder, Robinson etc would boost season ticket sales. As posted elsewhere, the problem Adkins has is that there aren't enough encouraging signs at the moment to give any confidence in him as a manager despite the obvious issues we have. Given the Clough sub-plot, winning on Tuesday is a must for him I think.

Of course, there'll be a few players wanting to impress Clough playing for Summer moves as well ;)
 
If the fans are having a dig at McCabe/the board then they'll definitely sack the manager to take the heat of themselves.

At boardroom, management and player level the club require fresh drive and ambition to take them forward. At all levels there's a real complacency around the Lane, all of them quite happy to tread water with no real fire to progress. We hear it in the same old tired rhetoric from McCabe and Adkins, and see it in the lacklustre, couldn't care less performances from most of the players.

They need seem one like a Bassett to galvanise the football side, at boardroom level I would struggle to give a past example of a decent chairman we've had to drive of us forward, early Brearly possibly, but SUFC have always had a 4th rate board holding the club back. Perhaps the fans should try and buy the club, we can't do any worse than the useless t**ts we've had over the last 80+ years.
 
That we'll start next season with a new manager, the board sacked Wilson and Clough for getting us to play off semi finals so can't see Adkins lasting past June.

This isn't what I want to happen, I just know Mcabe and co will do this to boost season ticket sales.
I think you are right. They'll sell three less though. :)

UTB
 
I don't think sacking Adkins and having us linked with Parkinson, Wilder, Robinson etc would boost season ticket sales. As posted elsewhere, the problem Adkins has is that there aren't enough encouraging signs at the moment to give any confidence in him as a manager despite the obvious issues we have. Given the Clough sub-plot, winning on Tuesday is a must for him I think.

Of course, there'll be a few players wanting to impress Clough playing for Summer moves as well ;)

It might not but McCabe might think it will.

As you say, Adkins is showing no encouraging signs, only discouraging signs. If he was showing something then season ticket sales would remain quite strong because most fans will understand how the situation with the squad has restricted us this season.

And yes, our best chance against Burton is to hope our players are trying to prove a point to Clough or auditioning as possible signings for him. But I suspect it's a nailed on 1-0 defeat.
 



I think all signs are that Adkins will stay but only because

a) We have sacked managers every season and it had not worked
b) We cannot afford to sack him
c) We are clinging on to the hope he has some form for getting teams promotion in the past
d) We are hoping he can get some fresh blood in and start again

There are actually as many reasons to sack him:

a) Going to be probably finishing in the worst position we have for 30+ years in the football pyramid
b) Worse in terms of position, performances and results than under Clough
c) No progress as the season has gone on. Repeated excuses in interviews and no clear plan for the short or long term
d) Poor signings other than Sharp and has kept faith with much of rubbish he was left with for way too long
e) Not improved the defence at all - still leaking goals left, right and centre
f) Negative football with no intention to attack teams from the off but worrying too much about other sides

Could go on....

Only reason he stays is because we have sacked managers constantly and he has some form of reputation. I think latter might save him more than the former. If this was say another manager in charge without that record and maybe on a lesser wage/package, I think board would have wielded axe again.

I believe we cannot keep sacking managers BUT Adkins has done absolutely nothing in his time at SUFC to suggest he is going to turn it around in a positive way. I think if the season continues to go away and we lose a lot more games like your rochdales and Burys (Burton v Clough could be a big moment - a heavy defeat could change things) then even the board might roll the dice again.

I am not sure it would work and if people had said I would have preferred Wilder to Adkins a year ago; I would have called them mad but he has proven to do a great job at Northampton and maybe deserves a chance? Every other appointment has gone wrong so if this does so what?!

Maybe less than a year is no time at all but does Adkins deserve time when in that time he has shown nothing really. It has been extremely poor.
 
I said after the Shewsbury debacle it was a long road back for Adkins to win the trust of the large number of fans he lost that night. So far he has failed to do that and seems to have lost a lot more of them

I still don't think it's anything like the majority of fans yet, I think it probably about 60-40 in favour of retaining him, but a few more bad results could tip things closer.
 
I think all signs are that Adkins will stay but only because

a) We have sacked managers every season and it had not worked
b) We cannot afford to sack him
c) We are clinging on to the hope he has some form for getting teams promotion in the past
d) We are hoping he can get some fresh blood in and start again

There are actually as many reasons to sack him:

a) Going to be probably finishing in the worst position we have for 30+ years in the football pyramid
b) Worse in terms of position, performances and results than under Clough
c) No progress as the season has gone on. Repeated excuses in interviews and no clear plan for the short or long term
d) Poor signings other than Sharp and has kept faith with much of rubbish he was left with for way too long
e) Not improved the defence at all - still leaking goals left, right and centre
f) Negative football with no intention to attack teams from the off but worrying too much about other sides

Could go on....

Only reason he stays is because we have sacked managers constantly and he has some form of reputation. I think latter might save him more than the former. If this was say another manager in charge without that record and maybe on a lesser wage/package, I think board would have wielded axe again.

I believe we cannot keep sacking managers BUT Adkins has done absolutely nothing in his time at SUFC to suggest he is going to turn it around in a positive way. I think if the season continues to go away and we lose a lot more games like your rochdales and Burys (Burton v Clough could be a big moment - a heavy defeat could change things) then even the board might roll the dice again.

I am not sure it would work and if people had said I would have preferred Wilder to Adkins a year ago; I would have called them mad but he has proven to do a great job at Northampton and maybe deserves a chance? Every other appointment has gone wrong so if this does so what?!

Maybe less than a year is no time at all but does Adkins deserve time when in that time he has shown nothing really. It has been extremely poor.


A lot of yes's why he should go and maybe the odd no for the wrong reason.

We fans can only see the state of things on the pitch and try to measure progress towards a recognisable system of playing and a culture developing within the playing staff. As you say Deadbat, there's nothing there to see. No doubt by now Adkins will have got the message to the Board about how bad most of the players are and the need for a wholesale clearout. That won't just buy him time, it will buy him loads of time because by nature a total rebuild doesn't happen overnight.

The Board has to judge whether the real Adkins is the one here and at Reading or the one at Southampton and Scunthorpe. Frankly I wouldn't have a clue. This season has been a shambles which was totally unexpected by me for one. I thought we were nailed on for automatic promotion given Adkins' pedigree and I am in shock watching it all pan out.

Chris Wilder is one of my Blades heroes, not for ability though he was a cultured right back, but for commitment and dedication. We once sat near him at Wrexham away, midweek in the League Cup. He had travelled there with his pals when injured.

I'd love to see him manage United successfully and perhaps he could easily cope with the 'rebuild almost from scratch' better than anybody, given his time in the lower leagues.

However, 8 months in the job is no time to judge Adkins unless the vibes are totally against him from within the club. Of course they would be from those on their way out anyway but there are always enough ways to know what sort of presence a manager has within the club.

The expense of paying off another full team of support staff would be heavy and it's nonsense really. Adkins has to be given time to succeed or fail, maybe another 2 years minimum under the circumstances.

As for Chris Wilder, the timing has been 8 months out. No way had Chris made himself a candidate last summer even though he had been a manager for years. I've followed him closely and in his last season at Oxford he was under severe pressure and admitted he was still learning. The move to Northampton came out of the blue and everything has come together for him. He must have done loads right at Oxford too, look at them flying high as well.

It has to be Adkins but I strongly suspect Northampton and Oxford will finish above us next season.
 
Surprised if Adkins is dismissed, prohibitive levels of compensation will keep him in the job.

Lost the dressing room?

Players not playing for him?

KPI's not being achieved?

Wilderness? - well & truly.
 
What could tip him over is a hostile game on Tuesday, Burton win and the Kop start singing there's only one nigel clough.
I really hope not, I want us to turn them over and rub Clough's nose in it.I for one wouldn't have sacked clough, he deserved another season, as does Adkins.
Adkins has been a real disappointment and I dint think he can do the job...and I wanted him as Manager...Reading fans did warn me...
 
I don't think it's inevitable, however he better hope that between him and his scout they have drawn up a good list of players they want to bring in.

I think now mr green is back on transfers and not me Phipps some shite transfers might not be automatically rubber stamped.

I think the board needs convincing like the rest of us
 
Burton match has got draw written all over it.

Not so sure.

We seem to be being offered up signs of hope (youth at Donny; 352 v Vale) interspersed with shattered dreams (Bury, Rochdale) these days.

I'm going for a highly encouraging win over Clough's Burton (cue elation!), followed by being stuffed 3-0 at Mighty Fleetwood (cue despair!).
 
That we'll start next season with a new manager, the board sacked Wilson and Clough for getting us to play off semi finals so can't see Adkins lasting past June.

This isn't what I want to happen, I just know Mcabe and co will do this to boost season ticket sales.

well you have to analyze, what has Adkins brought to the party
and to be fair
I cant come up with a single positive
Id have accepted treading water, but we seem to be wearing lead diving boots
no one hes added has made us better, which Im sure is the gist

Id try someone new now before the window closes , if he cant find at least one Im sure someone could
 
But at the risk of repeating myself, we'd be doing away with a symptom and not the actual problem, which is the people running the club.
Couldn't agree more Pete, it was just a suggestion towards the ones that are saying we can't afford to pay him off.
 
At the risk of repeating myself, it's down to the manager.

All League 1 sides have to live with the sales of their best players, bar none?? Tell me otherwise.

When we get a manager who makes sense in everything he says, signs real bargains in the transfer market and knows how to win a game from the bench - you young ones will know what I mean.

Bassett did it and it's a wonderful experience.

It finds its level, of course it does. But when it happens, enjoy the ride, because happen it will.

Could even be Adkins yet. I reckon he is irresistable once he gets things moving. All his attributes of positivity, encouragement and humanity will all come together when he gets a squad of 'believers' around him.
 
At the risk of repeating myself, it's down to the manager.

All League 1 sides have to live with the sales of their best players, bar none?? Tell me otherwise.

When we get a manager who makes sense in everything he says, signs real bargains in the transfer market and knows how to win a game from the bench - you young ones will know what I mean.

Bassett did it and it's a wonderful experience.

It finds its level, of course it does. But when it happens, enjoy the ride, because happen it will.

Could even be Adkins yet. I reckon he is irresistable once he gets things moving. All his attributes of positivity, encouragement and humanity will all come together when he gets a squad of 'believers' around him.

How do to purchase bargains when your board won't let you purchase anyone due to them giving the last bloke free reign?

Oh, and I'm calm.
 
How do to purchase bargains when your board won't let you purchase anyone due to them giving the last bloke free reign?

Oh, and I'm calm.


Horizontal but incorrect. How do you type when horizontal by the way?

Adkins has said he can sign players if he finds the right ones.

Forgive me, I'm a bit playful this evening.
 



Horizontal but incorrect. How do you type when horizontal by the way?

Adkins has said he can sign players if he finds the right ones.

Forgive me, I'm a bit playful this evening.

As long as you don't flounce off when I also call you incorrect then we're all good...

Adkins is not going to publically contradict his masters.

The plug has clearly been pulled. You'll notice there's been zero rumour about loan players too.

It's somewhat delusional to suggest all is well behind the scenes and lump all the blame on the manager.

Sooner or later we're going to have to realise that the common denominator is holding back rather than this season's manager.
 

All advertisments are hidden for logged in members, why not log in/register?

All advertisments are hidden for logged in members, why not log in/register?

Back
Top Bottom