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I agree about Coady ( the best thing Weir did) but he was looking at the exit door at Liverpool and I think might have signed for us if we had gone up. I have seen it referred to several times that he wanted Championship level or better, but it is questionable how hard we tried on that - Clough thought he had the bargain of the century with Wallace I think and didn't pursue it other than an initial enquiry.
Weir getting Baxter, surely negates any kudos the man gets for coady.
 
Weir getting Baxter, surely negates any kudos the man gets for coady.

Baxter wasn't a bad signing, certainly compared to some others. Cuvelier could've been a brilliant signing but for his injuries, and Coady was a great loan addition.

Weir was actually the last manager of ours who had the right ideas when it comes to recruitment.
 
They're all down south, which young loanee would want to relocate all the way up here, let alone to play for a club as amazingly underperforming as ours. I think I'd just pop across to Colchester too.
 
could any questions be put at the head scouts door?
Since he arrived we haven't really signed anyone him and Nigel Adkins haven't signed before
Sammon seemed as though it was a deal already in place
You can understand that they have budgets to work to and we want to give our own young players a chance but that hasn't really happened until a fortnight ago x
 
could any questions be put at the head scouts door?
Since he arrived we haven't really signed anyone him and Nigel Adkins haven't signed before
Sammon seemed as though it was a deal already in place
You can understand that they have budgets to work to and we want to give our own young players a chance but that hasn't really happened until a fortnight ago x

Questions? Maybe.

Thinly veiled accusations? No.
 
Think there are questions to be answered on our utter lack of apparent positive intent in the transfer market or loan window. Also think there is some absolute shit written by people who don't actually know but just assume.

Like the comment about Weir being the last manager to get good players in. I'm sorry but they were that good we were in a relegation position when he left. Coady didn't look a deal until Clough took hold of him. Clough got Brayford and because of the January activity and shrewd management got us close to the play offs. It was that expectation that hung him when his first full season wasn't such a joy ride.

Clough divides but to not acknowledge his contribution that first season is to neglect all sound reason.
 
Cause they are close enough to the enigma of the bright lights of overcrowded London where 90% of the population think Emgland starts and ends.
 
Agreed. OP was another in this apparently eternal series. More depressing than a Tuesday night in Bury.
OP wasn't it.

As grim as us being jealous of Colchester loanees is, nothing will ever be more depressing than that Tuesday night in Bury my friend! I still revisit McEveley's 92nd minute diagonal ball to the right wing when we had no right winger on the pitch in my nightmares! :(

(This is not a dig at JMac, been one of our best players since Christmas)
 
As grim as us being jealous of Colchester loanees is, nothing will ever be more depressing than that Tuesday night in Bury my friend! I still revisit McEveley's 92nd minute diagonal ball to the right wing when we had no right winger on the pitch in my nightmares! :(

(This is not a dig at JMac, been one of our best players since Christmas)

:-)

My abiding childhood memory of late 70s Blades is potentially exciting free kicks just inside the opposition half floating gently, safely, and utterly incompetently into the crowd behind the goal.

Come to think of it that McEveley pass made me feel almost nostalgic.

UTMB
 
Questions? Maybe.

Thinly veiled accusations? No.

It speaks volumes if you think what he put represents a 'thinly veiled accusation'! Deary me, it was horrendously unacceptable wasn't it!


Think there are questions to be answered on our utter lack of apparent positive intent in the transfer market or loan window. Also think there is some absolute shit written by people who don't actually know but just assume.

Like the comment about Weir being the last manager to get good players in. I'm sorry but they were that good we were in a relegation position when he left. Coady didn't look a deal until Clough took hold of him. Clough got Brayford and because of the January activity and shrewd management got us close to the play offs. It was that expectation that hung him when his first full season wasn't such a joy ride.

Clough divides but to not acknowledge his contribution that first season is to neglect all sound reason.

Is 'right ideas' the same as saying 'good players'? Some of them were shit, like McGinty, some were good/unlucky with injuries but they were almost all the types of players most of us want the club to focus on signing now.
 
Clough divides but to not acknowledge his contribution that first season is to neglect all sound reason.

I have always thought that Clough is what I would call a good "three wheels on my wagon" manager - ie good at making do with what he has got. Equally I have always thought he put too much stake on his brother and an antiquated approach to scouting and player acquisition and his squad building was poor. Burton next season will be interesting as Clough is using JFH's squad this season and a lot of the plaudits should go to him.

Weir (for all his managerial faults - and there were many) had contacts and a good reputation for bringing on young players the right way and he was able to land Coady on loan. I never got the impression that Clough was respected in the game in the same way to be honest. Having said that, if you spend a lot of money on an academy I can imagine there would be reluctance at Board level to sign players on loan who we have no realistic chance of signing permanently. With Coady there was a chance I would suggest, but that all but disappeared when we didn't make the Championship. In the end Coady's appearances for us helped Liverpool recoup some money for him and helped Coady get a new club at a decent level.
 

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