ADKINS SIGNINGS!!

[finlaytheblade]

It makes it difficult to read Finlay, which is a shame because you make some good points but at times, when I see the dense text on my phone I just scroll down without reading.

I accept your comments BushBlade and I will enroll at my nearest college!! Yep fair enough but I write this out as though ime texting and
get carried away with what ime writing ,Blades are my passion as probably they are yours and tend to be more interested in what ime writing rather than punctuation,but bear with me if I get carried away and forget to punctuate my post.

 

[PeteBlade]

I did pass an English exam during my 2ndary schooling days but we didn't do paragraph and exclamation marks in those
days so I have some fun with them now PeteBlade.

I'm only joshing with you Sir.

 

[SwissBlade]

Good analysis finlaytheblade

With the exception of Billy Sharp, I'd rather we didn't have to keep any of the other signings next season.

Edgar - distinctly average
Hammond - unfit, slow, makes stupid decisions, poorly disciplined
Woolford - invisible
Sammon - frustrating, crap in the air
Sharp - good team player, scores a few, misses a lot, works hard, enthusiastic.


As for Adkins saying the buck stops with him, that's good, because him and Phipps have been blaming Clough all season

 

[finlaytheblade]

I'm only joshing with you Sir.

Thats ok Pete we have to have some fun during these trying times for us blades.

 

[Roygbiv]

God I wish Hammond was like Montgomery. Hammond has got the technical ability of Monty but the legs of Micheal Higdon

 

[BushBlade]

Good analysis finlaytheblade

With the exception of Billy Sharp, I'd rather we didn't have to keep any of the other signings next season.

Edgar - distinctly average
Hammond - unfit, slow, makes stupid decisions, poorly disciplined
Woolford - invisible
Sammon - frustrating, crap in the air
Sharp - good team player, scores a few, misses a lot, works hard, enthusiastic.


As for Adkins saying the buck stops with him, that's good, because him and Phipps have been blaming Clough all season

Fortunately we're only stuck with Woolford next season. When has Adkins blamed Clough though?

 

[SwissBlade]

Fortunately we're only stuck with Woolford next season. When has Adkins blamed Clough though?

October (I think) in response to Phipps' rant blaming Clough for signing players.

Adkins backed this up blaming the legacy for the big squad and the shit results

 

[Smirth]

Edgar has certainly improved the team. I don't think anyone would suggest he shouldn't be starting week in week out. Therefore, he is better than the alternatives thus improving the team. Hammond's contribution is debatable. Sammon's relationship with the crowd is beyond repair I think and Woolford is just poor.

Really?

This season's defence has conceded 42 goals in 31 league games.
After 31 league games last season, with what we all agreed was an awful defence, we had conceded 35 in 31 league games.

So no, Edgar hasn't improved us as far as I can tell. The defence is worse than last season.

 

[alcoblade]

Ime sure Adkins could have torpedoed that if a deal had been struck,he did also go back to derby to request an extention to end of
season amazingly!!!

If a deal's signed then it's signed - how can the manager torpedo it? I think the parent club / PFA might have a small objection.

The deal, AFAIK, was always a season long loan. When did Adkins extend it, because I don't believe he did?

As pointed out elsewhere, there's plenty to go at to criticise the club and manager for - there's no need to be inventing new ways. You'll be picking on the fact that he uses players nicknames next.

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[alcoblade]

October (I think) in response to Phipps' rant blaming Clough for signing players.

Adkins backed this up blaming the legacy for the big squad and the shit results

Adkins, perfectly correctly, complained about the size of the squad. Was he wrong to do that?

I'll grant you Phipps had a cheek being as he was part of that regime.

If Adkins wasn't critical of what had gone before, (creating a huge imbalanced squad of bang average players, undeniably?), we should be more worried.

Your objectivity is a bit lost of late, Swizzler

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[Patrick Suffaux]

?? What's your problem??

I think he was referring to the lack of spacing between what would be paragraphs. It's not a big deal but for posts that long it just makes it easier to read.

At a glance some reasonable points made but I had a migraine just looking at it. Gave up after a few lines.

 

[finlaytheblade]

If a deal's signed then it's signed - how can the manager torpedo it? I think the parent club / PFA might have a small objection.

The deal, AFAIK, was always a season long loan. When did Adkins extend it, because I don't believe he did?

As pointed out elsewhere, there's plenty to go at to criticise the club and manager for - there's no need to be inventing ne ways. You'll be picking on the fact that he uses players nicknames next.

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I read somewhere Alcoblade that Adkins did request to keep him as there was a review at Xmas and I think the same applied with Edgar
I don't think Sammon was a clough signing he showed interest yes but he had gone before any deals were done for this season ime sure the club wouldn't allow him to do a deal so early in the summer when he wasn't sure to be the manager this season.

 

[alcoblade]

I read somewhere Alcoblade that Adkins did request to keep him as there was a review at Xmas and I think the same applied with Edgar
I don't think Sammon was a clough signing he showed interest yes but he had gone before any deals were done for this season ime sure the club wouldn't allow him to do a deal so early in the summer when he wasn't sure to be the manager this season.

I think there was more business done that you'd like. Clough was fired at the death - having already released players who would otherwise have been looked at. Note that Sammon came from Derby's 5th team - Clough and Brannigan's comfort zone.

And the deal was always a year long loan.

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[Pittsburg Blade]

You're OK with the double colon situation then?

you mean like in the Human Centipede?

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

I read somewhere Alcoblade that Adkins did request to keep him as there was a review at Xmas and I think the same applied with Edgar
I don't think Sammon was a clough signing he showed interest yes but he had gone before any deals were done for this season ime sure the club wouldn't allow him to do a deal so early in the summer when he wasn't sure to be the manager this season.

Sammon was signed on a season-long loan:

http://www.sufc.co.uk/news/article/sheffield-united-conor-sammon-billy-sharp-2571229.aspx

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

NA signings are only one part of my concerns over is management record so far, with the rebuild required his eye for a player fills me with trepidation. He was quoted in the Star about CS, "Conor is a player we have admired from afar and have monitored his progress since he was at Kilmarnock." So I would assume it was a NA target as CS was at Killie 2008/11.

Read more: http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/billy-sharp-and-conor-sammon-sign-for-sheffield-united-1-7377793#ixzz40WTTsiPA

Well, he wasn't going to say "Sammon? Yeah, he was a done deal before I got here, I think he's a useless twat, but what can you do eh?".

 

[finlaytheblade]

I think he was referring to the lack of spacing between what would be paragraphs. It's not a big deal but for posts that long it just makes it easier to read.

At a glance some reasonable points made but I had a migraine just looking at it. Gave up after a few lines.

Ok

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

Sammon was signed after he arrived at the club. I'd suggest that means he accepted the signing and wanted the player.

Not necessarily so. Most football contracts finish at the end of June. There could well have been an agreement in place from April or even May that when it got to June 30th, his new contract would be a year long loan at BDTBL. It could well have been agreed before he got here, then again it might well be his signing. But given the club we were dealing with and who was involved when he signed for Derby, I know what I think.

 

[borbokis]

I read somewhere Alcoblade that Adkins did request to keep him as there was a review at Xmas and I think the same applied with Edgar
I don't think Sammon was a clough signing he showed interest yes but he had gone before any deals were done for this season ime sure the club wouldn't allow him to do a deal so early in the summer when he wasn't sure to be the manager this season.

Perhaps he knew he needed as many options as possible as he wouldn't be getting any more signings until the summer? So it was either send them back and not replace them or keep them and have them at his disposal if needed

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Hammonds not fit to lace Montys boots

Hammond might have his problems - at least he CAN pass a ball to someone in the same coloured shirt.

Nothing whatsoever about Monty's work rate or commitment - couldn't pass wind.

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[nopigfansintown]

He's gone for experienced, loan players, because he couldn't afford the packages/gamble on young players that require transfer fees. He also couldn't bring in players that covered the huge range of positions we needed (Clough wanted seven expensive signings).I think only Woolford looked a bad signing - Sammon wasn't his signing. Hammond used to be a very good player -exactly the type we needed to replace Doyle . Adkins wanted him in the summer, to do a preseason. I'm not sure if its a lack of fitness or that his legs have gone?

 

[nopigfansintown]

Not necessarily so. Most football contracts finish at the end of June. There could well have been an agreement in place from April or even May that when it got to June 30th, his new contract would be a year long loan at BDTBL. It could well have been agreed before he got here, then again it might well be his signing. But given the club we were dealing with and who was involved when he signed for Derby, I know what I think.

I used to work at the club and have it from an unimpeachable source that Sammon was Clough's first signing. Clough wanted another seven players including Andy Williams, Kyle Mcfadzean (both virtually done), Michael Smith, Bennett and Buxton (from Derby), and the Swindon goalkeeper. The board vetoed Clough.

 

[BushBlade]

I used to work at the club and have it from an unimpeachable source that Sammon was Clough's first signing. Clough wanted another seven players including Andy Williams, Kyle Mcfadzean (both virtually done), Michael Smith, Bennett and Buxton (from Derby), and the Swindon goalkeeper. The board vetoed Clough.

Buxton would have been immense, if he's still fit.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Buxton would have been immense, if he's still fit.

We'd have had a great back four and keeper, but the amount of backing he'd have had - to get a team out of the third -, would've been pretty much unprecedented. This was all before the Murphy sale.

 

[BushBlade]

We'd have had a great back four and keeper, but the amount of backing he'd have had - to get a team out of the third -, would've been pretty much unprecedented. This was all before the Murphy sale.

The amount of time we've spent in L1 is unprecedented too. If the Prince wasn't here to spunk enough money to make sure we got promoted, what's the point of him?

 

[SwissBlade]

Adkins, perfectly correctly, complained about the size of the squad. Was he wrong to do that?

I'll grant you Phipps had a cheek being as he was part of that regime.

If Adkins wasn't critical of what had gone before, (creating a huge imbalanced squad of bang average players, undeniably?), we should be more worried.

Your objectivity is a bit lost of late, Swizzler

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Was he or was he not critical of the previous regime? Simple question.

 

[nopigfansintown]

The amount of time we've spent in L1 is unprecedented too. If the Prince wasn't here to spunk enough money to make sure we got promoted, what's the point of him?

Too true. But how much is enough before you'd start questioning who's spending it?

 

[BushBlade]

Too true. But how much is enough before you'd start questioning who's spending it?

I'd rather spend too much than not enough. If you don't spend enough you've wasted money and got nowt. If you spend too much you've wasted money but you've got what you wanted.

 

[Woodwardfan]

NA signings are only one part of my concerns over is management record so far, with the rebuild required his eye for a player fills me with trepidation. He was quoted in the Star about CS, "Conor is a player we have admired from afar and have monitored his progress since he was at Kilmarnock." So I would assume it was a NA target as CS was at Killie 2008/11.

Read more: http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/billy-sharp-and-conor-sammon-sign-for-sheffield-united-1-7377793#ixzz40WTTsiPA

On Wikipedia it says Scunny tried for Sammon years ago when Adkins was there.

 

[Woodwardfan]

I'd rather spend too much than not enough. If you don't spend enough you've wasted money and got nowt. If you spend too much you've wasted money but you've got what you wanted.

Like Brayford and Done? probably Coutts too. At least Brayford is in the team at the moment, by the skin of his teeth by all accounts though.