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Thought I would give a brief view on my day at Old Trafford as a corporate whore!

We arrived at 2.30 to make the most of the free bar and have time for the 5 courses of food. We were laughing at the sheer number of fans / tourists who were already there to take advantage of the many commercial opportunities around old trafford. We suggested that if you arrived 3 hours before kick off at the Lane the only people you would see would be a lady laying out a load of scarfs and badges on a table and a bloke setting up a burger van in the corner of the car park.

We walked up to the ground and received our first pleasantry from a local. One of many half and half scarf sellers tried to sell me his wares as a "souvenir", when I jokingly suggested any real football wouldn't be seen dead in one he aggressively told me to "Fuck off".

We then had a walk around the shopping emporium (superstore), relatively quickly my eyes were bleeding at the prices being charged. 80 quid for a shirt, boy oh boy those are one set of gullible fans. We were laughing that as we pay by the letter for names on shirts, how on earth does Mata cost the same as Schweinsteiger!

We then wandered up to the Gallery restaurant to partake of our 5 courses. I have to say the food was excellent and the service very good. It is the first time I have been provided with a flask of coffee to take to my seat. We had excellent seats on the corner of the Fergie Stand just to the right of the Blades Fans (as you looked at the pitch).

I have to say you did us proud, bollocks to any glory hunters who say otherwise, for 96 minutes you out sang 60 odd thousand plastic grumbling fans.

I Thought we had a Blade behind us, it turned out to be a Man Ure fan from Kent with a half and half scarf! (He left with 10 mins to go and missed the goal!)

I enjoyed the game and the more it went on the ore you realised that this was probably the most pedestrian Man Ure side in history, whilst we coped comfortably we were simply sat too deep to effectively turn defence into attack.

We reached half time and stood up to make our way inside for a drink only for the snooty plastic lady behind us to suggest to us that we keep it down in the second half as people were getting annoyed. We had clapped when United defended well and laughed alot as we sang about the shit Billy Sharp. As we said we weren't being loud, we were in the most expensive corporate seats in the ground and if you can't cope with fans from a third division club clapping their team, you need to get a life.

2nd half much of the same and I really thought we were going to get the nil nil. A fantastic effort from all the players. Our host was a Villa Fan who after we described Connor Salmon, perversely went and put a bet on him as first scorer! Even he started to agree with us after about 20 minutes. Fair do's, even Salmon put a great shift in, he just struggles with controlling a ball, heading and passing!

For the last ten minutes we had some numpty in the next row trying to stare my mate out. When 3 of us turned round and returned the favour he suddenly came over all shy. I was quite staggered at the efficiency to empty the ground which started at around 10 minutes before the 90 was up (so 16 minutes missed) added into the prawn sarnie brigade who took 10 minutes to filter back after half time, it tells you all you need to know about those true football connoisseurs! We pissed ourselves at the "Is there a Fire Drill" chant.

Hard to call the penalty from our vantage point, even at the time he seemed to rise to a glorious height before crashing to the ground. Having watched TV, Hammond made contact and the inevitable swan dive followed. True to form the Blades still sang and gave a great ovation to the team.

We made our way back towards the Gallery and credit where it is due had a pleasant chat with one Manchester fan who had talked to us at half time. He was very complimentary about our support, but its hard to feel too sorry for them when they complain about how dire the football is, try swapping places!

The day was nicely finished off for me by Steward number 155. We walked up the steps right next to the Blades fans and as usual there were a few handing out abuse, I waved and gave a thumbs up. This steward looked round at them and turned back saying "Fucking Mongs". So nice to see that political correctness has reached the employees of Manchester.

So to sum up, a great effort by the team but back to the grindstone of league one. The day has totally reinforced my perception of Manchester United, a great big blood sucking monstrosity of a club with, in the main nasty, arrogant plastic fans (bar one exception). If that is what £250 million buys you, you can keep it.

Up the Blades.
 

Being in the Prem means :
Refs biased towards the bigger clubs,
Silly kick off times
Games on Saturday sunday or Monday ( and as a season ticket holder living in Nottingham that's not good)
Extortionate away ticket prizes
Inevitable relegation battle

Let's hope the next time we go up this doesn't happen...
 
As I went to go down the stairs and leave the ground, I put a thumb up to the line of stewards and said "thanks for having us!". They burst out laughing for some reason.

Then I looked up to the top of the stand and there were police trying to separate a group of rather "vocal" Unitedites from rushing to the bemused Man Utd fans in the executive boxes who were gesticulating after the final whistle. Then I got the joke!
 
Being in the Prem means :
Refs biased towards the bigger clubs,
Silly kick off times
Games on Saturday sunday or Monday ( and as a season ticket holder living in Nottingham that's not good)
Extortionate away ticket prizes
Inevitable relegation battle

Let's hope the next time we go up this doesn't happen...
I wouldn't stress over it for a long time!
 
Turns out my blagged corporate jolly consisted of a padded seat and.... well that was it actually. At least I managed to get leathered, and I didn't have to pay for the seat.
 
The day has totally reinforced my perception of Manchester United, a great big blood sucking monstrosity of a club with, in the main nasty, arrogant plastic fans (bar one exception). If that is what £250 million buys you, you can keep it.
Don't agree with that at all and think you're being unfair. I appreciate it might be the bitterness talking but you can't just categorise a whole fanbase like that, I'm sorry. You wouldn't like it done to us. Until you've met and got to know the majority of the Manchester United fans, that statement will always be far fetched and out of order.
 
Thought I would give a brief view on my day at Old Trafford as a corporate whore!

We arrived at 2.30 to make the most of the free bar and have time for the 5 courses of food. We were laughing at the sheer number of fans / tourists who were already there to take advantage of the many commercial opportunities around old trafford. We suggested that if you arrived 3 hours before kick off at the Lane the only people you would see would be a lady laying out a load of scarfs and badges on a table and a bloke setting up a burger van in the corner of the car park.

We walked up to the ground and received our first pleasantry from a local. One of many half and half scarf sellers tried to sell me his wares as a "souvenir", when I jokingly suggested any real football wouldn't be seen dead in one he aggressively told me to "Fuck off".

We then had a walk around the shopping emporium (superstore), relatively quickly my eyes were bleeding at the prices being charged. 80 quid for a shirt, boy oh boy those are one set of gullible fans. We were laughing that as we pay by the letter for names on shirts, how on earth does Mata cost the same as Schweinsteiger!

We then wandered up to the Gallery restaurant to partake of our 5 courses. I have to say the food was excellent and the service very good. It is the first time I have been provided with a flask of coffee to take to my seat. We had excellent seats on the corner of the Fergie Stand just to the right of the Blades Fans (as you looked at the pitch).

I have to say you did us proud, bollocks to any glory hunters who say otherwise, for 96 minutes you out sang 60 odd thousand plastic grumbling fans.

I Thought we had a Blade behind us, it turned out to be a Man Ure fan from Kent with a half and half scarf! (He left with 10 mins to go and missed the goal!)

I enjoyed the game and the more it went on the ore you realised that this was probably the most pedestrian Man Ure side in history, whilst we coped comfortably we were simply sat too deep to effectively turn defence into attack.

We reached half time and stood up to make our way inside for a drink only for the snooty plastic lady behind us to suggest to us that we keep it down in the second half as people were getting annoyed. We had clapped when United defended well and laughed alot as we sang about the shit Billy Sharp. As we said we weren't being loud, we were in the most expensive corporate seats in the ground and if you can't cope with fans from a third division club clapping their team, you need to get a life.

2nd half much of the same and I really thought we were going to get the nil nil. A fantastic effort from all the players. Our host was a Villa Fan who after we described Connor Salmon, perversely went and put a bet on him as first scorer! Even he started to agree with us after about 20 minutes. Fair do's, even Salmon put a great shift in, he just struggles with controlling a ball, heading and passing!

For the last ten minutes we had some numpty in the next row trying to stare my mate out. When 3 of us turned round and returned the favour he suddenly came over all shy. I was quite staggered at the efficiency to empty the ground which started at around 10 minutes before the 90 was up (so 16 minutes missed) added into the prawn sarnie brigade who took 10 minutes to filter back after half time, it tells you all you need to know about those true football connoisseurs! We pissed ourselves at the "Is there a Fire Drill" chant.

Hard to call the penalty from our vantage point, even at the time he seemed to rise to a glorious height before crashing to the ground. Having watched TV, Hammond made contact and the inevitable swan dive followed. True to form the Blades still sang and gave a great ovation to the team.

We made our way back towards the Gallery and credit where it is due had a pleasant chat with one Manchester fan who had talked to us at half time. He was very complimentary about our support, but its hard to feel too sorry for them when they complain about how dire the football is, try swapping places!

The day was nicely finished off for me by Steward number 155. We walked up the steps right next to the Blades fans and as usual there were a few handing out abuse, I waved and gave a thumbs up. This steward looked round at them and turned back saying "Fucking Mongs". So nice to see that political correctness has reached the employees of Manchester.

So to sum up, a great effort by the team but back to the grindstone of league one. The day has totally reinforced my perception of Manchester United, a great big blood sucking monstrosity of a club with, in the main nasty, arrogant plastic fans (bar one exception). If that is what £250 million buys you, you can keep it.

Up the Blades.
The big question...Were you allowed to wear a Blades replica shirt?
 
Don't agree with that at all and think you're being unfair. I appreciate it might be the bitterness talking but you can't just categorise a whole fanbase like that, I'm sorry. You wouldn't like it done to us. Until you've met and got to know the majority of the Manchester United fans, that statement will always be far fetched and out of order.


I think it is you who are very wrong. Manchester United has surfed for the best part of three decades on the machinations of a gifted, mercurial manager, some absolute quality personnel out there on the green stuff and a fucking monstrous articulation of financial clout, media adoration and bled-into fandom. Everywhere I went in the Royal Navy there were Man U shirts of all hues and years. Every messdeck was spacked with 'ManYoo fans' many of whom had never fucking seen them play with just fresh air between their 'idols' and themselves, paying sixty sheets for a restricted view, if they'd bothered. It was like the bubonic plague. Ranged against it (on my last ship for example) were the odd Southend United, Carlisle, Chester City and a fanatical, Greenwich Blade-style Swindon fan, who would move heaven and earth to attend games. And adopted Pompey fans who were not from the region, but had to have someone to cheer on, and that someone wasn't 'ManYoo'.

But the Man United fans were the fucking worst. Absolutely no appreciation of the game outside of the big four (as it was) and total lauding of Beckham like he was fucking god almighty himself. And that worship stretched to buying their kids 'BECKHAM' Man U shirts and kits and having posters of the team they never saw on their lockers and bunks. They basically supported the best team in the land because it was a better feeling than hedging your bets on teams like Sheffield United. That mentality permeates into the fans who now populate the 70 odd thousand at OT these days. No passionate singing and chanting (why bother? They'll win anyway and I'll waste energy) so out goes 'team songs' and 'match banter'. And that is EXCACTLY why the stuck up plastics get on the supporters backs and see our lot as freaks and weirdoes.

So, y'know. You're wrong. The majority of Man U supporters are shit. And they know they are.

pommpey
 
I think it is you who are very wrong. Manchester United has surfed for the best part of three decades on the machinations of a gifted, mercurial manager, some absolute quality personnel out there on the green stuff and a fucking monstrous articulation of financial clout, media adoration and bled-into fandom. Everywhere I went in the Royal Navy there were Man U shirts of all hues and years. Every messdeck was spacked with 'ManYoo fans' many of whom had never fucking seen them play with just fresh air between their 'idols' and themselves, paying sixty sheets for a restricted view, if they'd bothered. It was like the bubonic plague. Ranged against it (on my last ship for example) were the odd Southend United, Carlisle, Chester City and a fanatical, Greenwich Blade-style Swindon fan, who would move heaven and earth to attend games. And adopted Pompey fans who were not from the region, but had to have someone to cheer on, and that someone wasn't 'ManYoo'.

But the Man United fans were the fucking worst. Absolutely no appreciation of the game outside of the big four (as it was) and total lauding of Beckham like he was fucking god almighty himself. And that worship stretched to buying their kids 'BECKHAM' Man U shirts and kits and having posters of the team they never saw on their lockers and bunks. They basically supported the best team in the land because it was a better feeling than hedging your bets on teams like Sheffield United. That mentality permeates into the fans who now populate the 70 odd thousand at OT these days. No passionate singing and chanting (why bother? They'll win anyway and I'll waste energy) so out goes 'team songs' and 'match banter'. And that is EXCACTLY why the stuck up plastics get on the supporters backs and see our lot as freaks and weirdoes.

So, y'know. You're wrong. The majority of Man U supporters are shit. And they know they are.

pommpey
There are too many plastic Man U fans, we all know that, but categorisation of the proportion as far as labelling them nasty and arrogant shows a distinct lack of intelligence and awareness.
 
There are too many plastic Man U fans, we all know that, but categorisation of the proportion as far as labelling them nasty and arrogant shows a distinct lack of intelligence and awareness.

Really? I watched it online, and all I could hear was GCB, 'Shall we sing a song for you?' and 'Shit Billy Sharp' and when we got a corner, 'United!'

From the plastics?

Nothing.

You tell me who the better set of supporters are? Us ... starved of the glitter and warmth of global adoration but still resolute and faithful or them, miserably crying into their Earl Grey as shitbox Sheffield United make them look very ordinary whilst listening to some football supporters cheering on their team.

They may not be 'nasty' in large parts. But 'arrogant' and add 'deluded' and you are nearer the mark.

pommpey
 
Really? I watched it online, and all I could hear was GCB, 'Shall we sing a song for you?' and 'Shit Billy Sharp' and when we got a corner, 'United!'

From the plastics?

Nothing.

You tell me who the better set of supporters are? Us ... starved of the glitter and warmth of global adoration but still resolute and faithful or them, miserably crying into their Earl Grey as shitbox Sheffield United make them look very ordinary whilst listening to some football supporters cheering on their team.

They may not be 'nasty' in large parts. But 'arrogant' and add 'deluded' and you are nearer the mark.

pommpey
I'm not going against the fact that our fans were brilliant. They always are, but that wasn't the point. I was rubbishing an idiotic claim that the majority of the Man Utd fans are arrogant and nasty. Unless you've met and got to know the majority of their fan base, that can't be true and is thus unfair and out of order. It's 100% fact, there's no arguing against it I'm afraid.
 

I think it is you who are very wrong. Manchester United has surfed for the best part of three decades on the machinations of a gifted, mercurial manager, some absolute quality personnel out there on the green stuff and a fucking monstrous articulation of financial clout, media adoration and bled-into fandom. Everywhere I went in the Royal Navy there were Man U shirts of all hues and years. Every messdeck was spacked with 'ManYoo fans' many of whom had never fucking seen them play with just fresh air between their 'idols' and themselves, paying sixty sheets for a restricted view, if they'd bothered. It was like the bubonic plague. Ranged against it (on my last ship for example) were the odd Southend United, Carlisle, Chester City and a fanatical, Greenwich Blade-style Swindon fan, who would move heaven and earth to attend games. And adopted Pompey fans who were not from the region, but had to have someone to cheer on, and that someone wasn't 'ManYoo'.

But the Man United fans were the fucking worst. Absolutely no appreciation of the game outside of the big four (as it was) and total lauding of Beckham like he was fucking god almighty himself. And that worship stretched to buying their kids 'BECKHAM' Man U shirts and kits and having posters of the team they never saw on their lockers and bunks. They basically supported the best team in the land because it was a better feeling than hedging your bets on teams like Sheffield United. That mentality permeates into the fans who now populate the 70 odd thousand at OT these days. No passionate singing and chanting (why bother? They'll win anyway and I'll waste energy) so out goes 'team songs' and 'match banter'. And that is EXCACTLY why the stuck up plastics get on the supporters backs and see our lot as freaks and weirdoes.

So, y'know. You're wrong. The majority of Man U supporters are shit. And they know they are.

pommpey
Unfortunately Pomp ,when you go to the Exec boxes of most clubs (including some of our own) they tend to contain these type of wankers and freeloaders (soz cave :) ) I have been in several and only enjoyed it once ,even when I hired one myself. You can instantly tell the difference between the regulars (like Brian the braindead) and the guests (like cave) . Not the way to watch football for me and I have turned down more than Ive been to. I once had an entire end at Molineaux going barmy at me when Michael Tonge scored our 3rd after being 1-0 down ,my host got into a bit of trouble but I couldn't help it. Met Brownie ,Shaun Murphy and Paddy after ,Nathan Blake was a prick but he was playing for them. That was my most enjoyable ,the rest you can keep.
 
Only time I was sat in an exec box was when we played Huddersfield at Wembley (I won't remind you of the score).
Everyone else in my box was not a regular match-goer. I think they were sales reps for some energy drink or something. When it went to penalties, some bloke kept wanting to high-5 me every time one of ours went in! Nice enough chap, but not the done thing and it did make me feel awkward.:confused:
 
Unfortunately Pomp ,when you go to the Exec boxes of most clubs (including some of our own) they tend to contain these type of wankers and freeloaders (soz cave :) ) I have been in several and only enjoyed it once ,even when I hired one myself. You can instantly tell the difference between the regulars (like Brian the braindead) and the guests (like cave) . Not the way to watch football for me and I have turned down more than Ive been to. I once had an entire end at Molineaux going barmy at me when Michael Tonge scored our 3rd after being 1-0 down ,my host got into a bit of trouble but I couldn't help it. Met Brownie ,Shaun Murphy and Paddy after ,Nathan Blake was a prick but he was playing for them. That was my most enjoyable ,the rest you can keep.

And strangely enough, I'm up in god's country (first time in 3 years) at the end of March. My mate has asked if we should book a table for the Walsall game. I'm looking forward to it to be honest. But I expect to be singing and cheering not tutting and those who do.

pommpey
 
Thought I would give a brief view on my day at Old Trafford as a corporate whore!

We arrived at 2.30 to make the most of the free bar and have time for the 5 courses of food. We were laughing at the sheer number of fans / tourists who were already there to take advantage of the many commercial opportunities around old trafford. We suggested that if you arrived 3 hours before kick off at the Lane the only people you would see would be a lady laying out a load of scarfs and badges on a table and a bloke setting up a burger van in the corner of the car park.

We walked up to the ground and received our first pleasantry from a local. One of many half and half scarf sellers tried to sell me his wares as a "souvenir", when I jokingly suggested any real football wouldn't be seen dead in one he aggressively told me to "Fuck off".

We then had a walk around the shopping emporium (superstore), relatively quickly my eyes were bleeding at the prices being charged. 80 quid for a shirt, boy oh boy those are one set of gullible fans. We were laughing that as we pay by the letter for names on shirts, how on earth does Mata cost the same as Schweinsteiger!

We then wandered up to the Gallery restaurant to partake of our 5 courses. I have to say the food was excellent and the service very good. It is the first time I have been provided with a flask of coffee to take to my seat. We had excellent seats on the corner of the Fergie Stand just to the right of the Blades Fans (as you looked at the pitch).

I have to say you did us proud, bollocks to any glory hunters who say otherwise, for 96 minutes you out sang 60 odd thousand plastic grumbling fans.

I Thought we had a Blade behind us, it turned out to be a Man Ure fan from Kent with a half and half scarf! (He left with 10 mins to go and missed the goal!)

I enjoyed the game and the more it went on the ore you realised that this was probably the most pedestrian Man Ure side in history, whilst we coped comfortably we were simply sat too deep to effectively turn defence into attack.

We reached half time and stood up to make our way inside for a drink only for the snooty plastic lady behind us to suggest to us that we keep it down in the second half as people were getting annoyed. We had clapped when United defended well and laughed alot as we sang about the shit Billy Sharp. As we said we weren't being loud, we were in the most expensive corporate seats in the ground and if you can't cope with fans from a third division club clapping their team, you need to get a life.

2nd half much of the same and I really thought we were going to get the nil nil. A fantastic effort from all the players. Our host was a Villa Fan who after we described Connor Salmon, perversely went and put a bet on him as first scorer! Even he started to agree with us after about 20 minutes. Fair do's, even Salmon put a great shift in, he just struggles with controlling a ball, heading and passing!

For the last ten minutes we had some numpty in the next row trying to stare my mate out. When 3 of us turned round and returned the favour he suddenly came over all shy. I was quite staggered at the efficiency to empty the ground which started at around 10 minutes before the 90 was up (so 16 minutes missed) added into the prawn sarnie brigade who took 10 minutes to filter back after half time, it tells you all you need to know about those true football connoisseurs! We pissed ourselves at the "Is there a Fire Drill" chant.

Hard to call the penalty from our vantage point, even at the time he seemed to rise to a glorious height before crashing to the ground. Having watched TV, Hammond made contact and the inevitable swan dive followed. True to form the Blades still sang and gave a great ovation to the team.

We made our way back towards the Gallery and credit where it is due had a pleasant chat with one Manchester fan who had talked to us at half time. He was very complimentary about our support, but its hard to feel too sorry for them when they complain about how dire the football is, try swapping places!

The day was nicely finished off for me by Steward number 155. We walked up the steps right next to the Blades fans and as usual there were a few handing out abuse, I waved and gave a thumbs up. This steward looked round at them and turned back saying "Fucking Mongs". So nice to see that political correctness has reached the employees of Manchester.

So to sum up, a great effort by the team but back to the grindstone of league one. The day has totally reinforced my perception of Manchester United, a great big blood sucking monstrosity of a club with, in the main nasty, arrogant plastic fans (bar one exception). If that is what £250 million buys you, you can keep it.

Up the Blades.
Can I come too? Next time.
 
It's 100% fact, there's no arguing against it I'm afraid.

D'you know. The hallmark of people who can't debate properly and who have no substance to an argument is shit like you post above.

I watch people set into you on here and in some cases I feel sorry for you. Everyone has their point of view and you are entitled to it. But when you try to shut down debate saying 'it's the end of the argument' it is indicative why you get so much shit and my sympathy ends, right there.

Let me correct you. You believe that. I think you are wrong and disagree and provide my own examples why I think so. You just say 'it's 100% fact'.

Really? You sure about that?

pommpey
 
D'you know. The hallmark of people who can't debate properly and who have no substance to an argument is shit like you post above.

I watch people set into you on here and in some cases I feel sorry for you. Everyone has their point of view and you are entitled to it. But when you try to shut down debate saying 'it's the end of the argument' it is indicative why you get so much shit and my sympathy ends, right there.

Let me correct you. You believe that. I think you are wrong and disagree and provide my own examples why I think so. You just say 'it's 100% fact'.

Really? You sure about that?

pommpey
First two paragraphs are nothing really and have nothing to do with the point in hand. Deflective? Maybe.

About the 100% - It is, and I am sure. How can you be certain of the characteristics of the majority of a fanbase when you haven't met and got to know that majority? It is 100% impossible. Yes opinions and all that, but It's just out and out stupidity to even attempt to argue against that.
 
And strangely enough, I'm up in god's country (first time in 3 years) at the end of March. My mate has asked if we should book a table for the Walsall game. I'm looking forward to it to be honest. But I expect to be singing and cheering not tutting and those who do.

pommpey
Don't do it ,sat behind glass with piped cheers and boos through the sound system ,I lasted 20 minutes against Crewe once and asked to go outside :)
 
First two paragraphs are nothing really and have nothing to do with the point in hand. Deflective? Maybe.

About the 100% - It is, and I am sure. How can you be certain of the characteristics of the majority of a fanbase when you haven't met and got to know that majority? It is 100% impossible. Yes opinions and all that, but It's just out and out stupidity to even attempt to argue against that.

Again, I disagree. I have given you an indication of the Manchester United fans I encountered in the Royal Navy, who vastly outnumbered any other fans. Wherever I went around the world, I was faced with the same blind adoration and supposed allegiance to a football club. So, for your 100% certainty, I'd say 100% assumption and not in any way a basis for you to close the argument authoritatively in the manner you do. You cannot state '100%'. You don't know every Man United fan on planet earth, what their reference points are, their allegiances and their measure of dedication. To state thus is ridiculous.

Well done for depleting your sympathy base by one more. I'll enjoy watching you bitterly complain you are being 'picked on'.

pommpey
 
Again, I disagree. I have given you an indication of the Manchester United fans I encountered in the Royal Navy, who vastly outnumbered any other fans. Wherever I went around the world, I was faced with the same blind adoration and supposed allegiance to a football club. So, for your 100% certainty, I'd say 100% assumption and not in any way a basis for you to close the argument authoritatively in the manner you do. You cannot state '100%'. You don't know every Man United fan on planet earth, what their reference points are, their allegiances and their measure of dedication. To state thus is ridiculous.

Well done for depleting your sympathy base by one more. I'll enjoy watching you bitterly complain you are being 'picked on'.

pommpey
You aren't even worth replying to beyond this post. And so I won't be.

I'm sorry but a few encounters in the Navy is a little water drop in the ocean, as much as you might think you've got a reliable handle on the demographics from it. It is 100% impossible for you to know the majority of the Man Utd fans, therefore it is unfair to assume that all of that majority are nasty and arrogant. Two facts written in stone.

Yes I am closing the debate. And yes I am being authoritative. There is nothing more to be discussed.
 
You aren't even worth replying to beyond this post. And so I won't be.

I'm sorry but a few encounters in the Navy is a little water drop in the ocean, as much as you might think you've got a reliable handle on the demographics from it. It is 100% impossible for you to know the majority of the Man Utd fans, therefore it is unfair to assume that all of that majority are nasty and arrogant. Two facts written in stone.

Yes I am closing the debate. And yes I am being authoritative. There is nothing more to be discussed.

It's like he's basing an argument on little or no evidence, you do right to ignore him. :)
 
You aren't even worth replying to beyond this post. And so I won't be.

I'm sorry but a few encounters in the Navy is a little water drop in the ocean, as much as you might think you've got a reliable handle on the demographics from it. It is 100% impossible for you to know the majority of the Man Utd fans, therefore it is unfair to assume that all of that majority are nasty and arrogant. Two facts written in stone.

Yes I am closing the debate. And yes I am being authoritative. There is nothing more to be discussed.
you really do have keyboard aspergers don't you
 

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