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[1888to1889]

just a quickie chaps,listening to RS over the last couple of nights to all the the great comments made about Blades legend Alan Hodgekinson from both sides of the city.i got thinking.
A few callers of later years spoke of how their father would take them one week to the lane and the following week to swilsbrough,my father inlaw being one of them but all had an allegiance to one club and their kids then supported that club
So my questions are
1 does this happen today
2 when did all the hatred start between the fans
3 is there any blade out there that can honestly say they have no close family or friend who isn't a pig

 

[bornablade]

No idea about questions(1) and (2) but this is one Blade who does not have a family member or friend from the other side.

 

[Jonboy60]

1. Doubt it. ( I did early 60s ).
2. For me, when I was old enough to make a personal choice.
3. Older brother was a pig, younger brother was a pig, middle brother and 2 sisters blades.

 

[1888to1889]

No idea about questions(1) and (2) but this is one Blade who does not have a family member or friend from the other side.

I will be honest bornablade I didn't think that any blade would give a answer like that , not nocking you just thought that we all had pigs as either family or friends somewhere in the back ground

 

[1888to1889]

1. Doubt it. ( I did early 60s ).
2. For me, when I was old enough to make a personal choice.
3. Older brother was a pig, younger brother was a pig, middle brother and 2 sisters blades.

Mixed bag pal bet it's murder at the mo

 

[Rodley]

One member of family and one friend and that's two too many for me.

 

[Tyler Durden]

1) No way it happens today, although I know of a lot of older fans who chose United as a result of being taken to see both teams, I've never heard of it happening the other way around though.

2) A degree of hatred was there from the start. Early derby games sometimes resulted in players jumping into the crowd to fight the punters. Wednesday had an elitist, dismissive attitude towards the other local Sheffield sides in the 19th century, and the followers of these teams became the first Unitedites.

3) Some of my dearest friends are Pigs, except they aren't as deluded or arrogant as most of them.

 

[Woodwardfan]

One of my best mates is a Wednesdayite, not a "pig".

Nobody called each other "pigs" back in the 60's or 70's as I remember, not to my knowledge anyway. Can't think when it started and I'd never use the name personally.

Tribalism is primitive. Using the term "hatred" is primitive.

In the mid-60's we schoolpals went as a mixed group to both grounds if we weren't travelling to away games. Open invitation to each from good mates.

Each to their own.

 

[mosbolad]

just a quickie chaps,listening to RS over the last couple of nights to all the the great comments made about Blades legend Alan Hodgekinson from both sides of the city.i got thinking.
A few callers of later years spoke of how their father would take them one week to the lane and the following week to swilsbrough,my father inlaw being one of them but all had an allegiance to one club and their kids then supported that club
So my questions are
1 does this happen today
2 when did all the hatred start between the fans
3 is there any blade out there that can honestly say they have no close family or friend who isn't a pig

I've heard this so many times about supporting your own team when at home and going to the other ground when they were away, that it's probably true. One woman said she went to the Blades when Wednedsnsndesdnaday were away as she could see the scores as they otherwise weren't available unlike now of course.

Maybe it was a much cheaper day out than it is now, or maybe as no-one or very few had cars away ground visits just weren't that easy (or relatively easy) options that they are today.

Whatever the reason, as I say, I've heard it so many times from older folk that you have to assume that's what they did. It all seems a bit alien to me but I must say it does seem a lot more civilised than the hatred loathing disdain of the 'other' club.

 

[zablade]

My dad a passionate Unitedite went to both grounds most weeks with his United and Wednesday supporting mates all through the 50's they used to have a laugh and joke at each other's misfortunes on the pitch, he said it lasted until the early 60a when the hooligan element that came about made it impossible.

 

[Jonboy60]

Mixed bag pal bet it's murder at the mo

only when we meet up.which is not very often, as I'm living down south.

 

[Keef Chedwyn]

All my mates are Pig fans. I Blade alone. I don't give a fuck. I'm epic.

 

[metalblade]

At junior school in the 60's we were given free tickets for both so one week we would be at the lane and the other at swine cottage. At that time both teams were in the top half of the Old First Division but United were the footballing team. The pigs were more long ball kick and run, by this time I was a Unitedite (probably due to Dad who would go to the lane every week and called that lot cheats due to match fixing) and took huge delight if that lot happened to lose, I always found the sty to be a cold depressing place and still detest it to this day, I last went there for the Zenith Data cup after the disaster but I can't bring myself to go there again for a derby game, I think it is a horrible place that needs bulldozing.

 

[finlaytheblade]

Ironically the hatred seemed to creep in during the time hodgy was around as a player (nothing to do with him of course he was a real gentlemen) ,as a school boy and teenager I used to go to Bramall lane and Hillsborough with friends of mine both owls and blades .
We used to mix at Derby games (no segregation at that time)that's how it should be,it saddens me when I witness the segregation that
is needed today.I just cannot understand why fans of opposing teams have to hate each other,without fans there would be no professional
football so it is illogical really.
I remember one derby at the lane and wednesday beat us 1-0 my wed pals mobbed me no malice just good fun!! Could you imagine that
today comaradry has gone ,"but we are all football fans ant we". so sad.

 

[FTPE]

I have a lot of pig mates, I hate them in a special kind of way.

 

[Lane Ender]

One of my best mates is a Wednesdayite, not a "pig".

Nobody called each other "pigs" back in the 60's or 70's as I remember, not to my knowledge anyway. Can't think when it started and I'd never use the name personally.

Tribalism is primitive. Using the term "hatred" is primitive.

In the mid-60's we schoolpals went as a mixed group to both grounds if we weren't travelling to away games. Open invitation to each from good mates.

Each to their own.

Best of luck to them at Cardiff
Like fuck!

 

[Gee]

My dad, uncles and cousins are all Wednesday fans and used to take me with them to the games, all my family are from that end of town, so it's understandable I suppose. All my mates were and are blades and we're all Heeley born and bred.
My dad would never give me any money to go with my mates to Bramall lane as he wasn't giving that shit his money he used to say, so I would go to the game after halftime when they opened the Un-manned security gates so you could just walk in to the ground for free this was usually the old John Street stand.
I used to go to Heeley Bank School and watch the blades train all the time on the Ball Inn field and loved the blades, which my dad didn't like and I totally hated Wednesday and as mi dad used to force me to go and watch them, I hated them even more.
We used to have a kick about all the time on the Ball Inn when Phil Bennets dad was the caretaker on there. I used to think Alex Sabella was great as he used to be brilliant with us kids and have a good laugh and a joke with us, as well as giving us some good free football coaching, legend!

 

[dublin 10 blade]

Mam , dad , and younger brother where all "pigs" , and while I can count on one hand , and with 2 fingers the amount of time I've gone to watch them with old mates of mine , had to many run ins with the pigs none of which I started.
I too could never understand the hatred between the 2 clubs when you would know most of them.
However when going to my first away match on my own , got clipped by a pig old enough to be my dad in pond St ,
The reverse fixture after Boxing Day when they invaded our Kop .
But what put the tin hat on it was when coming home to watch United , walking out of Midland train station with a Blades patch on my coat , 3 pigs came over to me and spat on it , so while I slapped him , his mates jumped me and got a bit of a ragging , so excuse me while I say fuck em .
UTB . FTP.

 

[Zlatan]

Maybe people went to both grounds back then because there wasn't much else to do? One of the callers on the radio a few nights ago also mentioned that it was the only way to find out the scores from the other games including that of your own team.

With all the options youngsters have now such as TV, computers, cinema and Meadowhall etc they probably don't pester their parents to take them to the football like they did in the old days.

 

[davidpinder]

3. Older brother was a pig, younger brother was a pig, middle brother and 2 sisters blades.

Expensive christmas

 

[vorpal blade]

Though its complicated, isn't question 3 a double-negative?

"3 is there any blade out there that can honestly say they have no close family or friend who isn't a pig "

So surely the honest answer for nearly all of us who DO have Blades as friends or family members is NO. Because None of us are the only Blade in otherwise 100% Wednesday supporting families AND don't have any friends who are Blades?

 

[cahill]

I didn't grow up in Sheffield but still chose to support the Blades as a child so I didn't have the dilemma of alternating grounds. I had family and friends who were mad Leeds supporters in the 1960's and one family I know offered to take me to Leeds matches and pay for my match day ticket so that I could keep their son company. I was never tempted. That said I used to go all over watching football, all the Yorkshire clubs ( including Wednesday) and well beyond.

Times have changed and I only ever watch United now, various reasons, money, inconvenience. I've not been to Hillsborough since Asaba and Suffo gave us a 2-1 win some years ago and will never set foot in that ground again unless United are playing

 

[Jonboy60]

Expensive christmas

Not really, fuck the pigs.

 

[stringjunior]

3 is there any blade out there that can honestly say they have no close family or friend who isn't a pig

mrsstringjunior is a supporter of a team in Sheffield who wear different colours to the blades. She's far from a pig though

 

[Cyprus Blade]

1 Never went near Hillsboro apart from derbies (except to support Man City once when the pigs got relegated)
2 Never liked them -
3 One remote pig - cousin's boyfriend ( former pig goalie's son)

 

[Silent Blade]

Times have changed and I only ever watch United now, various reasons, money, inconvenience. I've not been to Hillsborough since Asaba and Suffo gave us a 2-1 win some years ago and will never set foot in that ground again unless United are playing

D'Jaffo not Suffo

 

[Bert]

Maybe people went to both grounds back then because there wasn't much else to do? One of the callers on the radio a few nights ago also mentioned that it was the only way to find out the scores from the other games including that of your own team.

With all the options youngsters have now such as TV, computers, cinema and Meadowhall etc they probably don't pester their parents to take them to the football like they did in the old days.

Perfectly true that people went to both grounds to get the scores and because there was nowt much else to do. Bert did it in the late 60's for a couple of years before he started to go to most of United's aways.

 

[Silent Blade]

When I started following football in 1970, I watched all Blades league home games that year apart from Carlisle (13th March) due to flu and Swindon (21st August) due to family holiday, I also watched Chesterfield (5) and Wendy home games (7). after my second Blades away game at Birmingham in October 1970 I started going to more away matches rather than go to Saltergate or S6

 

[cahill]

D'Jaffo not Suffo

Ay thank you.

 

[cahill]

When I started following football in 1970, I watched all Blades league home games that year apart from Carlisle (13th March) due to flu and Swindon (21st August) due to family holiday, I also watched Chesterfield (5) and Wendy home games (7). after my second Blades away game at Birmingham in October 1970 I started going to more away matches rather than go to Saltergate or S6

The following season 1971 our first game was Brum away and the late Trevor Hockey scored our winner. I was stationed at RAF Hereford and my best mate was a Birmingham City fan so I used to go to their home games. Hockey, a former Brum player was given stick all through the match but they ended up applauding him