The Klopp impact/the Adkins impact

[Alfreton14Blade]

Just reading this article a bit earlier got me thinking about how I'd pretty much expected a similar impact from Adkins here (at our lowly level, bearing in mind his reputation at this level) to the one that Jurgen Klopp's brought at Liverpool's much more exalted heights of football. The suggestion is that Liverpool might even challenge for the Prem title in this most unpredictable of all seasons.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/dec/03/liverpool-win-premier-league-jurgen-klopp

Tbh, their home form seems to present a problem here, where counterattacking is just not the same option. But even so, Klopp's impact has been seriously impressive so far.

These sentences stood out for me:
"The energy Klopp demands of his players will keep them hassling and harrying opponents to the last, indicative of an underlying refusal to submit. This is a group who clearly know they can always summon a recovery."

Which is a similar ethos to that installed by Pochettino at Spurs. And one that, despite the understandable calls for us to return to a Bassettesque directness amongst all the soul-searching of recent weeks, shows that good, proper, skilful, on-the-deck football can be played with passion, pride & intensity.

Well, Adkins hasn't had the type of impact that Klopp has up to now & he'll have to do it the hard way without the new manager "bounce" expected from him. But that constant "hassling & harrying", that "energy", that "underlying refusal to submit" has got to be put in place, sooner rather than later - surely he had those sorts of attitudes firmly in place at wee Scunthorpe to enable them to succeed against the odds?

 

[UnitedBlade]

Just reading this article a bit earlier got me thinking about how I'd pretty much expected a similar impact from Adkins here (at our lowly level, bearing in mind his reputation at this level) to the one that Jurgen Klopp's brought at Liverpool's much more exalted heights of football. The suggestion is that Liverpool might even challenge for the Prem title in this most unpredictable of all seasons.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/dec/03/liverpool-win-premier-league-jurgen-klopp

Tbh, their home form seems to present a problem here, where counterattacking is just not the same option. But even so, Klopp's impact has been seriously impressive so far.

These sentences stood out for me:
"The energy Klopp demands of his players will keep them hassling and harrying opponents to the last, indicative of an underlying refusal to submit. This is a group who clearly know they can always summon a recovery."

Which is a similar ethos to that installed by Pochettino at Spurs. And one that, despite the understandable calls for us to return to a Bassettesque directness amongst all the soul-searching of recent weeks, shows that good, proper, skilful, on-the-deck football can be played with passion, pride & intensity.

Well, Adkins hasn't had the type of impact that Klopp has up to now & he'll have to do it the hard way without the new manager "bounce" expected from him. But that constant "hassling & harrying", that "energy", that "underlying refusal to submit" has got to be put in place, sooner rather than later - surely he had those sorts of attitudes firmly in place at wee Scunthorpe to enable them to succeed against the odds?

Virtually all of Liverpool's squad are Internationals and athletic. Therefore once Klopp sets the ethos, they have the ability to respond.

Adkins no doubt wants a gegen pressing ethos (so do I) but look what he's working with in our midfielders.

He can only do it by changing the personnel in my view.

 

[HoodedClaw]

I wonder what Klopp's impact would be on our squad, or more pertinently I wonder what impact our squad would have on Klopps philosophy?

 

[Jon Bon]

I wonder what Klopp's impact would be on our squad, or more pertinently I wonder what impact our squad would have on Klopps philosophy?

I think he'd soon be banging Paul Woolhouse's door down demanding sanctuary.

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

I wonder what Klopp's impact would be on our squad, or more pertinently I wonder what impact our squad would have on Klopps philosophy?

Klopp abondoning philosophy for ever.

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

Virtually all of Liverpool's squad are Internationals and athletic. Therefore once Klopp sets the ethos, they have the ability to respond.

Adkins no doubt wants a gegen pressing ethos (so do I) but look what he's working with in our midfielders.

He can only do it by changing the personnel in my view.

Yeah, the much-maligned Hammond maybe provides a glimpse of the sort of energy & harrying we could expect in future from an Adkins midfield?

Admittedly, Adkins has played safe & gone for the tried-&-trusted in Hammond, a Hammond seemingly in decline from his best. But the off-the-ball attitude from Hammond is becoming clearer with each game. He's probably not the solution himself, but I'm beginning to think his attitude will make a difference & he does suggest a pointer to the future.

One thing I did like after the Barnsley game was a photo from just after they'd scored their goal, part of which showed a distraught Hammond with head-in-hands. Just the sort of (Brayfordesque?) attitude we need to be seeing more of in these trying times.

 

[HighfieldBlade]

I was at Anfield last week to watch Liverpool's UEFA match against Bordeaux.

Speaking to the Liverpool fans before the game, it was evident that Klopp had brought with him a sense of renewed vigour and enthusiasm which has resonated with the fans and (so it would seem) is rubbing off on the players, too.

They've got their mojo back, the Kop's being redeveloped, they're gaining in confidence (comfortably won against Man City, the 6-1 drubbing of Southampton last night) and, who knows, they may well be title contenders.

If only we could do the same under Adkins and our squad...

 

[Worksop II]

I wonder what Klopp's impact would be on our squad, or more pertinently I wonder what impact our squad would have on Klopps philosophy?

He would be sat at the Bar with Baxter ..................... popping sumat

 

[Woodwardfan]

Yeah, the much-maligned Hammond maybe provides a glimpse of the sort of energy & harrying we could expect in future from an Adkins midfield?

Admittedly, Adkins has played safe & gone for the tried-&-trusted in Hammond, a Hammond seemingly in decline from his best. But the off-the-ball attitude from Hammond is becoming clearer with each game. He's probably not the solution himself, but I'm beginning to think his attitude will make a difference & he does suggest a pointer to the future.

One thing I did like after the Barnsley game was a photo from just after they'd scored their goal, part of which showed a distraught Hammond with head-in-hands. Just the sort of (Brayfordesque?) attitude we need to be seeing more of in these trying times.

Talking of symbolic body language - look at the celebrations when we scored in the Barnsley game - the players do care FFS. Billy Sharp doing a 3 foot jump and air punch all on his own behind the group hug.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Klopp achieved the same thing at Borussia Dortmund when he took charge in 2008. BVB were in a shoddier position than Liverpool, yet in a short space of time he took them to the pinnacle of German football, surpassing even Bayern for a brief period.
The togetherness in that squad really shone through in good times and not so good times.

In Klopps final season they had an uncharacteristically bad dip in form and were even in the relegation zone for a time. After a bad home defeat, the players went into the stands to personally apologise to the supporters for another capitulation. They were a good squad who weren't performing BUT they at least wanted to succeed and they cared deeply about the club.
Eventually things improved and they finished 7th

This won't happen at Sheffield United. This squad have no such character or spirit, in fact they have nothing about them at all. The only option we have is to get rid and start again.

 

[blade too long]

klopp adkins
whoever

the fact remains you get the best out of what youve got

yes klopp inherited internationals , who were playing their peers
and has got them performing a hundred times better
Adkins has league one players , playing our peers
we dont have to play Chelsea , man city

the point is players can be guided to playing better
at their level
Adkins needs to replicate our cup run form of the last 2 seasons into the league scenario , we can go forward if he does that
Weve shown we are capable of much better performances
weve got to produce a league one Klopp revolution , not a prem one

 

[robbiez666]

It's the difference a manager can make. You could see it at Man City over the last few years. Players like Silva, Aguero, Tevez who are skilful attacking players coming off the pitch completely soaked in sweat. It's not about direct football it's about constantly chasing and harrying and wanting to win.

I see none of that with us.