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Can't argue against that report other than to say it is a bit kind to some of our players in places. I have to say as we are now approaching a third of the way through the season that I am far from impressed with Nigel Adkins, his signings Sharp included have been shockingly poor. While Billy has loads of know how he has lost any pace that he had and loses out every time in a chase, we can all see after today why Millwall let Woolford go and are Sammon and Edgar any better than what we already had. To say we have been chasing Hammond for so long I expected much better the guy is 32 and will be on a decent wage yet he and Basham were more than matched by Millwall's much younger midfield. As a team there is so much wrong that it is hard to know where to start Howard had one of his better games today but oh dear we desperately need a better keeper, the worrying thing is the four in front of him, the full backs are the best of that bunch but they are both poor at times too. Baxter has his critics but he must be wondering what he has to do to get picked ahead of Basham who offers next to nothing in midfield surely Basham has to be moved to CB. I thought we were poor up front today Done didn't look interested at all and was rightly subbed at half time, Adams was moved to the left then to the right but he can't dribble and never seems able to go past a man. Sammon too was played on the left WTF is that all about seems to me however poor Billy is he will never get the hook as he is a Adkins favourite who can do no wrong in the managers eyes and will be persevered with even if it means unbalancing the team to keep him on ..................... any one still saying we wont miss Murphy down the left ? So so frustrating being a Unitedite at the moment :(:(:(:(:(
 



Very disappointing result today after we made such a bright start, far better than v Fleetwood (who won at Barnsley today).

Agree with most of OP but I have to stick up for Collins ( I've just put on my tin hat) who must have defended the ball more than any other player on the pitch and I would estimate he broke up 75% of their attacks (maybe upwards of 17/18 headers away). McGahey was missing most of the game and Collins had to compensate for him. Collins was exposed for their second goal but the player ran at him in the box and he held back on the tackle for fear of giving away a penalty, no excuse I know.

After all the negativity towards him all I'd ask is that those Blades who watch the full match video please make a note of Collins contribution and let us know their opinion .I thought it was immense apart from the second goal.

Of all the comments on here I agree with Deadbat when he says we defend too deep - the biggest single problem in our set-up is the distance between the back 4 and the strikers. Basham and Hammond sit far too deep in that big gap and simply do not cover enough ground. Each section of the team is playing in isolation with far too little support at hand, offensively or defensively. The combination of Basham and Hammond defies credibility, it's a dead area when in possession and neither gets anywhere near the edge of the opposition box if only to pick up clearances never mind support players with the ball - we are at Home for pete's sake! To play 4 at the back and 2 defensively in central midfield and to have such gaping areas between the players is very odd.

Adkins is under pressure now and has to find the right blend before long. We are still 6th and other clubs are dropping points but we have to keep in touch. There is plenty of time but Adkins has to carry along the fans as well as the players; at the moment there are big doubts.

Matt Done worries me. He seems subdued and unhappy. Fellow players are losing patience with the way he plays out wide. I sense a problem. Until Brayford is fit he would be the first name on my team sheet and I'd play him up top either on his own or in partnership with Sharp, Sammon or Adams in that order. Adkins might not appreciate just how good Done is up top, or it might be more convenient for him to play him deeper and play others up top. Adams is a talent but will be inconsistent week in week out in the first team.
 
If that United defence today was to play a high line it would have been defensive suicide. If you lack pace in defence, especially at centre half you've got to defend deep otherwise the opposition will just drop balls over the top with bags of space to exploit. No problem with a defence dropping deep provided they win the first ball and clear their lines.

Got to say I disagree with most on this thread, thought we were much better than Tuesday night and deserved to win this game. It reminded me a lot of the Barnsley home game last season, where we were the much better team but didn't make the most of our opportunities and got caught with the sucker punch.

In the first half I thought we worked some great positions down the right hand side only for the ball into the box not being good enough. Thought Hammond improved on Tuesday and looked like what we we've been after, sitting in midfield getting his tackles and headers in. Also thought Basham did better today but as a few others have said isn't the best foil alongside Hammond, personally I'd go Hammond-Reed with Baxter between them and Sharp.

Bar the two sloppy goals I didn't think Millwall looked like scoring. I did fear the worst when we attacked the Kop in the first half and more so when we didn't convert from the numerous times we got round the side. Those that think Edgar is going to be the answer in defence have obviously forgotten some of his recent performances. I thought it was one of those games today, that said the defence still desperately needs a dominant centre half in the Maguire, Morgan, Stancliffe or Gayle mould.
 
Very disappointing result today after we made such a bright start, far better than v Fleetwood (who won at Barnsley today).

Agree with most of OP but I have to stick up for Collins ( I've just put on my tin hat) who must have defended the ball more than any other player on the pitch and I would estimate he broke up 75% of their attacks (maybe upwards of 17/18 headers away). McGahey was missing most of the game and Collins had to compensate for him. Collins was exposed for their second goal but the player ran at him in the box and he held back on the tackle for fear of giving away a penalty, no excuse I know.

After all the negativity towards him all I'd ask is that those Blades who watch the full match video please make a note of Collins contribution and let us know their opinion .I thought it was immense apart from the second goal.

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Collins does win more headers than any of our other defenders and does put his body on the line but he should only be back up for me. He makes an awful lot of mistakes and has since the day he joined. He has played every league game this season and for me that is a big reason, not the only one, why we concede so many
 
Collins does win more headers than any of our other defenders and does put his body on the line but he should only be back up for me. He makes an awful lot of mistakes and has since the day he joined. He has played every league game this season and for me that is a big reason, not the only one, why we concede so many



Just a bit hard on Collins is that, as none of the various back 4 we have fielded are any better defensively and we have a below average keeper. Collins is still able to play at this level with the right partner I feel sure. Joe Shaw would be tested with this company.

Basham at the back would be an improvement and let's hope Edgar settles down. The Kennedy fitness situation is a tragedy for the lad and us. McEveley is obviously not the answer. Harris might marginally improve things but he's not that good a defender to be honest.

I sincerely hope that we don't end up playing Brayford in central defence like last season.
 
Just a bit hard on Collins is that, as none of the various back 4 we have fielded are any better defensively and we have a below average keeper. Collins is still able to play at this level with the right partner I feel sure. Joe Shaw would be tested with this company.

Basham at the back would be an improvement and let's hope Edgar settles down. The Kennedy fitness situation is a tragedy for the lad and us. McEveley is obviously not the answer. Harris might marginally improve things but he's not that good a defender to be honest.

I sincerely hope that we don't end up playing Brayford in central defence like last season.

I respect your view and do see where you are coming from but for me Collins just smacks of an average League One defender which I suppose is where we are at now. I too fear Brayford being shoehorned in there. He's ok at centre half (better than Collins and McEverley) but he isn't the answer there
 
I respect your view and do see where you are coming from but for me Collins just smacks of an average League One defender which I suppose is where we are at now. I too fear Brayford being shoehorned in there. He's ok at centre half (better than Collins and McEverley) but he isn't the answer there


Thanks Roygbiv, very fair. I expected a slaughtering tonight as Collins seemed to be the scapegoat on this thread.
 
The Blades ended a week where they had three very winnable fixtures by losing at home to Millwall meaning they only acquired 4 points from a possible 9. It was another disappointing performance result from United where they gave away two sloppy goals and could not push on after getting level.


For one of the first times this season, it was an unchanged side as manager Adkins opted to keep the faith with the team that started v Fleetwood despite impressive cameos from Coutts and Baxter.


The game started at a quicker tempo than the midweek game and Millwall had set up with two up front. Millwall won a few early corner and Onyedinma shot wide and the first chance for the home side came as Sharp did well to win the ball and fed Adams who was in on the angle. His shot from just inside the box struck the outside of the post as it went wide. It was a good chance and maybe he should have done better.


Decent play from Campbell Ryce saw Adams then involved again before the cross came over and Basham had a goal bound shot blocked


Millwall had won a few more corners in a relatively even game and they took the lead from a predictable source from a United defensive point of view; a cross and headed goal.


Poor work from United saw the ball not cleared from the corner and Done dithered before Cumming sent over a wicked ball but O’BRIEN still was not challenged and sent in a bullet header that went in via the post. No challenge from either centre back who were arguing vociferously with each other after the goal.


United tried to respond but Done took too long and then Adams was too unselfish for once. Millwall then had another chance as Howard had to push away a Saville shot


Manager Adkins made a change as Baxter came on for the ineffective Done and Adams went wide left with Baxter playing off Sharp.


Millwall had the first chance of the second half when Wallace made a mistake and tried to steal the ball but this led to a break and Onyedinma shot at goal and Howard scooped it over.


Martin was finally booked for a trip on Campbell Ryce after he had committed a number of fouls on the winger.

Sammon came on for Campbell Ryce but was strangely employed on the wing again which seemed to nullify his skills.


The game was slipping away as Millwall continued to really slow things down and United could not break down a tough rearguard. Millwall had defended in numbers but had defended well.


United had not created many chances but Baxter had one but pulled his shot wide. However not long after he made no mistake. Good work from Sharp in the build up saw him find Freeman and he put in a great cross that saw BAXTER smash home an unstoppable finish on the half volley. It was well made and a great finish.

After this you felt United would go on and win and Millwall continued to time waste and slow the play down. However Untied did not seize the game and it was the visitors who scored the all important goal.


Great work from Ferguson saw him sprint down away from the hesitant Collins and he went past him and sent over a tremendous cross that went right across the box.


O’BRIEN sprinted to the ball and beat Wallace and McGahey to it and he struck it and it seemed to go in via Wallace and then the boot of Howard at close range. It was a real smash and grab raid but Millwall now only had 10 minutes to defend their latest lead.


Keeper Archer was finally booked but bizarrely as United tried to make a change. He had been asking for a booking all game for delays on the goal kicks but it was strange to do it at this point.


Flynn came on for Freeman and Collins went up as an emergency striker but the nearest United came was from a Collins header that went tamely wide. Despite all the time wasting there was only an additional four minutes of stoppage time and Millwall coped comfortably with anything United could throw at them.


United – The game I felt was more entertaining than the other night and United were better in some ways than that game but they were up against a far better side. We faced a team that had really worked out how to play us and we struggled to break them down. We did get it forward quicker than the other night but in midfield and the last third we made some dreadful decisions. Never looked like scoring for long spells as we actually either over played, delivered a poor final ball or were quite shot shy. Adams hit the post but then we did little else and they scored a good header. After this we huffed and puffed but again could not remember a chance really until Baxter shot wide and then scored a great goal.


After this as with Bury at home and also Colchester, you think go on and show some real spirit and win it. So what do we do? Toss away another stupid goal and lose it. Same old, same old. We keep picking the same dreadful defenders, have not addressed the soft midfield (even with Hammond – no better than what we had for me) and still are too easy to score against and beat. They did play two up but were playing on the break and just defended, soaked up our poor play and got out and scored two decent goals but absolutely horrible defending. We are conceding 2’s and 3’s at home and that is unacceptable. Why he had not addressed the defence is bewildering?


We did not deserve to lose and was a sucker punch but has happened 3 times at the Lane this season. Our defence is awful. What I will say is that overall despite us having more of the ball and maybe a lot more territory, Millwall actually had more shots (10 and 6 on target) to us (6 and only 1 on target). 1 shot on target – the goal all game. That is not good enough. Howard made 2 or 3 other saves. So sadly stats don’t back up my argument that we deserved at least a draw.


The overall play was too slow again and the tempo was lacking but for a home side you expect more than maybe 2 or 3 chances all game. I can’t remember their keeper having a save to make all game outside of the goal/hit post one. We played into their hands so often as we did not get runners behind or turn the big centre backs playing too much of the ball into strikers’ feet rather than getting them turned.


Overall, it was a game we could have won as easy as lost. Game of few chances but the facts remain. We did not and give away stupid goals. This keeps happening. We are soft as shite. Sorry but that is the reality. We lack that winning mentality and these players for me just don’t get it. We have to wait till we offload many sadly but I will also say that Adkins buys have been a shambles too. So he has to do better in that respect.


Some fans need to realise that this side is very, very unlikely to go up. We are a long way off a top two side and scraping a playoff place might be best we do again and we know what happens there. I heard some fans on forums saying that likes of Gillingham, Walsall, Bury won’t be above us. Someone guaranteed it? Well I tell you what a few of them will be. There will be at least 4 or 5 above us on current form and performances. How many have we now lost? 5 is it, or is 6? Lost three at home. A promotion side does not tend to lose more than 9 or 10 all season at best. Can anyone honestly see this side only losing another 4 or 5 all season? Some of the other sides may lack quality in some respects have some no nonsense defenders and are not the soft, weak bunch of losers that we are. It is a crap division but we are crap and the positions we will be in tonight of around 8th/9th sums up what a pigs ear we are making of it and I am sorry but what a poor job Adkins is doing. He has been lumbered with crap but no one is telling him to pick Collins, McGahey, Howard, Basham (in midfield) etc. I have been really disappointed with his start and his weekly clichés and sound bites are boring. He needs to start sorting it out and fast. I think he needs to be more ruthless with some of the players and stop messing around. Too many are and have been treading water. We are so average it is untrue. We need more hungry, young players like Adams or Done. Not has beens or ageing players that are coming down the leagues like Sammon, Hammond, Edgar, Woolford etc.


Today was really disappointing and a bit of a watermark for me. We had a poor draw at Oldham but got the win in the week and another win today and we would have been 3rd or 4th maybe with a winnable game at Crewe next week. Now we are back out of the playoffs and a long way off the top.


Teams like Wigan, Coventry and Peterborough are on the ascent and putting wins together. I do not see a side at United that looks like they know how to put together a win of results at all. They will continue to get in between results with some wins, a few draws and some defeats. The players are just in a comfort zone. Fans cannot be accused of whingeing and moaning. We are watching the side for the 5th side in League One and we look as far off promotion to me than at any point (save for that disastrous start under Weir) and have the same dire players mostly; joined by more dross, that are just ambling through garbage results with no one taking initiative or grabbing games by the scruff of the neck. Sadly it looks more and more like season six as with no chance of completely rebuilding a side 1-11 mid season, we are stuffed. I don’t think any fan hand on heart can say we look like a promotion side in anyway both in results and performances and the lack of improvement since Adkins took over has been startling. I really thought he would have changed things from the dreary stuff we saw under Clough but other than flashes from Sharp and Adams at times, it has been equally poor to watch and are lower than where we were under Clough.


Millwall – Big, strong, dirty, cynical but organised. In this sense they were the best side we have seen down at the Lane even if they did not really do enough to win the game. However, they played a very good tactical game. Also very good at the back with some big players who were no nonsense. We did not create much and they got two banks of four with little space between them and pressed and harried. United struggled to break a side down for the first time this season. They have always looked like scoring but today they did not really. Millwall conceded a lot of the possession but they just kept their shape and broke when they could with two up front. They won a lot of corners. First half was relatively even but they scored a decent goal with a good cross and header and then did the same with a break and goal. Showed good character to come back from the equaliser as they could have just tried to shut up shop.


They did defend and some of the timewasting was ridiculous but the referee did nothing about it till the end. They did broke when they could even if they did not create many chances. A perfect away performance in many ways. They limited a home side to few chances and scored two good goals. I would say on that performance in terms of the respective defences and physical presence (we have big players but they are weak) they look more likely a promotion side. They probably lack a bit of squad depth and maybe the consistency but will be around the playoffs. I would swap our centre backs for Beevers and Craig. They win headers, are solid and don’t try and overplay. The lad Onyedinma was decent too.


Harris seems to have turned it around after a poor start and as I say I think they will be around the top 6 at the end of the season. They may be better set up away and 1 defeat in 8 backs this up than home where they will have to attack more but if they can turn home form around will continue to rise.



Opponent man of the match : O’Brien. Scored a fine header and then raced forward to get into the box to score the winner. Can’t say fairer than that! He was decent in the game too as he picked off our slow midfielders at times easily. Also felt Morison the striker had a good game. A real handful as he won headers, chased lost causes and was a threat.


Opponent Weak link : The left back Martin was booked and could have had a yellow a lot earlier. He struggled at times and was the one weak link in a good defence.


SUFC Player Ratings – (these may seem low but cannot think of many players who had a good game)


Howard 7/10 – He had little to do but was fine today. No really chance for either goal as he was left badly exposed. He caught some crosses and saved two or three you would expect him to save but had more to do than his opposite number. His distribution was better today I felt too.


Freeman 6.5/10 – His poorest game for some time but he did create the goal with a lovely cross and still one of our better players. Did ok when going forward but at the back he dithered at times and made some poor mistakes when defending.


Wallace 6/10 – Had a really good first half and continued his fine form but second half he struggled. He nearly let them in twice when gambling for the ball and left us exposed as they broke and then on the goal had to get across far quicker when the cross came in. The centre halves were out of position and he has to react. First time I felt he looked out of his depth at times second half and the tricky winger caused him a few problems.


Collins 4.5/10 – An awful player who takes no responsibility for his mistakes. He rants and blames at others and does not do his own job. The first goal I was unsure if it was him or McGahey who lost his man for the header into the goal but he decided to rant and rave at his young partner for several minutes even after the kick off. Aside from this his awful sliced clearances and headers down rather than up (seems to head them up when attacking at corners a lot of the time – bizarre). He also continually asks for the defence to get back and means we defend so deep. On the winner he lost his man ran away from him down the channel and let him get a cross in easily. Noticed he did not try and blame anyone else as he ambled back to the middle with his head down. I am sorry but the fact we have players like him still being regulars is why we are and will be nowhere near the top two again.


McGahey 4.5/10 – As above in a lot of ways. He was slow, clumsy and had no idea what to do when he has the ball. He looks scared of receiving it (Collins kept giving it to him) and has absolutely no idea what to do when he had it (some was due to midfield not showing) and looks terrified. Seemed to be at fault for first as lost the man coming onto the ball. Defensively for a big bloke he is not dominating at all and Morison won a lot of headers. Very limited. I think we have to say the promise some saw when we signed him a few years ago is not going to materialise. He is just a very limited player – can cope with that to some extent but he does not dominate the ball aerially and so unsure what his strengths are. They had 2 real attacks of note in open play and scored both.


Hammond 5/10 – Got to say been really disappointed with him. All this pleading for him to sign and how he would change things. Well he hasn’t made a bit of difference. We are still soft in the middle, still lost it too much and still lack aggression, pace and mobility. He does always receive the ball and does want to get on it and goes square and comes off but when he has it lacks pace and real ability to play killer balls or run forward with it. He just lays it off again. Looks incredibly limited in what he brings to the table. Not the answer for me.


Basham 4/10 – Awful. Reminded me of his early games as a Blade. He lost the ball constantly, played aimless balls and short passes that sold players short. He did little right and most of his tackles came after he lost it. Him and Hammond do not work together. So slow and again no mobility. Little nippy and quick players who get stuck in have a field day against out soft and slow midfield. Has to go back to centre back for me and fast for one of two aforementioned poor players.


Campbell Ryce 7/10 – Frustrating performance but still one of our main threats. Got down the wing and did get some good balls in. He got a few good crosses over early and did ok in spells but faded after the break and could not either get past his man or get crosses in. He simply tries to do too much. A player for me that needs to be used as an impact off the bench but sadly as with us last season an ageing journeyman looks our main threat. Worrying.


Adams 7/10 – He overplayed and tried to do too much and things did not always come off but they were doubling up on him. He still looked our main threat and at least tried to carry it forward and also make things happen. Hit the post with our best chance (only chance) first half and maybe should have done better. He moved around a bit across the front line but I felt although at times he got crowded out and tried too many tricks, he had no service and no help from other forwards. If you ask Millwall who gave them most worries, it would have been him.


Sharp 5.5/10 – A poor game for the most part. He did well to win it and lay it off on the goal but looked sluggish and weak all game. Got outmuscled too easily and reverted to falling over or wrestling and looking for fouls that were not there. He did not offer a goal threat in any way really. Did lay off for Adams for the first half but overall he has to do more than that. Kept plugging away but just one of them days.


Done 4/10 – His worst game for SUFC. He never got into it and was slow going forward and coming back. Did not see usual work rate we have seen and I felt that for the goal he was slow to react to the initial danger. He just never got into it and the full back nullified him easily. Not surprised he went off but not sure being shoved out wide is his best position. Think up top he can cause more problems and worry the centre backs.



Subs


Baxter 7/10 – Made a difference. Got on the ball and tried to carry it forward. He has a lot of critics but we still look a better team with him playing than when he does not. The midfield created nothing when he did not play. Missed a decent chance with one shot but then scored an excellent finish to get us level. Played just off Sharp and this is where he can be most effective for me as he was when we went on the good run under Clough a few years ago


Sammon – Did nothing. Woeful touch. Played left wing again but he never won a header and never got on the ball really. He is no better than what we already had and stuck with him for a season. He is not exactly convincing to stay long term at all considering he is out of contract. Can see him ending up in Scotland at the end of the season. More his level.


Flynn - Came on and ended up sort of wing back as we tried to salvage something but it was too late for him to make an impact.


Manager


Adkins 5/10 – Not good enough again. He did make one good change with the Baxter introduction leading to the goal. However putting Sammon left wing was bizarre and we never got any change out of the centre backs all game and the front players were ineffective. I felt we lost the midfield for key spells and ultimately poor defending cost us. We just lacked tempo and that urgency but overall we are too soft and he has to address that. Most worryingly for me his signings have been really poor. Hammond not improved things and Sammon, Woolford, Edgar and even Sharp have not convinced at all. Latter may have scored a few but missed a lot too and his recent performances have been ineffectual. Sadly, we do not seem any better under Adkins than Clough in how we play or results. Indeed if Clough was manager now we would have called for his head. He gets time of course and rightly so and will want to change a lot of this squad but don’t see him getting this ragged bunch up at all. It is also concerning his signings so far have been as bad or worse than one we had! Overall start for Adkins has not been good enough and I have not been impressed sadly. Not seen anything to say that he has done particularly well. We do score more goals I suppose but he has not sorted the keeper, defence, we are still soft in the middle and still lose way too easily at home and look no closer to making the Lane a fortress. He keeps moaning about the defence but keeps picking likes of Howard and Collins and has not replaced them. He has no one to blame but himself.


Ref – Poor but it annoyed me so many fans were blaming him for the defeat or poor play. He let them get away with constant time wasting and some cynical play. He also seemed to lose control for spells. He got a few decisions wrong but both ways and at times it seemed like he guessed on a lot of fouls and decisions (like the one that was a corner when it came off the corner flag). He did not book anyone for an age and then booked the full back for a lesser foul than the one he committed first half on Cambell Ryce. He then booked the keeper as we were making a sub. Bizarre. He should have been booked a lot longer ago but that was odd. He was poor I will say that and at times you were not sure what he would do next but that was for both sides.


However I would say United have to do better to adapt. We will get bad refs and often do at this level but United have to do better and change how they play depending on how referees officiate. Today he was letting a lot go and was allowing physical play so we have to be stronger. Sick of watching Sharp and Adams rolling around on the floor looking for free kicks. There were a lot of frustrating things that happened but can’t recall any major decisions affecting the outcome despite fans blaming him for everything. United are at home and to be blaming the referee is a bit pathetic.


Crowd – Nearly 20,000 which was most impressive again helped by a following of maybe 1,200 away fans. They were the noisiest bunch down here for some time and completely out sung the United fans all game who were very quiet and only got excited when the goal went in. In terms of trouble saw the police wrestling with a few pre game but nothing major seemed to happen. Odd that the fans could walk past the away end as normal pre game but not after with the road blocks put up. A flare went off on the Kop which led to stewards gathering around the corner but for the most part it seemed most of the rivalry did not get out of hand. Unsure why the game had to kick off so early. We have played these before at 3pm so why change it now especially when the Rotherham v Wednesday game was moved a long time ago.

I felt the United fans were more positive than the week despite the defeat. Some frustration set in but overall they was less booing overall just more frustration at the slow build up, lack of chances and also the rank bad defending.

A good following from Millwall who made themselves heard but they didn't completely outsing us, thought the kop were more like their old selves today. Odd match, we played much better than the other night but created few chances as you say. After looking like he was improving, young Harry took a step back today, shame Tel didn't come on to replace him. Did anyone see what newspaper their no 2 was reading just before he put in that cross for the first goal ?.
 
The ref was blatantly favouring your team mate, while booking ours for anything close to similar behaviour. I have no beef with Millwall, or any club really. Yes Wednesday fans set themselves up with the "massive" comments (which the majority of them seem to believe).

Even by League One standards, the ref today was terrible, a disgrace. Someone has said on another thread that he is the same referee who handled the Owls v QPR game midweek? Who (apparently) let QPR off with two blatant fouls (red cards).

I have always said Grappler that I prefer refs who let play flow and are not flashing cards about like confetti, but I must admit he was pretty bizarre today. Would the booking a few Millwall players have made any difference to todays score ?, I doubt it.
 
The problems with the defence are

1: Howard isn't vocal. When the defence had Maguire it wasn't a problem as he would attack and win everything in the air. Our defence needs organisational help and Howard isn't helping them.

2: Collins is more a 2nd central defender. It worked well where Maguie would take the main responsibility of going for the ball and Collins would sweep up the knock downs. It worked quite well in the early games when he partnered Edgar.

We need a big Harry Maguire/ Chris Morgan type of central defender otherwise we will always be dodgy.

It's a real shame that Fulham had injury problems meaning Danny Burn was forced to play for them and it's just our luck that he's hit great form so Fulham are unlikely to loan him to us now.

And a shame that Burn is the only potential loan signing centre back in the whole of British football available to us.
 
Very disappointing result today after we made such a bright start, far better than v Fleetwood (who won at Barnsley today).

Agree with most of OP but I have to stick up for Collins ( I've just put on my tin hat) who must have defended the ball more than any other player on the pitch and I would estimate he broke up 75% of their attacks (maybe upwards of 17/18 headers away). McGahey was missing most of the game and Collins had to compensate for him. Collins was exposed for their second goal but the player ran at him in the box and he held back on the tackle for fear of giving away a penalty, no excuse I know.

After all the negativity towards him all I'd ask is that those Blades who watch the full match video please make a note of Collins contribution and let us know their opinion .I thought it was immense apart from the second goal.

Of all the comments on here I agree with Deadbat when he says we defend too deep - the biggest single problem in our set-up is the distance between the back 4 and the strikers. Basham and Hammond sit far too deep in that big gap and simply do not cover enough ground. Each section of the team is playing in isolation with far too little support at hand, offensively or defensively. The combination of Basham and Hammond defies credibility, it's a dead area when in possession and neither gets anywhere near the edge of the opposition box if only to pick up clearances never mind support players with the ball - we are at Home for pete's sake! To play 4 at the back and 2 defensively in central midfield and to have such gaping areas between the players is very odd.

Adkins is under pressure now and has to find the right blend before long. We are still 6th and other clubs are dropping points but we have to keep in touch. There is plenty of time but Adkins has to carry along the fans as well as the players; at the moment there are big doubts.

Matt Done worries me. He seems subdued and unhappy. Fellow players are losing patience with the way he plays out wide. I sense a problem. Until Brayford is fit he would be the first name on my team sheet and I'd play him up top either on his own or in partnership with Sharp, Sammon or Adams in that order. Adkins might not appreciate just how good Done is up top, or it might be more convenient for him to play him deeper and play others up top. Adams is a talent but will be inconsistent week in week out in the first team.

Good point about Done, seems to have lost half a yard of pace for some reason, which I could understand if he was coming back from a serious leg injury or something, but broken collarbone shouldn't have affected him.
 
I respect your view and do see where you are coming from but for me Collins just smacks of an average League One defender which I suppose is where we are at now

We've conceded more than half the league, which indicates that our entire defence is at best average. Obviously raw figures don't necessarily tell the whole story re: quality of defence, Bayern have the best defensive record in the Bundesliga but elsewhere we theorise we could put a fat bloke from down the pub in goal for them and they'd still win, such is their ability to win/retain possession. Maybe given Adkins seems willing to concede midfield every single game, which should allow opponents more chances, our defence isn't that bad? Or maybe we've mostly played against teams that are shit up front. Gillingham are second top scorers and put 4 past us. Colchester are joint fifth top scorers and put three past us. Bury are one goal behind them and put three past us. Peterborough's the only real exception, maybe we caught them on a bad run early. Sure we got a 0-0 at Burton. There's only three teams in the entire division that have scored less than them - a clean sheet should be expected.
 
My biggest issue still with Collins is not just his poor play on the ball, mistakes but the fact he is do desperate to drag everyone back 10 yards so then the midfield have to come back and the strikers.

Clough was 100% right to move him on - not right not replacing him. He saw the above and realised how it was affecting the whole side as Collins has no confidence in defending a high line due to his lack of pace/mobility but this deep defensive play affects the whole side. There is no way at home we should defend where we do. The whole side should be further up.
To be fair I defended Collins a little bit earlier. However, Chezzy, Bury and Colchester in particular had loads more territory than us, to the point where it looked like we were playing on the break at home. I thought this was because we had no midfield and a confident team felt that they could walk through it. I will consider Collins' influence more. It's probably a little from column a and a little from column b.
 
I think Collins believes ranting and raving is classed as 'leading' but there is a reason no manager we have had in the past 5 seasons has made him captain
Good fact Roy. I'm not going to check that, I trust you. Very interesting point as he's the experienced head that has been present within half a dozen "re-builds".
 
:)Why does Adkins keep putting Done and Sammon out wide it's baffling.
Done is clearly unhappy there.
And Sammon looks like a fish out of water- sorry couldn't help that:)
 



Sadly you can just copy and paste DBs report for most games till Jan.

We are stuck with this bunch of limited cloggers until the end of the season at least im afraid.*


*some will probably take up an option for an extra year.
 
I agree with quite a lot of that. Hammond did look poor, but got more into it second half and put in a few meaty challenges. However, there is no way we should be lining up with Hammond and Bash in the middle - it was so predictable that Adkins would do that (our managers whatever decade seem to fall into the trap of no creativity through the middle). Baxter made a difference and should be a starter from here on in (was coming into form before he was dropped). I dont agree with the part on Howard - he should have got a hand to their first goal and yet again, is costing us points. The comments about the defence are also correct. I also though Coutts was unlucky to not get on, given his performance on Tuesday night.

I think its a good point made about the manager. He has made a good few mistakes so far, such as McEverley captain, persisting with him, not addressing the goalkeeper issue in the summer, trying to get Baxter to play a holding role then blaming him for not being able to tackle, playing Bash and Hammond as a two, sticking for 4-4-2 for longer once it was obviously not working. However, i think his hands are tied in terms of replacing the awful defence, and its still early doors for him - I'm sure he will get things right (once we can get different centre backs in the team).
 
I'd be concerned that we'd be too static, both from an defensive and offensive point of view.

I think we're already too static. Yesterday, so many of the misplaced, sideways or backwards passes were brought about by no-one at all showing for the ball in midfield. Jamal was the exception, but half the time he shows in the wrong places ! The lack of options when we are playing out from the back is alarming at the moment. Static midfielders hiding from the ball. It's no wonder we play "negatively", lose the ball a lot, and create so little.

Bash reminds me a bit of a lower league Jags. Looks a bit lost in midfield, where he runs around a lot but generally contributes little, but looks far more composed and effective at CH (albeit not the solution we need at CH).

What a bollocks of a result yesterday :(
 
I think we're already too static. Yesterday, so many of the misplaced, sideways or backwards passes were brought about by no-one at all showing for the ball in midfield. Jamal was the exception, but half the time he shows in the wrong places ! The lack of options when we are playing out from the back is alarming at the moment. Static midfielders hiding from the ball. It's no wonder we play "negatively", lose the ball a lot, and create so little.

Bash reminds me a bit of a lower league Jags. Looks a bit lost in midfield, where he runs around a lot but generally contributes little, but looks far more composed and effective at CH (albeit not the solution we need at CH).

What a bollocks of a result yesterday :(
JCR is most effective out wide when he receives the ball inside he's clueless
 
Just watched the goals this morning...the second was definitely going wide until Howard kicked it in.

First was a fluke.
 
KC2.0 - you say Adkins didn't address the keeper issue in the summer. Bear in mind that he started with Long, and then snap-dropped him after one game, which we didn't know then but know now happened to be against one of the best teams in the division, with even more of a held together with string and gaffer tape defence than we have now. With a game against a poor Crewe side next and a FA Cup and JPT tie round the corner, maybe we try Long again and see what happens?
 
However I would say United have to do better to adapt. We will get bad refs and often do at this level but United have to do better and change how they play depending on how referees officiate. Today he was letting a lot go and was allowing physical play so we have to be stronger. Sick of watching Sharp and Adams rolling around on the floor looking for free kicks. There were a lot of frustrating things that happened but can’t recall any major decisions affecting the outcome despite fans blaming him for everything. United are at home and to be blaming the referee is a bit pathetic.

Was saying this at half time. Why the hell aren't we putting it about more ? surely our backroom staff/players could see the type of game being played out ?

We're as soft as shite and so easy to play against.
 
Not sure Howard could get 7/10 when he scored an own goal from a relatively simple stop. He's a complete liability.
 
Seen the goals back. Yes it was anything but a bullet header. Need new glasses! Mcgahey lost him and the header. Howard was slow though. For the second McGahey lost another header (his supposed strength) and then Collins let his man get in too easy. Wallace does not react and you are right Howard on reflection should have done better but the ball was so close to him he just stuck out a foot and it just hit him and went in.

I said it the other week too many shots beat him. I cannot remember the last time he made a great save to deny a certain goal.

As an aside i saw someone saw millwall did not look like scoring butbthey had 6 or 7 shots on target to our 1. Sadly it was us yesterday who did not look like scoring and we were incredibly shot shy.
 
Seen the goals back. Yes it was anything but a bullet header. Need new glasses! Mcgahey lost him and the header. Howard was slow though. For the second McGahey lost another header (his supposed strength) and then Collins let his man get in too easy. Wallace does not react and you are right Howard on reflection should have done better but the ball was so close to him he just stuck out a foot and it just hit him and went in.

I said it the other week too many shots beat him. I cannot remember the last time he made a great save to deny a certain goal.

As an aside i saw someone saw millwall did not look like scoring butbthey had 6 or 7 shots on target to our 1. Sadly it was us yesterday who did not look like scoring and we were incredibly shot shy.

The photo below shows the pulling of Collins' shirt that Adkins was complaining about.

Collins shirt pull.jpg


As a former goalkeeper, what's your view on which hand Howard should be using to reach for this ball?:

Howard using wrong hand.jpg
 
I watched from the kop, throughout there was a the same pulling and holding from both players. Suggesting that Collins was hard done by tends to overlook that Collins was, on this occasion, the one to lose this particular battle. At times Collins acted like a wrestler in his attempts to better a player who was taller than himself, so at some point one or t'other one of them was bound to get the better of their opponent.

The ref was generally poor, some of his indecision was remarkable. Trouble is, our level of play was also poor, there was a static approach rather than one where our players looked hungry and willing to move and make life difficult for Millwall. Upfront we had players who are better suited to play centrally being pushed to the wings and thus their threat was nullified. Not the cleverest of tactical decisions I'd suggest.
 
The photo below shows the pulling of Collins' shirt that Adkins was complaining about.

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As a former goalkeeper, what's your view on which hand Howard should be using to reach for this ball?:

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Watching the highlights, I'd say the foul on Collins would never really be given, especially not in this league. I would also say that Howrd was too slow to react and should have saved that.

The second, well, I'm not quite sure what on earth was happening. You would assume from the angle of the ball and Howard's feet the ball should have been cleared and not ended in the net. the perils of diving backwards.
 
KC2.0 - you say Adkins didn't address the keeper issue in the summer. Bear in mind that he started with Long, and then snap-dropped him after one game, which we didn't know then but know now happened to be against one of the best teams in the division, with even more of a held together with string and gaffer tape defence than we have now. With a game against a poor Crewe side next and a FA Cup and JPT tie round the corner, maybe we try Long again and see what happens?


For those Gillingham goals Long could be blamed for half a one, the other 3 were out of his reach. The one for half blame was the throw/ cross which more or less landed on the goal-line . Long was wrong side of the scorer who was being non-marked though by Basham and maybe Collins I think, but neither moved.

The lad's done well enough in the cups though. Mind you I'm not 100% confident in him yet, could be better than Howard though who has no pedigree prior to coming to Bramall Lane and at his age ought to be at his peak.
 
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The amount of giveaway soft goals we conceed makes me think the players sit through team meetings with their dre beats on watching youtube videos of the latest hipster haircuts and tattoos they can spend their inflated wages on
 



To be fair a lot of Wall have said the same re the ref, ie we got away with a few things.

But that makes a nice change for us. We are hardly the FA's pet when it comes to handing out friendly refs...some of the 'you Millwall oiks wont scare me' openly bias refs we've seen down the years bares testament to that. In fact one allowed your mates Wednesday to score, having disallowed a perfectly good goal for us, but without blowing the whistle for a foul or letting our celebrating players know...in a relegation 6 pointer. He told our coach 'you lot have to take some medicine'!!

Anyways, the real worry then, for you lot, is our team had an average age of about 23/24...your players should have noted that this was a soft ref & started kicking our team around. The midfield were all under 24!
Our lot couldn't kick their way out of a soggy paper bag. What a proper set of pussys we are these days.

UTB
 

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