Phippsy

[Flatulent_Bob]

You're believing the "Jamie Murphy handed in a transfer request" line & discounting the possibility that the club accepted the bid from Brighton without such a request having been made. Fine. I'll remain sceptical, however. Laugh away.

Just hope the Connor Goldson rumour has some substance to it. If there is going to be some genuine squad reconstruction using the Jamie Murphy money, then I for one will be chuffed. Just not expecting it at all to happen.

OK so we can expect him to come out and say he didn't hand in a request? I mean why wouldn't he if he was being defamed in this way?
Or we can think that a league one player wanted to play at a higher level and followed proper process by asking for a transfer in writing.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Weren't people saying this when Maguire fucked off last year as well

Yeah Harry's set the world alight hasn't he? Unless your saying we didn't reinvest the money correctly, which is the managers job, and he's not here anymore.

 

[judge]

Regardless of the club accepting another clubs offer (which they wouldn't generally do if the player wasn't wanting to talk to the club in question), the player still has to accept the other clubs offer and want to move.

Personally, I expected him to move further north, but circumstances change.

We'll miss nothing of last weeks Jamie Murphy (as much as people preferred to point the finger elsewhere), fingers crossed we make the required changes having done this in order to ensure we don't miss an on-form Jamie Murphy.

The guy had no heart ,could see that in his performances
Glad we got a fee for him ,will be plying his trade at a spl club next season

 

[alcoblade]

You're believing the "Jamie Murphy handed in a transfer request" line & discounting the possibility that the club accepted the bid from Brighton without such a request having been made. Fine. I'll remain sceptical, however. Laugh away.

Just hope the Connor Goldson rumour has some substance to it. If there is going to be some genuine squad reconstruction using the Jamie Murphy money, then I for one will be chuffed. Just not expecting it at all to happen.

Seriously? You think the club would make this up, and Jamie Murphy will just keep quiet? Wow.

UTB

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

OK so we can expect him to come out and say he didn't hand in a request? I mean why wouldn't he if he was being defamed in this way?
Or we can think that a league one player wanted to play at a higher level and followed proper process by asking for a transfer in writing.

You can think what you like. He'll be bound by confidentiality clauses in the same way that every other footballer is.

The fact is we don't know, one way or the other. It's a question of how far you trust the club in its official statements. As I say, I'll remain sceptical.

If the money's visibly spent, my scepticism will decrease (happily so).

 

[Darthblade]

My view , it will turn out a good deal for the player and club . Murphy was under contract , therefore SUFC had the upper hand on this one .

Parience is a virtue , and unfortunatley its difficult to have , when we are so desperate for promotion.

Still think we will win tommorow , and a major signing is on his way . The Murphy money will help to pay the salary of the player coming in.

UTB

On the contrary ..... if the past is any indicator of the future, the money from murphy will "disappear", never to emerge again and there will be robust bleatings from the board about how much money they've invested !!
My guess is that his replacement arrived on a free in the summer ...... Its the blades way apparently !
UTB & FTP

 

[alcoblade]

You can think what you like. He'll be bound by confidentiality clauses in the same way that every other footballer is.

So he signed a clause that said the club could make things up about him without redress? Or just perhaps that's total and utter bollocks?

Clearly you are determined to think what you like, which makes any rational debate impossible.

UTB

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

You can think what you like. He'll be bound by confidentiality clauses in the same way that every other footballer is.

How would that work? Why would he sign a confidentiality clause? Are we forcing him out and paying him off too?
"Jamie lad, I know you want to stay in league one with us, but we're going to force you to take a pay rise and join a championship side. Oh that's not all, we're also going to say you forced the move and handed in a transfer request. If you don't agree we'll be really annoyed with you, but obviously can't drop you or anything else as too many questions would be asked, but the board might not talk to you or retweet your messages. Now even though you don't want to, you'll agree won't you? Ca-Ching another season in league one losing us money season on season"

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

So he signed a clause that said the club could make things up about him without redress? Or just perhaps that's total and utter bollocks?

Clearly you are determined to think what you like, which makes any rational debate impossible.

UTB

When have you ever involved yourself in rational debate?

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

How would that work? Why would he sign a confidentiality clause? Are we forcing him out and paying him off too?
"Jamie lad, I know you want to stay in league one with us, but we're going to force you to take a pay rise and join a championship side. Oh that's not all, we're also going to say you forced the move and handed in a transfer request. If you don't agree we'll be really annoyed with you, but obviously can't drop you or anything else as too many questions would be asked, but the board might not talk to you or retweet your messages. Now even though you don't want to, you'll agree won't you? Ca-Ching another season in league one losing us money season on season"

Good rhetoric, little substance.

Clap along while the money disappears down a deep, dark hole, there's a good lad.

 

[alcoblade]

When have you ever involved yourself in rational debate?

Regularly, generally with adults.

UTB

 

[silverfox]

Using the the terms "clap along" and "there's a good lad" could never be classed as rational debate could it?

Just asking.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Good rhetoric, little substance.

Clap along while the money disappears down a deep, dark hole, there's a good lad.

No the money's going into the boards pockets as you suggest and they're going to keep losing money season on season subsiding us because they just love forcing out their better players for no real reason.
There is no logical reason for the board to do what you are saying they have done. There is also no logical reason why we would pay him off and therefore force him to sign a confidentiality agreement. There is also no logical reason why he would sign that said confidentiality clause or why it would prevent him defending himself if we said he submitted a transfer request when he hadn't, which is clearly damaging to him. In fact your version of events makes no logical sense at any point, it's clearly complete fabrication, clearly negative and clearly has a harmful bias against the club. Honest criticism is one thing and should be encouraged to provide a lively debate and discussion but bullshit is bullshit and should be called as such.

 

[Bartleby]

On the contrary ..... if the past is any indicator of the future, the money from murphy will "disappear", never to emerge again

so we didn't use the money from Maguire to get Brayford then? Got him on a free did we?

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

Regularly, generally with adults.

UTB

Yeah, right. Must've missed that...

Anyway.

What I originally said was:

"Phipps has said Murphy wanted to go.
But there's plenty saying that he didn't & that he was, effectively, forced out.

Club spin (by a great PR man). Trying to deflect the flak."

The last sentence wasn't great, I admit - far too conclusive. But it was written in anger. As I say, I'm merely sceptical about what's been said by Jim on this one.

There have been claims that Murphy wasn't pushing for a move (in terms of initiating the process by handing in a transfer request). Is it really too far fetched to believe that the club had a price in mind for Jamie Murphy &, when that price was reached, that the board positively wanted to move him on, that they indeed initiated the move?

As I say, I don't know the truth. It's all down to whether or not you see fit to believe the club's statements (either the official ones or the fleshed out ones made by Jim).

I'm merely saying I'm not fully convinced.

I'll leave you & Farty Bob to make the categorical statements applauding the move & how it was conducted.

 

[alcoblade]

I'll leave you & Farty Bob to make the categorical statements applauding the move & how it was conducted.

I haven't applauded the move at all. I just can't join in the mass implosion that's gone on since the opening day defeat. If I were a pig I'd be rolling about laughing at the lack of mental steel on show around here.

But keep spouting the shite. You're in good company at the minute, and there's always safety in numbers.

UTB

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

I'll leave you & Farty Bob to make the categorical statements applauding the move & how it was conducted.

ALF come back. You've left your straw man behind!!! ALF! ALF!

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Bullshit

 

[Deleted member 875]

Weren't people saying this when Maguire fucked off last year as well

Think the general message from the powers that be is a that we will replace him, and replace him did, but with Jay McEveley......

 

[sheffielder]

The best bit from old Jim was that they had organised resources to keep him. What does this even mean, apart from there was no more money to spend without selling him. Good luck to Nigel in getting any of it.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

The best bit from old Jim was that they had organised resources to keep him. What does this even mean, apart from there was no more money to spend without selling him. Good luck to Nigel in getting any of it.

I'd say more money was put into the kitty or wage budget was adjusted so that selling him wasn't necessary if squad improvements were required given his standing within the squad as one of our top players.

 

[sheffielder]

I'd say more money was put into the kitty or wage budget was adjusted so that selling him wasn't necessary if squad improvements were required.

Yes the loan of David Edgar, yes I know who he is now showed the health of the kitty before Murphy was sold.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Yes the loan of David Edgar, yes I know who he is now showed the health of the kitty before Murphy was sold.

I don't think anyone suggested we'd finished strengthening the squad before we'd sold Murphy ie Nigel had more to spend without selling Murph.