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I hope the manager reminds the u-21 "coach" to get on with his own job, and leave first-team affairs to him.

Good on Morgs to put in a good word for his mate.
IMO Billy has lost a little pace and was caught off side too often because he set off early to compensate for his lack of pace.
 
I hope the manager reminds the u-21 "coach" to get on with his own job, and leave first-team affairs to him.

There you go again with your agenda. Pitiful.

You seem to think that "limited" players (which Morgan wasn't) are incapable of coaching. Tell that to Mourinho & Wenger.

You are getting very tedious with your anti Morgan agenda now, but I guess it suits your Bladey Blade agenda. He is a very highly qualified coach who has been retained by a number of different regimes & has been instrumental in the integration of a number of very promising young players into the first team squad. Give it a rest, eh? You have become a crashing bore.

It wouldn't be so bad if you would be prepared to spout your crap to his face but, knowing you personally, I have my doubts over that.
 
There you go again with your agenda. Pitiful.

You seem to think that "limited" players (which Morgan wasn't) are incapable of coaching. Tell that to Mourinho & Wenger.

You are getting very tedious with your anti Morgan agenda now, but I guess it suits your Bladey Blade agenda. He is a very highly qualified coach who has been retained by a number of different regimes & has been instrumental in the integration of a number of very promising young players into the first team squad. Give it a rest, eh? You have become a crashing bore.

It wouldn't be so bad if you would be prepared to spout your crap to his face but, knowing you personally, I have my doubts over that.

Really? Bring him on!

As for crap:

Morgan not limited? Ah, those silky Beckenbauer skills..those educated balls into midfield...those forward runs..

Retained by a number of regimes? Foisted on them, more like. Appointed a coach for financial reasons only. Utterly out of his depth as a Caretaker Manager (Portsmouth, Yeovil to name but two abject surrenders). Not a trace of a mention of "promising coach Chris Morgan" in connection with the countless lower and non-league vacancies that have arisen since his cost-cutting appointment.

Nick, I know you long for the return of Bassett and a Bassett/Warnock/Morgan dream team but really, mate, times have changed and some of us want a little bit better for our club. Do consider a move into the 20th Century. Boldly go where no Bladey Blade has gone before...
 
Really? Bring him on!

As for crap:

Morgan not limited? Ah, those silky Beckenbauer skills..those educated balls into midfield...those forward runs..

Retained by a number of regimes? Foisted on them, more like. Appointed a coach for financial reasons only. Utterly out of his depth as a Caretaker Manager (Portsmouth, Yeovil to name but two abject surrenders). Not a trace of a mention of "promising coach Chris Morgan" in connection with the countless lower and non-league vacancies that have arisen since his cost-cutting appointment.

Nick, I know you long for the return of Bassett and a Bassett/Warnock/Morgan dream team but really, mate, times have changed and some of us want a little bit better for our club. Do consider a move into the 20th Century. Boldly go where no Bladey Blade has gone before...

I'm a football purist with the best of them. I loathed Bassett & Warnock. So yet again, predictably, you are wrong. Do your homework on my previous posts sonny, they aren't as one dimensional as yours so should be actually readable without inducing coma.

Unlike you though, I played at a decent level, am now a successful coach (league winner last season, the level doesn't matter) and recognise what it takes to be a winning team, it involves a bit of pragmatism. And thought. And adapting to the players at your disposal.

Anyway, getting back to the point, did Morgan shag your sister, brother or mother or something? Maybe the family dog? What the hell is your problem with him? I guess it's all a part of trying to prove your point about wishing we were Barcalona which, to all the real football people on here, makes it embarrassingly obvious, for all your bold & pompous pronouncements, that you don't know too much about the realities of football, especially in this division.

Big Mart. Len. Micalijo. Pinchy. A rich tradition of those on this forum who fell in love with their own voices and then disappeared up their own arses before exploding. With a disappointingly quiet fart.

UTB.
 
Ah the old "you know nothing about football" line. Always the last resort when faced with intelligent argument.

You have no idea what level I played at, have you?

Successful coach? Dear, oh dear. You'll be helping old Upanatem teaching our kids to kick it long soon. Apparently he had to be told to stop the hoofing by someone more senior at the Academy.

I'm really not sure of the relevance of much of your rant. No, actually I am sure - very little.

I want what's best for our football club. I want coaches of imagination and sophistication teaching our youngsters. That's not Old Muckanettles I'm afraid. He's the Cec Coldwell of the New Millennium - here because he's here because he's here....
 
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Really? I haven't checked, but I thought N2 signed Billy at Scunny, Saints and Reading.

In which case, he signed Forte 2/3rds the number of times he signed Billy, though maths isn't my strong point.

Bugger, hadn't realised the Reading signing. Though I believe he inherited Sharp at Scunny rather than signing him, so it's two-all on the signings front.
 
You have no idea what level I played at, have you

Actually I have, I met somebody recently who used to be in Chambers with you. Not that it matters, but you probably got slightly further than Mourinho. Not as far as me though.

But you are still coming out with your tired old "upandatem" rhetoric in relation to me, despite my previous post. Are you stupid or just myopic? Read it again.

I support & respect Chris Morgan, knowing far more about him as a footballer, man, coach & motivater than you do. I also know more about football than you, for all your pomposity. Sorry if that offends, but sometimes stupidity needs confronting. Enough said, I think.
 
Ah the old "you know nothing about football" line. Always the last resort when faced with intelligent argument.

I would love to see some intelligent argument from you. Ranting, pomposity, condescension & bullying, yes. Also ignorance. But no intelligent argument.

Len Lite.
 
Actually I have, I met somebody recently who used to be in Chambers with you. Not that it matters, but you probably got slightly further than Mourinho. Not as far as me though.

But you are still coming out with your tired old "upandatem" rhetoric in relation to me, despite my previous post. Are you stupid or just myopic? Read it again.

I support & respect Chris Morgan, knowing far more about him as a footballer, man, coach & motivater than you do. I also know more about football than you, for all your pomposity. Sorry if that offends, but sometimes stupidity needs confronting. Enough said, I think.

Nothing offends me mate. I've been confronted by bigger and better than you and come out on top.

I have rarely read such arrogant, self-important drivel as you have expounded, tonight. You even throw in a 'sonny' which is highly amusing both chronologically and intellectually. Did it help relieve a little frustration, perhaps?

I've never met Arsene Wenger. I know for certain, however, that he's an exceptional coach and manager because I've seen the product of what he does. The fact that I've never met Chris Morgan (if you're going to name-drop, by the way, try one that impresses) is nothing to the point. I've seen the product of his work. I've heard him speak, including his assessment of how well we did at Yeovil. I know all I need to know. Let's keep an eye an his career as it develops shall we?

By the way, nobody in my Chambers was around when I played to a very decent amateur level and certainly none of them played with me, so where that comes from I can't compute, I'm afraid. Since then I've been rather too busy to take up coaching. I believe Brian the Blade managed Arbouthorne E.A., a long established and highly respected local club, did he not. I dare say he thinks he knows his stuff too.

I think you should leave it now, before you embarrass yourself any further.
 
I would love to see some intelligent argument from you. Ranting, pomposity, condescension & bullying, yes. Also ignorance. But no intelligent argument.

Len Lite.

You really have lost the plot, Nick. Go and have a sleep. You need a rest. Perhaps dream of your playing and coaching achievements?
 
You really have lost the plot, Nick. Go and have a sleep. You need a rest. Perhaps dream of your playing and coaching achievements?

You hate being put on the defensive, don't you

I've heard that's your Achilles Heel in court too, not great under pressure, could have been a good career otherwise
 
You hate being put on the defensive, don't you

I've heard that's your Achilles Heel in court too, not great under pressure, could have been a good career otherwise

All this because I dare to not recognise the genius of Good 'Ol Honest Hoofer Morgs? My word, you must have had a bad day.

Good night, Nick. I'm off for forty winks before I crumble under pressure, yet again, tomorrow.

Let's talk when you've calmed down a bit, eh?
 
All this because I dare to not recognise the genius of Good 'Ol Honest Hoofer Morgs? My word, you must have had a bad day.

Good night, Nick. I'm off for forty winks before I crumble under pressure, yet again, tomorrow.

Let's talk when you've calmed down a bit, eh?

If we are to supposedly to move forward as a progressive club , the ultimate goal of getting out of league 1 , and then build within the championship , the youth policy at BDTBL is a important factor for the supply chain of players into the first team. The culture should be that the youth teams mirror the first team in tactics etc. The bottom line ( forgetting all the bladey blade crap ) , is Morgan a good enough coach to achieve this blueprint aim.

Answer - No.

IMO Morgan will be on his way after the testimonial , and ply his trade elsewhere , which will do him a world of good , in his own career progression . You can be at a place of work too long ( never mind how good or bad you are ) , and become just part of the furniture , and overlooked for any promotion. Morgan keeps going backwards not forwards , and he needs to take stock and do something about it , and not get stuck in a comfort zone rut.

Good luck to the bloke , he has been a good club servant , but coaching at the lane - not for me.

UTB
 



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Ok...

We are having some landscape gardening work done by a bloke who is a LUFC season ticket holder and his brother works for a firm of solicitors that have a contract with BAE Systems at Warton. His bro apparently knows someone there who worked on the stealth systems of the Typhoon Euro Fighter and does a lot of hush hush work for DARPA in the States. Apparently this technician was recently on business in Saudi to help sell aircraft tech for the yanks when he got invited to a get together at a posh hotel where there were a few influential members of the Saudi royal family and government present. As he was making small talk with a group of them, he got into a conversation with a dapper bald headed american gentleman with a beard. The american guy, noticing his english accent asked him which football team he supported. Not having an interest in football, he shook his head and said that he wasn't really into sport. Giving him a quizzical look, the yank leaned in and whispered "See that Saudi gentleman over there stood amongst the royal entourage?"

"What the rather large, middle aged guy with the bald head and spectacles?" said the technician

"That's right" said the american.

"What about him?" He enquired.

The american leaned in a bit closer and said in no uncertain terms "Even that fat fucker can hit a cows arse with a banjo."
 
Really? Bring him on!

As for crap:

Morgan not limited? Ah, those silky Beckenbauer skills..those educated balls into midfield...those forward runs..

Retained by a number of regimes? Foisted on them, more like. Appointed a coach for financial reasons only. Utterly out of his depth as a Caretaker Manager (Portsmouth, Yeovil to name but two abject surrenders). Not a trace of a mention of "promising coach Chris Morgan" in connection with the countless lower and non-league vacancies that have arisen since his cost-cutting appointment.

Nick, I know you long for the return of Bassett and a Bassett/Warnock/Morgan dream team but really, mate, times have changed and some of us want a little bit better for our club. Do consider a move into the 20th Century. Boldly go where no Bladey Blade has gone before...
Oh dear, you are beginning to sound like Len.
 
I believe Brian the Blade managed Arbouthorne E.A., a long established and highly respected local club, did he not. I dare say he thinks he knows his stuff too.
Naw, Brian played for the Arbour but never to my knowledge, managed them. He managed Ball Albion on Sunday and Arthur Lees on Saturday for a good number of years. He was a bit like Warnock, high turnover of players around a trusted core group. Plenty of gob but little technical knowledge, perfect for pub football!
A fascinating debate with plenty of personal insults BTW!
Don't take Pinchy too serious Nick, he probably loves Morgs really but enjoys the sport of baiting on here too much to tell the real truth of his feelings.
However Nick, you've given him a great run for his money on this one :-)
 
Naw, Brian played for the Arbour but never to my knowledge, managed them. He managed Ball Albion on Sunday and Arthur Lees on Saturday for a good number of years. He was a bit like Warnock, high turnover of players around a trusted core group. Plenty of gob but little technical knowledge, perfect for pub football!
A fascinating debate with plenty of personal insults BTW!
Don't take Pinchy too serious Nick, he probably loves Morgs really but enjoys the sport of baiting on here too much to tell the real truth of his feelings.
However Nick, you've given him a great run for his money on this one :)

All in the game, mate. On this occasion however I was the innocent party. I made a reasonable comment about the role of the u-21 manager (whether you agree or not) to be met with a startling tirade of hostility and abuse by Nick. What am I to do?
 
You hate being put on the defensive, don't you

I've heard that's your Achilles Heel in court too, not great under pressure, could have been a good career otherwise

Nick, frankly, commenting on Pinchy's career is stupid. It has all the hallmarks of the school playground fella, so stick to the football critiques. Taking what Pinchy or anyone on here has to say to heart will drive you loopy. You crossed a line with your damning comment about the quality of Pinchy's work, and it was so obviously one of those contrived bits of nonsense that I hope you won't employ again. By all means argue about the point in hand, but if Montgomery reduces you to this....?!?!?
 
Don't take Pinchy too serious Nick, he probably loves Morgs really but enjoys the sport of baiting on here too much to tell the real truth of his feelings.
However Nick, you've given him a great run for his money on this one :)

I would hardly describe having to resort to school yard type snides about Pinchy 's private life and career as giving him a great run for his money. :rolleyes:
 
Good luck to the bloke , he has been a good club servant , but coaching at the lane - not for me.
Based on what?

I don't get the anti Morgan stuff. What does anyone know about his coaching abilities? I know next to nothing, and I suspect so does everyone else.

I've come to accept that Pinchy will automatically reject anything from the past, because he's wedded to the line that "pure" football is the only way to deliver success. 5 years of being continually proved wrong hasn't altered that - so it's not going to change.

But where do others who don't rate him draw this opinion from?

UTB
 
I don't get the anti Morgan stuff. What does anyone know about his coaching abilities? I know next to nothing, and I suspect so does everyone else.

It's an old trope.

Don't forget that Blackwell was the genius behind Warnock's success. Except he wasn't. Perhaps it was David Kelly?

Who bloody knows?
 
I would love to see some intelligent argument from you. Ranting, pomposity, condescension & bullying, yes. Also ignorance. But no intelligent argument.

Len Lite.

Change the record old boy. Your personal attacks on a fellow board member do you no credit. Have the boil lanced, stop the sore festering, you will feel so much better.
 
Based on what?

I don't get the anti Morgan stuff. What does anyone know about his coaching abilities? I know next to nothing, and I suspect so does everyone else.

I've come to accept that Pinchy will automatically reject anything from the past, because he's wedded to the line that "pure" football is the only way to deliver success. 5 years of being continually proved wrong hasn't altered that - so it's not going to change.

But where do others who don't rate him draw this opinion from?

UTB
Spot on Alco. No evidence whatsoever to say he's errrr.. ' clueless', oh wait, a short caretaker spell gave plenty on here the chance to reject any ability CM may have.
Still think he'll go on to manage in the near future.
 



Oooh. Just got to this one. What an entertaining spat between Pinchers and Janskers.

Top drawer, fellers. :)

We all mates again now?
 

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