There's one thing I'll miss now Clough's gone...

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Alco - I understand your sentiments. Clough had started something and although he had issues, the continual changing of managers is just not good. We now have the same reputation the pigs had from 1997 onwards when they kept trying different people - with very little success.

As for Parkinson - he is nothing more than average, similar to Danny Wilson. I frankly couldn't give a monkeys about DW playing/managing the pigs - his record with previous clubs was not good, apart from Barnsley first time round. Parkinson is with Bradford for a reason and does not seem to have anything other to offer than same old, same old. We might get a change of football philosophy when we can't really afford one.

Whatever the reasons for Cloughs departure could set us back not only two years with the next manager, but the one after that as well.

Ideally we need a manger who can actually make the players we have, better. We need more from Harris, Scoogal, Mcnulty, Murphy, Flynn et al and to do that we need the right sort of manager.

Parkinson, might succeed - but he just doesn't seem to have that "little bit extra", not that we deserve it, but we need it - and we need it badly now.

Parkinson would be an average punt in the dark - is that what we have now become?

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Totally agree with you . I suppose we are looking for The Special One , but never will get there . Like many , i was pro Clough , although he made some bizarre decisions , but seemed to have found some sort of redemption ,and error of his ways . A couple of CB players and couple more , and he would have cracked it.

Whatever happened , happened in the board room, , and we move on. I can see this going tits up , and we finish up with a interim manager , because for whatever reason , it all falls apart.

Next stop Keith Curle. Many a true word,.

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[super_pig]

one of my main concerns tbh without clough no idea what will happen to reed, DCL and adams

they'll regularly make the first 11 ??

 

[Fulwood Blade]

I fear so.

I agree with your post. I don't want Parkinson, I just don't feel nearly as negative about him as most, I think. We are very much a third division club at the moment. The manager is likely to reflect that.

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I didn't slag DW off and I wouldn't slag Parkinson either - would try, as I have with Clough just to highlight where the problems are, like we all have done - some may I say with vitriol, some with sensible debate.

Yes we are 3rd tier - and we need a seed change to get us out of that. The prince/PhippsMcCabe era hasn't started well - next next choice is so important and I just fear Parkinson is way, way, way off beam.

We all know FIFA is wrong - we just feel it - Parkinson just doesn't seem right for me also.

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[Fulwood Blade]

Totally agree with you . I suppose we are looking for The Special One , but never will get there . Like many , i was pro Clough , although he made some bizarre decisions , but seemed to have found some sort of redemption ,and error of his ways . A couple of CB players and couple more , and he would have cracked it.

Whatever happened , happened in the board room, , and we move on. I can see this going tits up , and we finish up with a interim manager , because for whatever reason , it all falls apart.

Next stop Keith Curle. Many a true word,.

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yes we are in agreement - tits up is the correct phrase.

I just have a sneaky feeling about Brian Deane - a gamble, but less of a gamble than Parkinson would be.

As for a couple of CB's - again that could have done it. A fit Wallace would have been the difference also next season. Who ever the manager is, if he gets 2 decent CB's and Wallace fit and he plays MM up top (in some capacity) then whoever the next incumbent might be - he could drop very very lucky.

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[Bladebri]

What we need is a manager who can get the team playing as a unit, to many times this season have we relied on individuals to carry the others.

 

[gavtheblade]

I'll miss Clough IF we get Parkinson.

Sorry, but better the devil you know in this scenario.

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Spot on brother

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Another name that cropped up regularly was Steve Evans - though as popular as a fart in a lift on here.

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I forgot to mention Steve Evans - personally I think he is a twat, in the same mould as Warnock/Robinson/Megson, but would have him at BDTBL tomorrow. He's that loud, brash sort of fella that opposition fans hate, but to be fair, he has something different about him - he gets results, sees things in average players and gets the best out of what he has - just the sort we need.

Rotherham have got a decent footballing manager, but they are liable to get way beyond themselves if they are not careful. Some of us can remember Rotherham and Ronnie Moore - flying high, wanted more and got rid - just a bad decision.

We have some decent players, they need someone to make them better.

It won't take many signings - just the right ones..........cometh the hour, cometh who................????

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[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

I forgot to mention Steve Evans - personally I think he is a twat, in the same mould as Warnock/Robinson/Megson, but would have him at BDTBL tomorrow. He's that loud, brash sort of fella that opposition fans hate, but to be fair, he has something different about him - he gets results, sees things in average players and gets the best out of what he has - just the sort we need.

Rotherham have got a decent footballing manager, but they are liable to get way beyond themselves if they are not careful. Some of us can remember Rotherham and Ronnie Moore - flying high, wanted more and got rid - just a bad decision.

We have some decent players, they need someone to make them better.

It won't take many signings - just the right ones..........cometh the hour, cometh who................????

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If we fall flat on our face with the quoted three .

Brian Deane and Neil Warnock ?

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[Harry's Game]

oh just the little Things..

His signing of cocks and Dwarves

His scouting network that extended about as far as Buxton and Glossop, with the occasional weekend in Provincial Scotland

His tactics of bringing every man back to defend a corner even when we are behind with a minute to go.

His bringing on of defensive midfielders as subs when Trailing at home to Fleetwood town.

I will miss all those things,..


.....Not Really.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

If we fall flat on our face with the quoted three .

Brian Deane and Neil Warnock ?

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Considering who is around, and who has already turned us down, then perhaps Deane in charge with NW as DoF. It would clearly upset and annoy a lot on here, but we are getting to last chance saloon.

Was discussing the situation with a piggy (good football knowledge though - just misguided in support) and we are very much like Wednesday from 1997 onwards - picking him, then him, then that one - all with the same results.

Deane would be a big gamble, and if KM could overcome the issues with NW then it might work - all in the interests of SUFC, not individual egos (Warnock and McCabe)

Deane appears to be level headed, knows the club and supporters and with NW's help in finding the right players for the division we are in now, then hopefully the championship, it might work.

Anyone we get would be a gamble, even Adkins. Deane and Warnock I believe would have the good of the club at heart, and I appreciate Warnock has always been dodgy (allegedly), but he is still a Blade and Deane is as much as an adopted Blades as there will ever be.

We could do a lot worse - Parkinson for one.

Very interesting article on Wenger in the Mail today written by Martin Keown - Wenger seems the ultimate man manager - I see some of it in Brian Deane......it might just work.

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[Fulwood Blade]

A few issues for me. With Weir followed by Clough we have a squad, like it or not, that has been assembled to play football on the deck (passing game, ticky-tacky whatever). If the remit is promotion this season, why even look at a manager known for more of a long-ball game? It would be another move in another direction and a couple of seasons to get the key players to play that way. Doesn't make sense on that score.

Secondly, we're spending nigh on £1m to install a super quality pitch. If Parky is the anointed one, why bother? Not needed for the more direct game, in fact a major factor against playing it effectively.

Like it or not, we seem as a club to have moved towards a passing game with player recruitment and now the pitch to back it up. Parkinson just seems illogical to me.

You are right about the passing - that's the players we have.

An interesting observation was Alan Hansen said the philosophy at Liverpool was to always look forward to pass - it was bred into them. Conor Coady was just the same and we seriously missed him last season.

The new manager has just to tweak what we have - look forward, take responsibility, pass and move - and NOT sideways, which was a lot of our downfall last season. Players have to take that responsibility and be confident - too many just looked for the easy ball - ie: sideways.

We must make use of the big investment of the pitch - Parkinson would be a waste of time. We can, and should be better than Parkinson.

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[bladesman3]

I liked how Clough came across in interviews even though others didn't. I thought he was honest and some "controversial" things he said were taken out of context

He was monotone and boring and we were always unlucky!

 

[SwissBlade]

...the Garner/Morgs show, I'd been hoping for another edition this summer. Maybe we should have that on the selection criteria - ability to create a comedy double act with Morgs to keep morale up

What will others miss ?

I'll miss the decent manager, speaking sense, developing young players, cup semi finals, big game performances and a genuinely decent bloke

 

[alcoblade]

I'll miss the decent manager, speaking sense, developing young players, cup semi finals, big game performances and a genuinely decent bloke

I agree with all that, apart from developing young players. Was that really more evident than under other management?

(Not that I give a flying fuck about developing young players )

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[SwissBlade]

I agree with all that, apart from developing young players. Was that really more evident than under other management?

(Not that I give a flying fuck about developing young players )

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Not sure the stats would say he brought through academy players more than others but felt he gave the youngsters a chance when he didnt always have to as there were experienced options available.

Clough certainly seemed to adopt the policy of good enough, he's old enough

 

[HillmortonBlade]

I'll miss the decent manager, speaking sense, developing young players, cup semi finals, big game performances and a genuinely decent bloke

I agree with all that, up to "big game performances", which I mostly agree with.. until that last match at Swindon. That's where my support unravelled.

 

[SwissBlade]

I agree with all that, up to "big game performances", which I mostly agree with.. until that last match at Swindon. That's where my support unravelled.

Play offs mate, it's what we do as blades.

Just like sacking managers every season or so is ingrained into the Club ethos, Play off fuck ups also run through the veins of bramall lane.

Sad to say but the sacking of Clough has done more for unravelling my support than any play off defeat. It's a sign that we have no plan, a clueless regime with no thoughts of sticking to a long term plan, but quick fixes...

 

[memorable]

I really agree with SwissBlade. I was finally starting to think we were progressing as a club from top to bottom, and then this happens.

Having just watched the FA cup final, I'll miss the cup runs. So many people think they count for squat now because we didn't get promoted but don't worry next year we'll still be in this league AND we won't have had the distraction of some cracking cup matches.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Play offs mate, it's what we do as blades.

Just like sacking managers every season or so is ingrained into the Club ethos, Play off fuck ups also run through the veins of bramall lane.

Sad to say but the sacking of Clough has done more for unravelling my support than any play off defeat. It's a sign that we have no plan, a clueless regime with no thoughts of sticking to a long term plan, but quick fixes...

Agree with that Swiss . It was not like Clough was a unknown quantity . They new his good points and warts and all. The bloke although being an absolute pain in the arse this season , and you could say , cost us promotion , he would have got it right next season.

He either dropped himself in the shit or was helped on the way . I wonder what the players ( who seem not to take any responsibility in a lot of matches think ) . Back to square one again , and again .

Hope the club don't give us the building for the future , infrastructure plan , stability bull shit . Its becoming to read like the Stasi East German Manifesto.

Will we go for a cheap option , and talk it up - we will soon find out.

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[HillmortonBlade]

Play offs mate, it's what we do as blades.

Just like sacking managers every season or so is ingrained into the Club ethos, Play off fuck ups also run through the veins of bramall lane.

Sad to say but the sacking of Clough has done more for unravelling my support than any play off defeat. It's a sign that we have no plan, a clueless regime with no thoughts of sticking to a long term plan, but quick fixes...

I was 100% in agreement with you, not very happy when the regular season ended but felt that NC should have the opportunity next season given he was still developing the side no matter . But for me, that farce of a match which would have shamed a junior football side, tipped the balance. The defence a mess from the kick off and then bringing Adams far too late. It wasn't unlucky, the Footballing Gods didn't conspire against us. Can it be said we could look forward to it being sorted out over the summer, given that the centre of our defence was bereft for so much of the season, did your heart race with anticipation when we had a corner? But ironically, I agree with you SB, I am not comfortable with the apparent lack of a long term plan, I hate the quick turnover of managers. My gut instinct is that it was inevitable and as I have mulled it over, that instinct comes from the manner of our play in the majority of matches last season (and then that farce at Swindon).

Blimey, that was cathartic...