CONFIRMED Nigel Adkins is announced as new Sheffield United Manager

[BusheyBlade]

Left

Yeh, as I said "for various reasons" ie he got a call from his country

Yes, but he should still be counted within our churn of managers. Granted we didn't sack him, but he was still a permanent manager who is no longer our manager! Anyway, it's irrelevent really, we're shit at appointing managers.

 

[Barney]

Adkins wants a Premier League job.

http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/shef...-preferably-from-the-premier-league-1-7281080

Doubt he'd get a PL job if Reading didn't want him.

 

[super_pig]

Adkins wants a Premier League job.
http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/shef...-preferably-from-the-premier-league-1-7281080

come on.. would prefer.. typical nowt to write about Stir doing what they do best

 

[Darthblade]

Serious question. Do the grunters think the Star and local BBC radio, not to mention the council, are equally biased against them?

Well they are arrogant and deluded so maybe so ....
UTB & FTP

 

[Blade56]

Doubt he'd get a PL job if Reading didn't want him.

That's a good point bb. If we were a PL and news got out we were talking to a man who had a non league, 2 L1 and a championship promo I'd react like we have to the thought of Morg's or Parkinson getting the job.

 

[Barney]

Not that it's anything to go by, but from what i've heard from numerous people who claim to be ITK, is that
Adkins is in pole position to be signing on the dotted line... also, all of them have claimed the Parkinson link
is garbage. All to be announced today or tomorrow but certainly sooner rather than later.

 

[Pinchy]

This Hoofy football is a myth . You have to know what you are doing . Even the top sides play hoofy football.

Percentage football is were you fail .

I have come to the point on what style we play , as long as we get out of league 1 . I will go for ,nicey nicey when the time is right.



UTB

I'm afraid I've explained this so often, without it ever sinking in, that I'm weary of it now. One more time, in simple words. It's all about winning. Which teams win most often? The best footballing teams. The best footballing teams win games, leagues and trophies. Not the ones who can kick it longest, hardest and highest. The best teams play pass and move football. They assuredly do not play "Hoofy football". ["Gerritintbox Iniesta tha' wanker"] Proper football is winning football. Wimbledon are extinct.

Only in S2......

I despair [again...]. I'm in a state of constant despair.....

 

[Guesty]

This myth about us churning managers annoys me. It's including Morg's, Calver and Speed who for various reasons where only there in a temporary capacity.

We've appointed and dismissed three permanent managers in the four years we've been in this division.

 

[Jon Bon]

Adkins wants a Premier League job.

http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/shef...-preferably-from-the-premier-league-1-7281080

Post #385 on page 20 has just called and asked if it can have its words and link back if you've done with them...

 

[Barney]

I'm afraid I've explained this so often, without it ever sinking in, that I'm weary of it now. One more time, in simple words. It's all about winning. Which teams win most often? The best footballing teams. The best footballing teams win games, leagues and trophies. Not the ones who can kick it longest, hardest and highest. The best teams play pass and move football. They assuredly do not play "Hoofy football". ["Gerritintbox Iniesta tha' wanker"] Proper football is winning football. Wimbledon are extinct.

Only in S2......

I despair [again...]. I'm in a state of constant despair.....

Don't know why you insist that it's ONLY in S2. How many other teams supporters have you consulted on this?
If some in S2 think that it's the correct way to get out of L1 (not winning trophies), i'm sure many other fans around
the world think the same about their team.

 

[Bladesince59]

Robinson's contract expires this summer. MKD are desperate for him to sign their contract offer

Thanks - had forgotten. I reckon maybe we will have more chance of landing Robinson than Adkins - either has to be better than Parkinson. All the money seems to be on these 3 - we just don't know how much "all the money is"

 

[Pinchy]

Don't know why you insist that it's ONLY in S2. How many other teams supporters have you consulted on this?
If some in S2 think that it's the correct way to get out of L1 (not winning trophies), i'm sure many other fans around
the world think the same about their team.

I doubt it, mate. I've not perceived a popular demand for the return of turgid, agricultural pub football at professional level. Most fans have not had their thinking warped by a period of success under Dave Bassett, who I'm increasingly satisfied, has warped the minds of thousands of Bladey Blades, who actually (and ludicrously) seem to think his "style" can still work today. Actually I's like to see us appoint him as DoF right now, with Hoofy "Morgs" as his manager. That would put the matter to rest, one way or the other, wouldn't it?

Proper football is the way to win, at whatever level but of course, relative to that level. Of course we can't replicate Barca or Real, but we can sure as hell emulate Norwich, Southampton, Bournemouth, Bristol, Milton Keynes and countless others who have played their way out of this league in the proper way.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

I doubt it, mate. I've not perceived a popular demand for the return of turgid, agricultural pub football at professional level. Most fans have not had their thinking warped by a period of success under Dave Bassett, who I'm increasingly satisfied, has warped the minds of thousands of Bladey Blades, who actually (and ludicrously) seem to think his "style" can still work today. Actually I's like to see us appoint him as DoF right now, with Hoofy "Morgs" as his manager. That would put the matter to rest, one way or the other, wouldn't it?

Proper football is the way to win, at whatever level but of course, relative to that level. Of course we can't replicate Barca or Real, but we can sure as hell emulate Norwich, Southampton, Bournemouth, Bristol, Milton Keynes and countless others who have played their way out of this league in the proper way.

FFS!

 

[Bart the Blade]

I have refrained from posting for there is too great a risk of sounding negative. I hate being in a position where I feel I have to moan about the clubs actions. In my opinion Clough wasn't great, style of play, decisions etc. However being sacked without a decent immediate replacement seems odd. I am really worried about the next appointment. The names we are being linked with are very uninspiring. We need a statement of intent, not necessarily a big name but someone proven at least. Parkinson isn't for me, but i guess if appointed we will have to wait and see. Adkins a better appointment and would be ideal, although i cant see it happening. All I have at the back of my mind is that this feels allot like when we signed David Weir. I hope there isn't going to be another catastrophe like that again. We need someone who we can put faith into and attract some decent signings.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

I doubt it, mate. I've not perceived a popular demand for the return of turgid, agricultural pub football at professional level. Most fans have not had their thinking warped by a period of success under Dave Bassett, who I'm increasingly satisfied, has warped the minds of thousands of Bladey Blades, who actually (and ludicrously) seem to think his "style" can still work today. Actually I's like to see us appoint him as DoF right now, with Hoofy "Morgs" as his manager. That would put the matter to rest, one way or the other, wouldn't it?

Proper football is the way to win, at whatever level but of course, relative to that level. Of course we can't replicate Barca or Real, but we can sure as hell emulate Norwich, Southampton, Bournemouth, Bristol, Milton Keynes and countless others who have played their way out of this league in the proper way.

By your own logic Dave Bassett must have played football the proper way because he was successful.

Every team ever promoted must have played good football because of your mantra that "proper football is the way to win". Right?

 

[Pinchy]

By your own logic Dave Bassett must have played football the proper way because he was successful.

Every team ever promoted must have played good football because of your mantra that "proper football is the way to win". Right?

I've said many times, mate. Bassett was the right man at the right time. A "necessary evil". What Bladey Blades obdurately fail to appreciate is that time has long gone, thankfully never to return. Hoof was found out a long time ago and Wimbledon are extinct.

Why do you like it so much, by the way? Do you enjoy watching the goalie repeatedly and monotonously punt the ball in the general direction of two giant but unskilled forwards, missing out midfield entirely and dispensing with any notion of passing, control or talent. Just wondering if you're a frustrated pub player?

 

[Bladesince59]

If the Board had planned to sack Clough post Swindon (if we lost) you would think they would have an alternative pencilled in. If that alternative was out of contract/unemployed, he would have been on board by now. So either they didn't plan to fire Clough or their preferred candidate is not out of contract. My guess is the former - sacking Clough was something they didn;t expect to do..

 

[him behind you]

I have refrained from posting for there is too great a risk of sounding negative. I hate being in a position where I feel I have to moan about the clubs actions. In my opinion Clough wasn't great, style of play, decisions etc. However being sacked without a decent immediate replacement seems odd. I am really worried about the next appointment. The names we are being linked with are very uninspiring. We need a statement of intent, not necessarily a big name but someone proven at least. Parkinson isn't for me, but i guess if appointed we will have to wait and see. Adkins a better appointment and would be ideal, although i cant see it happening. All I have at the back of my mind is that this feels allot like when we signed David Weir. I hope there isn't going to be another catastrophe like that again. We need someone who we can put faith into and attract some decent signings.

There are a number of people who are moaning at the board for sacking Clough without a ready made appointment. But the question I have is this......If the meeting with Clough went as badly as it must have (for whatever the reason(s)) that the board totally lost confidence in him and his plans to rectify last season's mistakes, would we have been happy for them to allow him to plod on with his reported planned recruitment of more injury prone players from Derby etc. until such time as they had a replacement in place??? Or should they have agreed with his plans but then told him that they wouldn't allow him to sign anyone which would basically leave us in exactly the same situation - i.e. unable to sign or approach players because we either had a manager we were banning from it or didn't have a manager who could do it. I'm not sure what difference it makes other than meaning we don't have a manager for what could only be a few days.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a big fan of the board but sometimes I think we do have a tendancy to moan (not saying you have Bart, this is a generalism) without considering the alternatives.

 

[stringjunior]

obdurately

And here, ladies and gentlemen, is your word of the day. Drop it in to casual conversation in the tap room this evening.

Take a like Pinchy

 

[Barney]

If the Board had planned to sack Clough post Swindon (if we lost) you would think they would have an alternative pencilled in. If that alternative was out of contract/unemployed, he would have been on board by now. So either they didn't plan to fire Clough or their preferred candidate is not out of contract. My guess is the former - sacking Clough was something they didn;t expect to do..

Or the board didn't expect to sack Clough yet they are still going after someone in work.

 

[Blade82]

I've said many times, mate. Bassett was the right man at the right time. A "necessary evil". What Bladey Blades obdurately fail to appreciate is that time has long gone, thankfully never to return. Hoof was found out a long time ago and Wimbledon are extinct.

Why do you like it so much, by the way? Do you enjoy watching the goalie repeatedly and monotonously punt the ball in the general direction of two giant but unskilled forwards, missing out midfield entirely and dispensing with any notion of passing, control or talent. Just wondering if you're a frustrated pub player?

Who actually plays that way pinchy? You're version of hoof is long gone.

 

[Barney]

And here, ladies and gentlemen, is your word of the day. Drop it in to casual conversation in the tap room this evening.

Take a like Pinchy

Swear he takes a browse of the oxford dictionary before he posts.
Not knocking it though, i like it.

 

[Bladesince59]

Or the board didn't expect to sack Clough yet they are still going after someone in work.

Looks good for next season already.

 

[carthesis]

I'm afraid I've explained this so often, without it ever sinking in, that I'm weary of it now. One more time, in simple words. It's all about winning. Which teams win most often? The best footballing teams. The best footballing teams win games, leagues and trophies. Not the ones who can kick it longest, hardest and highest. The best teams play pass and move football. They assuredly do not play "Hoofy football". ["Gerritintbox Iniesta tha' wanker"] Proper football is winning football. Wimbledon are extinct.

Only in S2......

I despair [again...]. I'm in a state of constant despair.....

I've said many times, mate. Bassett was the right man at the right time. A "necessary evil". What Bladey Blades obdurately fail to appreciate is that time has long gone, thankfully never to return. Hoof was found out a long time ago and Wimbledon are extinct.

Why do you like it so much, by the way? Do you enjoy watching the goalie repeatedly and monotonously punt the ball in the general direction of two giant but unskilled forwards, missing out midfield entirely and dispensing with any notion of passing, control or talent. Just wondering if you're a frustrated pub player?

I wouldn't normally push my nose into the arguments of others, but as this seems to be a constant source of argument and disagreement across many football boards, I'm going to submit my two penn'orth here:

The teams that "win most often" are the teams that can adapt their style of play to that required at the time. The vast majority of teams which stick to a single approach to a game tend to be only moderately successful at best. Take Arsenal as an example, who for a number of years have been seemingly attempting to copy Barca, except with marginally less-talented players. In a decade they have won a single trophy, which for a team as big and with as much history as Arsenal is pretty much on a par with our own record of success. Barca play in a pretty one-dimensional way, not varying their game, and have had success with it, but look at the players they have to accomplish that. It *CAN* work if you have that level of exceptional talent, which very few do. That said - for the most part - I find them quite dull to watch. Arsenal too.

Now look at Man U, Man City, Chelsea, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. These are all teams which vary their game and style according to the opposition they face. Real play the tippy-tappy tiki-taka stuff sometimes, but then break with pace and power. Bayern - now managed by the bloke how *INVENTED* the tiki-taka style - don't play that style consistently, only when necessary.

Success means changing what needs changing, when you need to change it, to ensure that your success continues.

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Now, on the Manager front, allow me to say this:

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, PELE AND THE QUEEN PLEASE DON'T APPOINT PHIL PARKINSON!!

 

[Barney]

Looks good for next season already.

To be fair, you're analysis is spot on. We'll just have to hope that Clough was sacked unexpectedly, or it was planned before Swindon yet for one reason or another somebody out of work like Adkins has delayed it for something like wages/contract agreements.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Who actually plays that way pinchy? You're version of hoof is long gone.

I'm not hear as Pinchy's advocate Knockoff, although I do warm to his views on how football should be played. I think, and if I'm wrong I'm sure Pinchy will correct me, that what's being suggested is that we shouldn't go near anything that won't help us progress long-term.

Just a point re. your question, Man Utd, under their Dutch footballing genius, recently decided to punt the ball to Fellaini on a regular basis, missing out the midfield in one fell swoop.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Why do you like it so much, by the way?

I don't, I don't even believe it exists.

 

[Pinchy]

Who actually plays that way pinchy? You're version of hoof is long gone.

Thank Pele for that, mate! I agree with you, it has. The deeply disappointing thing is that so many of our fellow Blades would dearly like it to return! Most of them won't admit it, though - rather like voting for the Tories....

 

[I should coco]

I've said many times, mate. Bassett was the right man at the right time. A "necessary evil". What Bladey Blades obdurately fail to appreciate is that time has long gone, thankfully never to return. Hoof was found out a long time ago and Wimbledon are extinct.

Why do you like it so much, by the way? Do you enjoy watching the goalie repeatedly and monotonously punt the ball in the general direction of two giant but unskilled forwards, missing out midfield entirely and dispensing with any notion of passing, control or talent. Just wondering if you're a frustrated pub player?

Two 'giant and unskilled' forwards like Deane and Agana?

I've been going to BDTBL since 1970 and 1989-92 was probably the most enjoyable period of watching United. I completely agree things have moved on but by overly exaggerating what direct football was all about, you weaken your argument.

Simple for me. Adkins has several promotions, played good football at Soton and brought youth players through. What's not to like?

 

[Blade56]

Now, on the Manager front, allow me to say this:

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, PELE AND THE QUEEN PLEASE DON'T APPOINT PHIL PARKINSON!!

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS JIM^^^^^^^^^^^^^^