sparky.

[gavtheblade]

Bully boys gone pal,now you can play without the weight of the world on your shoulders and not get the scapegoat treatment in the post match interview.
Start running the channels mate,you'll be fine.

 

[AnonymousBlade1995]

don't put out the idea he will be rejoining clough

 

[Ashtonsmashton]

I think McNulty wil thrive under a new manager

 

[FTPE]

I thought we were after Mark Hughes!

 

[Pinchy]

The kid's got an enormous amount to learn. Clough knows a bit about playing up front. He wanted the lad to play better. What's wrong with that? Has McN watched Matt Done? Look and learn.

 

[LSF]

Bully boys gone pal,now you can play without the weight of the world on your shoulders and not get the scapegoat treatment in the post match interview.
Start running the channels mate,you'll be fine.

Bully boy? I don't know whether to laugh or weep when I read guff like this.
A bit of criticism amounts to bullying these days eh?
Poor old MM would have shrivelled and died after being on the receiving end of the stuff I experienced back in the day.
Bully boy my arse....

 

[wizadry]

The kid's got an enormous amount to learn. Clough knows a bit about playing up front. He wanted the lad to play better. What's wrong with that? Has McN watched Matt Done? Look and learn.

There was fuck all wrong with McNultys' goals to games ratio in a team that created next to fuck all.

 

[Cyprus Blade]

Press release from Clough says it was McNulty's fault he got the push.

 

[Pinchy]

There was fuck all wrong with McNultys' goals to games ratio in a team that created next to fuck all.

There was a great deal wrong with his first-touch, involvement and commitment. Matty Done had a better goals ratio and actually contributed to the team as well. Sparky was a passenger on too many occasions. Part of a managers job is to improve his players and there is plenty of scope for that with McNulty.

 

[Blade56]

What happened re the asault in a nightclub?

 

[wizadry]

There was a great deal wrong with his first-touch, involvement and commitment. Matty Done had a better goals ratio and actually contributed to the team as well. Sparky was a passenger on too many occasions. Part of a managers job is to improve his players and there is plenty of scope for that with McNulty.

I agree there's a lot of scope with him but you really can't argue that his finishing is pretty good, although that one at Swindon is on it's way up to meet Simmos' ball. He has a good chance of being a league top goalscorer if given the opportunities, not one game here and one game there.

 

[Pinchy]

I agree there's a lot of scope with him but you really can't argue that his finishing is pretty good, although that one at Swindon is on it's way up to meet Simmos' ball. He has a good chance of being a league top goalscorer if given the opportunities, not one game here and one game there.

Yes mate, but opportunities can't be endless. I'm not against him or writing him off but he has to make a contribution in the games where he doesn't score (unless he's knocking in 30+ like Eoin Doyle, in which case you accept it). He wouldn't be first choice for me at his present stage of development. The same goes for the young midfielder who is 'better than Tony Currie...."

 

[Living In a Fantasy World]

Clough was too harsh on him in post match comments. He was a raw talent coming in and did very well in front of goal this season. There was never any need for some of the comments about him. Same goes for Reed and Adams.

 

[Pinchy]

Bully boy? I don't know whether to laugh or weep when I read guff like this.
A bit of criticism amounts to bullying these days eh?
Poor old MM would have shrivelled and died after being on the receiving end of the stuff I experienced back in the day.
Bully boy my arse....

Apparently the poor darlings are very sensitive these days. They have human rights, you know.

It is quite intolerable for well paid professional sportsman to have their performance analysed critically by their manager. It upsets them. Did you not hear that Louis Reed was unhappy? It showed in his play, apparently. Poor lamb. As for McNulty; How dare the manager suggest that he stops going through the motions and actually joins in the game now and then.

 

[wizadry]

Yes mate, but opportunities can't be endless. I'm not against him or writing him off but he has to make a contribution in the games where he doesn't score (unless he's knocking in 30+ like Eoin Doyle, in which case you accept it). He wouldn't be first choice for me at his present stage of development. The same goes for the young midfielder who is 'better than Tony Currie...."

9 goals in 11 league starts with loads of sub appearances chucked in, never had a straight run of games, i should think you aren't writing him off. If he played all the games this season from the start he would get 25 plus goals easily, there aren't many players who score anywhere near 30 goals in any league, give the lad a chance. He's also only 22 years old.

And your cheap pop at our 17 year old in Reed is just pathetic mate.

 

[wizadry]

Apparently the poor darlings are very sensitive these days. They have human rights, you know.

It is quite intolerable for well paid professional sportsman to have their performance analysed critically by their manager. It upsets them. Did you not hear that Louis Reed was unhappy? It showed in his play, apparently. Poor lamb. As for McNulty; How dare the manager suggest that he stops going through the motions and actually joins in the game now and then.

What's Reed unhappy about? I've not seen that anywhere.

Come on mate, don't stoop so low just because the board have decided to get rid of the messiah that can do no wrong, you're better than that aren't you.

 

[Pinchy]

I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that McNulty would not get 25 goals in a season.

As for Reed, I'm aiming at those who build him up to be something he clearly isn't and may never be, not the lad himself. He has a great deal to learn before he's a proper footballer. At the moment he's got the makings of a slightly more sophisticated Doyle, all sideways and no threat. We've had enough of that.

 

[wizadry]

Apparently the poor darlings are very sensitive these days. They have human rights, you know.

It is quite intolerable for well paid professional sportsman to have their performance analysed critically by their manager. It upsets them. Did you not hear that Louis Reed was unhappy? It showed in his play, apparently. Poor lamb. As for McNulty; How dare the manager suggest that he stops going through the motions and actually joins in the game now and then.

And McNulty wasn't bullied, it was just poor man management. I'm pretty sure the point the opening poster was making wasn't all that serious regarding the bullying.

 

[wizadry]

I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that McNulty would not get 25 goals in a season.

As for Reed, I'm aiming at those who build him up to be something he clearly isn't and may never be, not the lad himself. He has a great deal to learn before he's a proper footballer. At the moment he's got the makings of a slightly more sophisticated Doyle, all sideways and no threat. We've had enough of that.

You must have missed the lovely 25 to 30 yard balls he makes then before he went off form, all of them forwards. The lad has talent, he just needs to keep working hard and his form will return.

 

[gavtheblade]

And McNulty wasn't bullied, it was just poor man management. I'm pretty sure the point the opening poster was making wasn't all that serious regarding the bullying.

It wasn't, it was a comical poke at cloughs man management.

 

[Pinchy]

What's Reed unhappy about? I've not seen that anywhere.

Come on mate, don't stoop so low just because the board have decided to get rid of the messiah that can do no wrong, you're better than that aren't you.

I don't know. One of our contributors said he'd noticed the lad was unhappy and it showed in his game. It was a gratuitous and opportunistic jibe at the manager, of course. One of many. That's what has been stooping low and pathetic recently, not I.

 

[wizadry]

I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that McNulty would not get 25 goals in a season.

I'd take the bet on the basis he gets a certain amount of games, lets say at least 40, or something like 35 starts plus 10 sub appearances. Injury free in a team that actually attacks i'm certain he will get 25.

 

[wizadry]

I don't know. One of our contributors said he'd noticed the lad was unhappy and it showed in his game. It was a gratuitous and opportunistic jibe at the manager, of course. One of many. That's what has been stooping low and pathetic recently, not I.

Sorry mate i haven't seen that. He is out of form but i'm pretty sure he'll get it back. That first half against Oldham was by far his worst performance but he had plenty of good performances in the first half of the season, it's a shame the senior players couldn't step up to the plate.

 

[Grappler]

Sorry mate i haven't seen that. He is out of form but i'm pretty sure he'll get it back. That first half against Oldham was by far his worst performance but he had plenty of good performances in the first half of the season, it's a shame the senior players couldn't step up to the plate.

He had a shocker in that game mate, however he wasn't alone, we were terrible

 

[Pinchy]

Sorry mate i haven't seen that. He is out of form but i'm pretty sure he'll get it back. That first half against Oldham was by far his worst performance but he had plenty of good performances in the first half of the season, it's a shame the senior players couldn't step up to the plate.

I hope Reed is as good as we want him to be one day mate. I think we can agree on that..but for next season (and that's what matters here and now) we need bigger, more athletic, more powerful than him (with a degree of talent as well of course).

We should all remember that young players should be a means to our objective, not our club a means to their objective. I fear that vital distinction gets lost on here from time to time!

 

[wizadry]

I hope Reed is as good as we want him to be one day mate. I think we can agree on that..but for next season (and that's what matters here and now) we need bigger, more athletic, more powerful than him (with a degree of talent as well of course).

We should all remember that young players should be a means to our objective, not our club a means to their objective. I fear that vital distinction gets lost on here from time to time!

It hasn't been lost on me, i just rate the kid while recognising at the same time he's out of form but hopefully he will recover that form, whether that's with us or out on loan isn't upto me.

 

[wizadry]

He had a shocker in that game mate, however he wasn't alone, we were terrible

No mate, you're quite right. Also in that game our second worst signing according to this forum helped to change that game tremendously, yes, you got it, Coutts He was brilliant that second half when he came on along with Scouggs.

 

[Grappler]

No mate, you're quite right. Also in that game our second worst signing according to this forum helped to change that game tremendously, yes, you got it, Coutts He was brilliant that second half when he came on along with Scouggs.

Agree on Coutts, he changed the game the game when he came on.

 

[ghandi]

SeriouslyE="Pinchy, post: 766973, member: 2215"]Apparently the poor darlings are very sensitive these days. They have human rights, you know.

It is quite intolerable for well paid professional sportsman to have their performance analysed critically by their manager. It upsets them. Did you not hear that Louis Reed was unhappy? It showed in his play, apparently. Poor lamb. As for McNulty; How dare the manager suggest that he stops going through the motions and actually joins in the game now and then.[/QUOTE]
Seriously Pinchy give it a rest you are beginning to sound a lot like the erstwhile poster Len De Goey

 

[Houso]

If Nigel deserved the NGE acronym, so does MM I'm afraid. Get rid.