whingers

[chesblade]

The same happened to mcnulty. I was sat behind the net about 4 rows from the front and. 2 idiots were giving him some right abuse, he definitely heard because he looked over and from then on seemed really nervous. We want them to do well and the 1st half was not brilliant but they don't deserve this. It was embarrassing to be a fan,really felt for him

 

[YES Blade]

Can you imagine you are at your place of work you don't perform to the standards your bosses require, and they put you down, doesn't give you a confidence boost does it.

Ask Marc McNulty maybe?

 

[YES Blade]

The same happened to mcnulty. I was sat behind the net about 4 rows from the front and. 2 idiots were giving him some right abuse, he definitely heard because he looked over and from then on seemed really nervous. We want them to do well and the 1st half was not brilliant but they don't deserve this. It was embarrassing to be a fan,really felt for him

Embarrassing to be a fan? Come off it! Name me one club that's fans doesn't get on the backs of their players when they aren't performing?

 

[chesblade]

Maybe so but this was cringworthy and I'm sorry but was totally unnecessary and embarrassing. They aren't fans that go off like they did, was it you have I hit a nerve?

 

[YES Blade]

Maybe so but this was cringworthy and I'm sorry but was totally unnecessary and embarrassing. They aren't fans that go off like they did, was it you have I hit a nerve?

Didn't go today, just bored of all this moaning about fans.

All fans are the same at all 92 league clubs, our lot are no worse or no better.

 

[WorkingtonBlade]

Embarrassing to be a fan? Come off it! Name me one club that's fans doesn't get on the backs of their players when they aren't performing?

I don't think there's one club that doesn't have fans who get on the back of their own players. However, I think that some clubs are far worse for it than others, and that we are one of the worst.

It's got so bad that we can't even have a bad patch within a season without people getting on the backs of the players. Given that all teams have bad patches this means that the fans getting on the backs of the players is now inevitable, every season, whether we're chasing promotion or battling against relegation.

I think that this has a significant impact upon the level of confidence of the players and, given the importance of confidence and the small margins in football, this reduces our chances of success.

The passion of Bramall Lane used to be seen in the game as a real asset to United, and managers always talked of it as a really tough place to go. These days managers talk of the opportunity to get the crowd on the backs of the home team.

We can go on about what great crowds we get for a team in League 1 as much as we like. As long as those crowds get on the back of the team when the going gets tough, rather than supporting the team, they will hinder, not help, our chances of a return to the Championship.

 

[raul]

And yet, the club will happily sell ST,s and the like to these complete and utter bastards.

 

[YES Blade]

I don't think there's one club that doesn't have fans who get on the back of their own players. However, I think that some clubs are far worse for it than others, and that we are one of the worst.

It's got so bad that we can't even have a bad patch within a season without people getting on the backs of the players. Given that all teams have bad patches this means that the fans getting on the backs of the players is now inevitable, every season, whether we're chasing promotion or battling against relegation.

I think that this has a significant impact upon the level of confidence of the players and, given the importance of confidence and the small margins in football, this reduces our chances of success.

The passion of Bramall Lane used to be seen in the game as a real asset to United, and managers always talked of it as a really tough place to go. These days managers talk of the opportunity to get the crowd on the backs of the home team.

We can go on about what great crowds we get for a team in League 1 as much as we like. As long as those crowds get on the back of the team when the going gets tough, rather than supporting the team, they will hinder, not help, our chances of a return to the Championship.

That's the problem, we're Sheffield United in League One for the 4th season and the chances of us going up aren't as high as we all hoped at the start of the season.

Patience is wearing very thin with the prospect of another season in League One, so it's understandable that fans are more critical than some other clubs when things aren't going well.

 

[JJ Sefton]

Were we crap today?

 

[WorkingtonBlade]

That's the problem, we're Sheffield United in League One for the 4th season and the chances of us going up aren't as high as we all hoped at the start of the season.

Patience is wearing very thin with the prospect of another season in League One, so it's understandable that fans are more critical than some other clubs when things aren't going well.

It's absolutely understandable that patience is wearing thin. When a player misplaces a pass the natural instinct is to voice our displeasure - to let them know how we feel. Having paid our money each of us has a choice. Do we go with that instinct, or do we do the difficult thing - swallow it, and shout our support at just the moment when it feels like the last thing we want to do?

It's far from easy - in fact it's really, really hard - but I think when success does come, it will be far more satisfying if each of us can feel that we contributed to it by being supporters, not just reactors.

 

[judge]

What do all you superfans do when the players arent putting it in ?
Just so the rest of us whingers know how to behave

Football is a tough sport and sometimes the detached cosseted pampered little babys need to know that the fans who support them and pay their hard earned money to go and watch them acrually give a shit unlike them
seems to me that to expect the players to try for 90 mins or even for more than two full games is some kind of unrealistic expectation that the council estate pond dwellers from sheffield shouldnt have the right to expect and so what if some of the language they use to express this is a bit unsavoury if you dont like it go to the fucking opera where everyone behaves like a gentleman or a lady

Im sure the players dont give a shit what the fans think of them if they did they would put a shift on from the moment they run out of the tinnel and not when they are 2 down at oldham with the manager reminding them of their responsibilitys

 

[grafikhaus]

That's the problem, we're Sheffield United in League One for the 4th season and the chances of us going up aren't as high as we all hoped at the start of the season.

Patience is wearing very thin with the prospect of another season in League One, so it's understandable that fans are more critical than some other clubs when things aren't going well.

In a nutshell. We're no better or worse than any other fans. It's no use trying to analyse why some Blades react with ill-thought venom to our own players (particularly having shelled out to travel away). It can be summed up - not just for United but for all football fans - in one word. Disappointment.

Football fans never seem to realise that 'tomorrow is another day'. Sure we've had enough reason this season to be disappointed. Starting with the ludicrous bookies making us pre-season favourites to go up, our stop-start performances have led to a constant feeling of 'one step forward, two steps back.'

Some had better get used to it. I sense more than a few more 'disappointments' before this season is out.

 

[GB10]

It's been said so many times before on here but with FFP rules and the difference between our average crowd and the 2nd highest ( about two thirds of ours) ... We should be doing much better than what we are and by that I mean doing a Bristol city on this league.
If my expectations are too high then feel free to shoot me down
However where I am sure expectations don't differ and this will bring me back to the OP of whingers..
1) I expect 100 percent effort every single week from every single player for every single minute of the game
2) I expect from pro footballers at least some elements of quality - and at least the simple things done well
3) I expect that training all week will provide results from set plays etc .
4) we really played entertaining football and went for it a bit more ( second half at Oldham eg)

Yes it's league 1 and no we don't have household names... But my own view is that if we could say honestly that we had a "yes" to all 4of the above and it still didn't work out ... There would be a lot less whingeing ... Not none , but less !!

 

[Rodley]

I don't think there's one club that doesn't have fans who get on the back of their own players. However, I think that some clubs are far worse for it than others, and that we are one of the worst.

It's got so bad that we can't even have a bad patch within a season without people getting on the backs of the players. Given that all teams have bad patches this means that the fans getting on the backs of the players is now inevitable, every season, whether we're chasing promotion or battling against relegation.

I think that this has a significant impact upon the level of confidence of the players and, given the importance of confidence and the small margins in football, this reduces our chances of success.

The passion of Bramall Lane used to be seen in the game as a real asset to United, and managers always talked of it as a really tough place to go. These days managers talk of the opportunity to get the crowd on the backs of the home team.

We can go on about what great crowds we get for a team in League 1 as much as we like. As long as those crowds get on the back of the team when the going gets tough, rather than supporting the team, they will hinder, not help, our chances of a return to the Championship.

Great post.

 

[Rodley]

It's been said so many times before on here but with FFP rules and the difference between our average crowd and the 2nd highest ( about two thirds of ours) ... We should be doing much better than what we are and by that I mean doing a Bristol city on this league.
If my expectations are too high then feel free to shoot me down
However where I am sure expectations don't differ and this will bring me back to the OP of whingers..
1) I expect 100 percent effort every single week from every single player for every single minute of the game
2) I expect from pro footballers at least some elements of quality - and at least the simple things done well
3) I expect that training all week will provide results from set plays etc .
4) we really played entertaining football and went for it a bit more ( second half at Oldham eg)

Yes it's league 1 and no we don't have household names... But my own view is that if we could say honestly that we had a "yes" to all 4of the above and it still didn't work out ... There would be a lot less whingeing ... Not none , but less !!

In my career I can't think of a single week when I've put in 100% effort every single minute of every single day and I like to think I'm a grafter. It's human nature. Some of the bile that is spilled by some SUFC fans is off the scale. Are we giving 100% every game?

 

[Jehovah]

I hope we get to wembley so we can all beat the living shit out of each other again.

 

[Northyorksblade]

Which one were you then? Let me guess... was it you that I told you I thought it might be that Coutts scored our 2nd (everyone near me were asking "who was it?"). 5 mins later after my son checked the scorer I came back to the same man and said "it was Murphy". Was this man you?

No, I was a row further back, but noticed you signing. Phew, I'm still incognito.........to some

 

[YES Blade]

In my career I can't think of a single week when I've put in 100% effort every single minute of every single day and I like to think I'm a grafter. It's human nature. Some of the bile that is spilled by some SUFC fans is off the scale. Are we giving 100% every game?

Don't know what your career is but we ain't talking about putting in 40 hours a week 100% effort. They can dick about in training here and there, but come match day I think it's fine to expect 100% effort for 90 minutes.

 

[Cyprus Blade]

Damn, thought this was a thread aimed at those having a go at those having a go at the fans who are having a go at Nigel who is having a go at the players.

 

[Silent Blade]

No, I was a row further back, but noticed you signing. Phew, I'm still incognito.........to some

Ok

 

[Northyorksblade]

And yet, the club will happily sell ST,s and the like to these complete and utter bastards.

So are they supposed to seek out said bastards and ban them? I'll give them a few names to start with

 

[Northyorksblade]

What do all you superfans do when the players arent putting it in ?
Just so the rest of us whingers know how to behave

Football is a tough sport and sometimes the detached cosseted pampered little babys need to know that the fans who support them and pay their hard earned money to go and watch them acrually give a shit unlike them
seems to me that to expect the players to try for 90 mins or even for more than two full games is some kind of unrealistic expectation that the council estate pond dwellers from sheffield shouldnt have the right to expect and so what if some of the language they use to express this is a bit unsavoury if you dont like it go to the fucking opera where everyone behaves like a gentleman or a lady

Im sure the players dont give a shit what the fans think of them if they did they would put a shift on from the moment they run out of the tinnel and not when they are 2 down at oldham with the manager reminding them of their responsibilitys

Do you think players have a bad game on purpose?

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

I don't think there's one club that doesn't have fans who get on the back of their own players. However, I think that some clubs are far worse for it than others, and that we are one of the worst.

It's got so bad that we can't even have a bad patch within a season without people getting on the backs of the players. Given that all teams have bad patches this means that the fans getting on the backs of the players is now inevitable, every season, whether we're chasing promotion or battling against relegation.

I think that this has a significant impact upon the level of confidence of the players and, given the importance of confidence and the small margins in football, this reduces our chances of success.

The passion of Bramall Lane used to be seen in the game as a real asset to United, and managers always talked of it as a really tough place to go. These days managers talk of the opportunity to get the crowd on the backs of the home team.

We can go on about what great crowds we get for a team in League 1 as much as we like. As long as those crowds get on the back of the team when the going gets tough, rather than supporting the team, they will hinder, not help, our chances of a return to the Championship.

I don't think blame can be aimed at the supporters at all . Its a entertainment business after all , at the end of the day. Also more than most , we have been let down so many times , that patience can wear a little thin . Booing i have no problem with . Individual abuse to any player or the manager is out of order and unproductive . Booing goes back to the roman times , and in the theatre in victorian times . We live in a society of jam today not tomorrow . If players do not like to be booed when we are served up with a crap performance , they have to grow some balls , and man up.

Crap performances , what are fans supposed to do and say . - hard cheese old chaps , better luck next time . We are not Eton , or Harow FC , we are SUFC in a working class football city , which to watch , is not a working class price or sport any more .

Players , management , and boards hinder themselves not us, Also we are always chasing promotion or relegation and succeed in one more than the other in recent times.

Keep the faith and let them know your pleasure or discontent.



UTB.

 

[HillmortonBlade]

Do you think players have a bad game on purpose?

Hans Segers

 

[Northyorksblade]

Hans Segers

So our players let them go two goals up and then scored two because they'd bet on a draw?? Bit risky.

 

[Maidenhead]

If players do not like to be booed when we are served up with a crap performance , they have to grow some balls , and man up.

Crap performances , what are fans supposed to do and say . - hard cheese old chaps , better luck next time . We are not Eton , or Harow FC , we are SUFC in a working class football city , which to watch , is not a working class price or sport any more .


Keep the faith and let them know your pleasure or discontent.



UTB.

Showing discontent the way it was yesterday is no help to anyone.

You sound more like a consumer than a supporter.

FWIW I enjoyed most of the game. First half was nip and tuck and we played well in patches and terribly in others. The difference between the the teams at half time was an almighty cock up from Kennedy and unstoppable shot from distance.

As mentioned elsewhere Murphy, possibly our player of the season, was getting stick for an occasional misplaced pass or for losing the ball when trying to go past a player ( which in yesterdays case was Connor Brown who has always impressed me when he's played against us.)

In the second half we were in complete control and unlucky not to take all three points.

Yes, I moaned to my mates about Clough's ever changing teams and said it's not surprising players lack confidence or look out of place when they only play now and then, referring specifically ro Reed, Kennedy and McNulty, it takes time and a settled side to get a cohesive team and that is the only criticism I would level at Clough but then againI don't know the fitness situation off all the players.

For my money it's a large number of our fans that have to "grow some ball and man up" and get behind the team!

 

[HillmortonBlade]

So our players let them go two goals up and then scored two because they'd bet on a draw?? Bit risky.

Honestly? I think they all do their best, bearing in mind they are all human and we don't really know anything about their personalities/motivation/general mood. The percentages are narrow at the elite end of sport (and elsewhere) and whilst some might question whether we are "elite", these are professional sportsmen of varying abilities. But I am an official "clapper" and show support to the team as a collective and to individual players. I also chunter under my breath and to HB Jnr at missed passes, desperate defending at set pieces, and many other things over the years, but in general terms. I leave the shouting at individuals to NC (and hope he picks it up in training during the week).

 

[Maidenhead]

But I am an official "clapper" and show support to the team as a collective and to individual players. I also chunter under my breath and to HB Jnr at missed passes, desperate defending at set pieces, and many other things over the years, but in general terms. I leave the shouting at individuals to NC (and hope he picks it up in training during the week).

You should have heard this clapper chunter yesterday but you would never have heard any negative that could have been audible to the players ;-)

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Showing discontent the was it was today is no help to anyone.

You sound more like a consumer than a supporter.

FWIW I enjoyed most of the game. First half was nip and tuck and we played well in patches and terribly in others. The difference between the the teams at half time was an almighty cock up from Kennedy and unstoppable shot from distance.

As mentioned elsewhere Murphy, possibly our player of the season, was getting stick for an occasional misplaced pass or for losing the ball when trying to go past a player ( which in yesterdays case was Connor Brown who has always impressed me when he's played against us.)

In the second half we were in complete control and unlucky not to take all three points.

Yes, I moaned to my mates about Clough's ever changing teams and said it's not surprising players lack confidence or look out of place when they only play now and then, referring specifically ro Reed, Kennedy and McNulty, it takes time and a settled side to get a cohesive team and that is the only criticism I would level at Clough but then againI don't know the fitness situation off all the players.

For my money it's a large number of our fans that have to "grow some ball and man up" and get behind the team!

Maidenhead , agree with you but supporters are consumers and customers in todays game . Its a business . I was in agreement with Clough yesterday , in his team selection , and i would have taken a draw before the game . Having a moan is part of life , but players , sometimes look they have just met in the car park of the Horse and Jockey . If we were sat mid table in the championship , many still would not be satisfied . It does take time to get a cohesive , settled side , but its not a situation of 5 games gone , more like 5 to go.

I have no problem of anyone who shows there discontent at half time or full time , i haven't a problem with that , verbal abuse when the match is in progress i have.

We are were we are , and promotion for me will be more relief than joy. Promotion will be achieved.

UTB

 

[Maidenhead]

Maidenhead , agree with you but supporters are consumers and customers in todays game .

UTB

We are in general agreement but I can't go with this.

I am a Morrison's customer and a B&Q customer etc but I am a United supporter and still would be if my season ticket was for the Northern Counties East League whereas I would happily change brands in any other part of my life.

If the general feeling is that supporters are also customers it's no wonder that football has lost it's soul