Kyle Walker

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Possibly because he didn't break into the first team as expected, usually when a player gets around the squad or close to the bench they get the attention of the agents, it didn't happen, the involvement of an agent increases the likelyhood that another club would have been found had united not offered a contract, which they didn't...

If you want a professional football career, then you need an agent, it works both ways when players are sold, to, let's say "spurs" for 5 million and 4 million respectively, our club snatched their hands off that day, 9mill was the rumoured fee for the kyles....

You have to have the skill to match the fee, possibly answering the question weather he wasn't good enough...
 



How much do you think he's on now? You think the poor blighter has enough until the end of the month? That would be enough for me. I would have never left United in his position.
 
Remember not all of those players from the youth team had agents, and because of this some don't play professionally anymore, wont name any names but one of them I knew thinks slew got a great deal, and he also put it down to the lack of an agent that he had to give up playing...
"Sorry lad, we want to offer you a full time deal - think you're going to be the next Michael Owen - but you don't have an agent so we're going to have to let you go."
 
"Sorry lad, we want to offer you a full time deal - think you're going to be the next Michael Owen - but you don't have an agent so we're going to have to let you go."


Its easy to point out the obvious, but if you'd read what I wrote, he didn't make the first team, or the bench, meaning not good enough was he, hence no agent, understand me?

David platt was released by manchester united, got a contract at crewe, ended up playing for England in the semi final at italia 90.... youre comment is quite clever, but some players do slip through the net...
 
Its easy to point out the obvious, but if you'd read what I wrote, he didn't make the first team, or the bench, meaning not good enough was he, hence no agent, understand me?
"he also put it down to the lack of an agent that he had to give up playing..."
 
"Sorry lad, we want to offer you a full time deal - think you're going to be the next Michael Owen - but you don't have an agent so we're going to have to let you go."

"he also put it down to the lack of an agent that he had to give up playing..."

Yes, because the agent negotiates a deal with the club while you're in the youth team, had an agent picked him up he might have got the contract...

Think the point you're trying to make is that the player wasn't good enough to break into the squad, attract an agent, and get signed professionally.. I understand you're point of view is that he clearly wasn't good enough, clearly that's what the club thought, youll be right that we didnt sign him cause he wasn't good enough nine times out of ten..

All I posted for was to let people know that the players view agents very differently to the way fans view them, its a case of as soon as a decent agent signs them they'll have a career as a footballer professionally, they can relax then, because believe me when they and their families put years and years into it from being a young lad, its devastating when they don't make it..
 
Yes, because the agent negotiates a deal with the club while you're in the youth team, had an agent picked him up he might have got the contract...

Think the point you're trying to make is that the player wasn't good enough to break into the squad, attract an agent, and get signed professionally.. I understand you're point of view is that he clearly wasn't good enough, clearly that's what the club thought, youll be right that we didnt sign him cause he wasn't good enough nine times out of ten..

All I posted for was to let people know that the players view agents very differently to the way fans view them, its a case of as soon as a decent agent signs them they'll have a career as a footballer professionally, they can relax then, because believe me when they and their families put years and years into it from being a young lad, its devastating when they don't make it..

Tezz, I take your point - my view is that I think Slew's agent took the short-term route regarding the cash, rather than a long term view of the player's career.
 
Rumoured to be on his way to Manchester United in the summer for £20m.

The next question is one that you've all already just asked in your head before even getting to this part of the post; Do we have a sell on clause?!
I don't think they would be interested in him, unless they think they can't get Clyne but I believe we do but as with Naughton is on the amount over what we sold him for.
 
I don't think they would be interested in him, unless they think they can't get Clyne but I believe we do but as with Naughton is on the amount over what we sold him for.

That'd be ok then because the reason we got naff all for Naughton was because he was the one who made up £8m of the transfer fee and only sold to Swansea for £4m.

Walker was the one on the cheap so we could be quids in.
 
That'd be ok then because the reason we got naff all for Naughton was because he was the one who made up £8m of the transfer fee and only sold to Swansea for £4m.

Walker was the one on the cheap so we could be quids in.
Possibly, but I can't see it happening, the only reason I could see if is it LvG is determined to make his 3-5-2 work but then you'd still go for Clyne for a similar fee. Hope it comes off for our sakes.
 



How much do you think he's on now? You think the poor blighter has enough until the end of the month? That would be enough for me. I would have never left United in his position.

Football isn't purely about money, he probably wants to win a few medals and being at Man U would give him a greater opportunity to do that.
 
Rumoured to be on his way to Manchester United in the summer for £20m.

The next question is one that you've all already just asked in your head before even getting to this part of the post; Do we have a sell on clause?!

Great news! If we had say a 10% clause in his contract and made £2million, that would count as another £2 million that the Prince and his chaps had invested.
Thanks guys.
 
He'd be a typical Manchester United signing - a good player but nowhere near a top player.
 
Jordan Slew couldn't wait to leave Bramall Lane and start living the high life, he wasn't good enough and the move was too soon. But I think, from his personal perspective he was well advised by his agent. He wouldn't have made it if he'd stayed with Utd and would be plying his trade in the lower leagues by now.

Which is exactly the position he currently finds himself in, but he has the significant financial benefit of the three year contract his agent 'defrauded' from Blackburn Rovers, by misrepresenting his clients ability to play football, which should help to keep him warm at night *;)


*Not that I expect he's got any of it left!
 
Jordan Slew couldn't wait to leave Bramall Lane and start living the high life, he wasn't good enough and the move was too soon. But I think, from his personal perspective he was well advised by his agent. He wouldn't have made it if he'd stayed with Utd and would be plying his trade in the lower leagues by now.

Which is exactly the position he currently finds himself in, but he has the significant financial benefit of the three year contract his agent 'defrauded' from Blackburn Rovers, by misrepresenting his clients ability to play football, which should help to keep him warm at night *;)


*Not that I expect he's got any of it left!

On the contrary though, do you think that if he'd stayed with us and let us help nurture him, he might have gone on to be more successful?

We were only just breaking him in to the first team and giving him all the training and nurturing he could need.

Yes he would have had to play in a lower league for at least one more year but he could have still got a move, and a better move, further down the line.
 
On the contrary though, do you think that if he'd stayed with us and let us help nurture him, he might have gone on to be more successful?

We were only just breaking him in to the first team and giving him all the training and nurturing he could need.

Yes he would have had to play in a lower league for at least one more year but he could have still got a move, and a better move, further down the line.

No and that's my point really, I think Slew was his own worst enemy. You could say he was the sort of lad who didn't allow a lack of ability to undermine his self confidence. He was a Billy Big Bollocks and would never have made it, predominantly because he'd convinced himself he already had. Consequently his agent had Blackburns pants down and earned his client relatively decent money, the like of which he would have never seen at Bramall Lane.

I agree 100% that the scenario you describe is the best way forward for any talented young player and will ultimately reap richer rewards. But aswell as talent, that young player has to be grounded, patient and have something between his ears, which I think sadly, is an increasingly rare combination amongst todays celebrity obsessed generation.:(
 
This should be a good one.

Spurs sell him for 20+ million and Dan Levy makes sure we pay his Spurs loyalty bonus of £5m because he had it in micro print in the original contract. We'll probably have to shell a further mill to Rosie (although I've heard she takes Bakers Meaty Meals these days).
 



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