Kevin Gage - summarising on Radio Sheffield

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Keith Edwards - not sure he even likes football these days, have little respect for his contributions.
Be interested to hear what Gage has to say, but in the long run, does it really matter what outsiders think!
 
Fulwood Blade said:
bit monotone in delivery - but excellent content.

I like Keith Edwards as he tells it as it is, but a refreshing change with KG.

Perhaps RS needs to use him more often?

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Yes, thought he did well: articulate and concise.

I may be in a minority on here, along with LSF, who does not rate Edwards' summarising. I find him repetitive and contradictory. He complains incessantly when he perceives we play it long too often (especially under Wilson, but not so much under his pal Adams); now under Clough he moans about over-passing with no end product. So yes, agree, rotation would be good.
 
The Bohemian said:
Yes, thought he did well: articulate and concise.

I may be in a minority on here, along with LSF, who does not rate Edwards' summarising. I find him repetitive and contradictory. He complains incessantly when he perceives we play it long too often (especially under Wilson, but not so much under his pal Adams); now under Clough he moans about over-passing with no end product. So yes, agree, rotation would be good.
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No doubt Keith Edwards moans like we do , watching the match - why , because he is a fan.

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I was in glossop yesterday and listened to the first half on rs
was impressed with gagey his comments were completely juxtaposed to giddings who seemed to find negatives in everything summing up their goal as a brilliant cross begore gage pointed out it took a wicked deflection wrongfooting the entire defence and landed right at the feet of their striker

Ive often wondered why we get keith edwards who seems to be held at gunpoint and they get jon pearson who basically does the job no better than the someone dragged from the stand would but at least is happy to be there
 
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Cyprus Blade said:
Based on the 44 mins I heard I thought Gage did alright and to be honest he was a lot less irritating than Keith Edwards who, at times, seems tired of life (which is forgivable) and tired of watching United (which isn't). :p
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To be fair to Keith Edwards , all fans at some point in there mindset , have been tired of watching the blades this season , and thats coming from someone , who spends hard earned money watching them both home and away. Don't here him often , but cannot understand why we are on his back,

UTB
 
Come on Gage was indeed good but he witnessed probably the best away performance of the season. Had Edwards been co-comm on this one he would have been full of praise.

Edwards knew how to finish and what a good striker should do (although in the game today he'd have had to work a lot harder) so he gets frustrated (as a genuine fan) when we struggle to get enough players forward to be a threat.

Contrast that with yeaterday when there was at least 3-4 players attacking the box when the crosses came in. Totally different from most of the season with one isolated forward trying to do it all on their own.

Also some of the games Edwards has witnessed have been piss poor.

For those of is that saw Edwards play - there haven't been many who were as good a natural goal scorer as that feller.

btw - what a difference Done has made? Movement, disruption, belief, confidence. Exciting stuff - Who was it on this forum that was constantly banging on about we were a couple of good strikers short of a decent team? ;)
 
Kenilworth said:
btw - what a difference Done has made? Movement, disruption, belief, confidence. Exciting stuff - Who was it on this forum that was constantly banging on about we were a couple of good strikers short of a decent team? ;)
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yes some people have been banging on about a striker for ages, but it is (a) finding the right one (b) one we can afford (c) he has the brain power to try harder than where he was before and not just take the money (d) is allowed to play his natural game.

Yesterdays game was NC picking a narrow team to counteract Bristol - well done to him.

We all know Clough changes the team to suit the opposition, and I expect something very similar ant Notts C on Tuesday.

Big question: can we do it at home against weaker opposition that come to close us down? Let's hope the final jigsaw pieces are in place between now and the end of the season.

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Slightly off-topic but I'd like to hear Peter Alliss doing a football commentary, then we'd hear it like it is, I think his reaction to the cheating would be hilarious.

With ex-pros, like Lineker, Shearer, Sauvage and black and white era relicts like Motson they are too close to the game/industry to be able to see the wood for the trees. Summed up by a generalised 'quote'....."He got a touch, so he deserved to go down"

btw I don't mind Edwards and I think Gage was very good yesterday, what we think he'd have sounded like had we lost 3-1 remains to be seen....
 
I don't mind if it is Edwards or Gage both seem to do a decent job, I don't understand why Edwards gets so much criticism from a section of the fans all he does is honestly tell it like it is. I do understand if we are dog shit that some will not want to hear it but don't have a go at the commentator for the teams poor displays, I'd much rather hear a honest fella than a screaming idiot like piggy Pearson telling everyone his favoured team are world beaters.
 
Fulwood Blade said:
We all know Clough changes the team to suit the opposition, and I expect something very similar ant Notts C on Tuesday.
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I disagree with that Fullers. Clough doesn't change for the opposition. His view is that his team should be good enough to overcome them. They do less analysis than previous incumbents on the opposition.

One of the reasons we have lost so frequently to lower position opposition is that we have stuck rigidly to a lone striker and keeping it tight to begin with (works better vs champ or prem teams as the onus is on them to break us down) instead of battering them from the first minute and draining their confidence. The longer the game goes on without us scoring the more confident those teams become and the more anxious we get. Cue the sucker punch.

Done has altered that with his movement anticipation and confidence. Note the way he played in Brayford for the first goal then bust a gut to get to the front post where he picked up the loose ball after a decent Holt strike and a really good save from the BC keeper. Done looked suspiciously off side btw.
 
My biggest criticism Of Keith Edwards as part of the commentary team is his constant preaching about what he doesn't like about how we play in stead of telling us what is happening in the match. There are enough breaks in play, such as substitutions, injury stoppages, half time etc to give his opinion rather than leaving us not knowing what is happening in the game (often known as COMMENTARY).
His current predictions of what will happen in the games is legendary, comments like he can't see United scoring just before we turn a 2-0 deficit into a 3-2 win and another recent one where he predicted that our opposition couldn't score just before they equalised.

Please note that my criticism of Keith's ability here are only related to his commentary skills. As a player he was remarkable and as a person he was very modest and courteous to young and old fans alike, worthy of the legend status he so rightly holds
 
s4-blade said:
Can't we just have Edwards and Gage together? Either as two summarisers or just kick Staton, Giddings and Buchan the fuck out.
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I think that the RS commentators get a rough deal on here, you only have to listen to opposition comms to realise how much better the RS boys are. That said, Giddings in particular has an ability to make us sound like we are due to concede any second. There was one shot Bristol City had yesterday where he screamed, "HE SHOOTS!!!" and Gage piped up saying the shot was always going well wide. Yet for all the world it sounded like a certain goal.

Buchan is similarly shouty when it might not always be the right call, but I have to say Rob Staton has really improved and is every bit as good as Paul Walker is now, who I think will have a good career in TV commentary.

Back to co-comms, and I thought Gage did a really clear and concise job. What he said was clearly well thought out, and as it turned out, bang on the money. So much better than the pig Pearson whose sole job it appears is to scream over the comms if they manage to actually score. Edwards is good too, but his perpetual tempting fate does my head in. As soon as he said Gillingham were never going to score last week you could bet your arse that they would. He gives his views without malice and with the example of Jamie Murphy last season it sometimes has a great positive effect.
 
metalblade said:
I don't understand why Edwards gets so much criticism...all he does is honestly tell it like it is...I'd much rather hear a honest fella than a screaming idiot like piggy Pearson telling everyone his favoured team are world beaters.
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Not often I agree with metalblade, but this is spot on for me. I don't understand the criticism he gets either. I often agree with his comments.

The difference in Radio Sheffield 'expert summarisers' sums up United and Wednesday in a nutshell. United have a measured, self deprecating realist, while the pigs have an over enthusiastic, shouty optimist.
 
I have more respect for the views of anyone who has actually played the game over some jumped up jock. There are exceptions such as Motson but in the main if you want to know what is actually going better ask the guys who used to do it for a living.
 
Bladesway said:
I have more respect for the views of anyone who has actually played the game over some jumped up jock. There are exceptions such as Motson but in the main if you want to know what is actually going better ask the guys who used to do it for a living.
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Can't remember what it was on but some ex pro said the commentator was there to tell us what is happening, the ex pro to explain why it happened.
 
Hodgyman said:
My biggest criticism Of Keith Edwards as part of the commentary team is his constant preaching about what he doesn't like about how we play in stead of telling us what is happening in the match. There are enough breaks in play, such as substitutions, injury stoppages, half time etc to give his opinion rather than leaving us not knowing what is happening in the game (often known as COMMENTARY).
His current predictions of what will happen in the games is legendary, comments like he can't see United scoring just before we turn a 2-0 deficit into a 3-2 win and another recent one where he predicted that our opposition couldn't score just before they equalised.

Please note that my criticism of Keith's ability here are only related to his commentary skills. As a player he was remarkable and as a person he was very modest and courteous to young and old fans alike, worthy of the legend status he so rightly holds
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Have a triple like!!!!!
 
Hodgyman said:
My biggest criticism Of Keith Edwards as part of the commentary team is his constant preaching about what he doesn't like about how we play in stead of telling us what is happening in the match. There are enough breaks in play, such as substitutions, injury stoppages, half time etc to give his opinion rather than leaving us not knowing what is happening in the game (often known as COMMENTARY).
His current predictions of what will happen in the games is legendary, comments like he can't see United scoring just before we turn a 2-0 deficit into a 3-2 win and another recent one where he predicted that our opposition couldn't score just before they equalised.

Please note that my criticism of Keith's ability here are only related to his commentary skills. As a player he was remarkable and as a person he was very modest and courteous to young and old fans alike, worthy of the legend status he so rightly holds
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Northyorksblade said:
Have a triple like!!!!!
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Spot on, I like Kieth and would love to sit beside him at a match were I can also watch the game while listening to his story's about the trip down or how boring the match is because then I would also be able to see for my self what was happening on the field.
But, when I can hear the boos the moans and the cheers in the background while he's explaining at length the same old how it was in his day, and then after what seems like an eternity to be told by the "commentator"? that I'VE MISSED NOTHING !!!!! .....is totally INFURIATING
 



Gage was good, but in the long run Saturdays wouldn't be the same without Keith Edwards as the co-commentator, miserable git though he is at times. I look forward to welcoming him back and hearing about his dodgy hip.
 
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