Kennedy, better than Maguire?

[BeardedSaXon]

Might be controversial and a bit early to tell but was wondering if anyone thought Kennedy might be a better prospect then Maguire.

He seems solid and from what I've heard from him over the last few days he seems to have a good head on his shoulders and is willing to fight to keep his place in the starting 11 (personally I hope he does).

I remember when he was playing in the youth team alongside Maguire and thought he always looked the better of the two to be honest.

Keep the faith in the youth and they will give 100% more than any one we might (probably won't) bring in in this transfer window. If they would prefer to go to a bigger club North of the border and play in a shite league rather than fight for the red and White and get us back to where we belong then we don't want or need them.

If we can get more players into our team like Kennedy who is young, hungry and more importantly knows about our club and everything we fight for then I say get them in and give them a chance. Kennedy has earned his from all he has had to go through during his short career and I hope he continues to play for us for a long time to come.

UTB & FTP

 

[wizadry]

For me,yes,Kennedy will be better eventually,aslong as he chooses the right career path.Maguire is good,but i said all along is level is Championship at best.Kennedy is a good old fashioned Centre back and i hope that doesn't go against him as i know the old fashioned ones are a dying breed at the top level.

 

[BeardedSaXon]

Unfortunately that's what happens when you have a good old fashioned ex centre back on your coaching staff. He can only be taught what the teacher knows...let's hope he hasn't taught him to use his elbows haha

 

[highpeakblade]

One advantage Kennedy has over Maguire for me is that he more agile. Despite him being an old fashioned CB he is of the right build and isn't limited, he has a good turn of pace and won't get turned easily.

Defo early days but another top class prospect and I don't know how is in charge of coaching defenders at the lane but they are doing something right!

 

[Deleted member 875]

The only thing i have concerns about regarding Terry Kennedy is his injury record

 

[JohnDenver]

I'd be amazed if Kennedy ends up where Maguire has. But he could well end up like Butler (not meant in a bad way). A stalwart defender in the first division with the odd Championship foray.

If he was a bit quicker or taller he could be worth serious money. But he's a born defender, of that there's no doubt.

 

[Revolution]

Too early to say.

 

[Pittsburg Blade]

There was nothing to beat the sight of Harry striding forward out of defense but he committed some right howlers at the back occasionally. I don't think Kennedy has put a foot wrong yet has he?

 

[Sirius]

I'd be amazed if Kennedy ends up where Maguire has. But he could well end up like Butler (not meant in a bad way). A stalwart defender in the first division with the odd Championship foray.

If he was a bit quicker or taller he could be worth serious money. But he's a born defender, of that there's no doubt.

Joe Shaw with a bite your legs attitude.

Now that he is fit, I think we will see the best of young Kennedy

 

[gavtheblade]

Might be controversial and a bit early to tell but was wondering if anyone thought Kennedy might be a better prospect then Maguire.

He seems solid and from what I've heard from him over the last few days he seems to have a good head on his shoulders and is willing to fight to keep his place in the starting 11 (personally I hope he does).

I remember when he was playing in the youth team alongside Maguire and thought he always looked the better of the two to be honest.

Keep the faith in the youth and they will give 100% more than any one we might (probably won't) bring in in this transfer window. If they would prefer to go to a bigger club North of the border and play in a shite league rather than fight for the red and White and get us back to where we belong then we don't want or need them.

If we can get more players into our team like Kennedy who is young, hungry and more importantly knows about our club and everything we fight for then I say get them in and give them a chance. Kennedy has earned his from all he has had to go through during his short career and I hope he continues to play for us for a long time to come.

UTB & FTP

I've a lot of respect for the lad, he's been in the shadow of players for a few seasons and could easily have pissed off and gone down the divisions.but fair play to him or clough in sticking his heels in,his chance has come,and he has not looked out of his depth

 

[grafikhaus]

he seems to have a good head on his shoulders

An essential attribute in a Central Defender! Seriously, I thought the same at the Preston game. While not having the physical presence of HM, he's far more mobile and is turning into a good 'un. Did he play in the 2011 YCF alongside HM? (Talking of which, can somebody post the respective line-ups (us and MUFC) so we can 'see where they are now'?)

 

[LSF]

I like Terry, old fashioned no nonsense defender. Always time for that type of throwback player.
As good as, or likely to be better one day than HM?
LoL!

 

[shorehamview]

Unfortunately that's what happens when you have a good old fashioned ex centre back on your coaching staff. He can only be taught what the teacher knows...let's hope he hasn't taught him to use his elbows haha

It's true that he can only be taught what the teacher knows, but perhaps the teacher knows more than he put into practice as a player? Not every good manager was a good player, there are many managers who had a very limited playing career...

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Too early to say.

Revolution . you are the correct and best statement . It is just good and positive that we can make the comparison between them both. As Sirius said , very much Joe Shaw type , which can only be good for the blades .

UTB

 

[Silent Blade]

(Talking of which, can somebody post the respective line-ups (us and MUFC) so we can 'see where they are now'?)

1st leg

Blades: Long, Montgomery, Barry, Harriott, Maguire, Kennedy, Gregory, Whitehouse, Ironside, Slew, McFadzean.
Subs: Pomares, Willis, Wilkinson, Martin, Ahmadi.

Manchester United: Johnstone, M. Keane, McGinty, Thorpe, Fornasier, Tunnicliffe, Lingard, Pogba, W. Keane, Morrison, Van Velzen.
Subs: Massacci, Coll, Cofie, Fryers, Lawrence.

Same first 11 for both teams in 2nd leg

 

[blader]

Seen as they're the same age, and Maguire has racked up over 100 appearances for us and earned a muti-million pound deal to a Premier League club, after being in the league 1 team of the year and winning our player of the year in three consecutive seasons.... I'd say it's unlikely. Kennedy looks a soli, typical league 1 defender. However, he doesn't have any of the attributes which made Maguire look head and shoulders above the rest. I'm happy with TK at the back, but better than HM? Seems incredibly unlikely.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Seen as they're the same age, and Maguire has racked up over 100 appearances for us and earned a muti-million pound deal to a Premier League club, after being in the league 1 team of the year and winning our player of the year in three consecutive seasons.... I'd say it's unlikely. Kennedy looks a soli, typical league 1 defender. However, he doesn't have any of the attributes which made Maguire look head and shoulders above the rest. I'm happy with TK at the back, but better than HM? Seems incredibly unlikely.

I'm sure every player who we sell gains an additional 10 FIFA points as soon as they walk out the door.
We've yet to see where Harry takes his career, yes he's at Hull. Not playing, and not looking like he's in the immediate plans. Come next season they could easily both be playing at the same level with TK the one with the momentum.

 

[Bladesway]

Too early to say.

What the rev says. Regards Harry, he's 21 theres no way anyone on here can say what level he will fit in 12 months time let alone throughout his career. Centre halves develop later sometimes, like goalkeepers. Look at Kilgallon, at 21 had the world at his feet and ended up knocking around between the Championship and League One.

 

[Pinchy]

It's true that he can only be taught what the teacher knows, but perhaps the teacher knows more than he put into practice as a player? Not every good manager was a good player, there are many managers who had a very limited playing career...

Yes, but there's a limit. No-one would dream, to give a wildly absurd example, of appointing a semi-professional, non-league, reserve team goalkeeper as manager, would they?...

 

[Bladesway]

Yes, but there's a limit. No-one would dream, to give a wildly absurd example, of appointing a semi-professional, non-league, reserve team goalkeeper as manager, would they?...

That the one that got us to within a kick of the Premier League per chance? You can argue his style but don't blame him for not getting us up. His team was dismantled mid season and yet he still got us to within 3 points of automatic promotion and to a play off final.

 

[sitwell]

I'm sure every player who we sell gains an additional 10 FIFA points as soon as they walk out the door.
We've yet to see where Harry takes his career, yes he's at Hull. Not playing, and not looking like he's in the immediate plans. Come next season they could easily both be playing at the same level with TK the one with the momentum.

And Harry earning 10 times his salary
I think they are both good centre halves ,personally I think Maguire is premiership quality ,and Kennedy has the potential eventually.

 

[sitwell]

That the one that got us to within a kick of the Premier League per chance? You can argue his style but don't blame him for not getting us up. His team was dismantled mid season and yet he still got us to within 3 points of automatic promotion and to a play off final.

With the players he had at his disposal he failed miserably ,as did Wilson.

 

[Bladesway]

With the players he had at his disposal he failed miserably ,as did Wilson.

Dont agree. Have your team ripped apart and of course you are going to struggle. I know his name prompts frothing at the mouth but until after that play off final you couldn't knock Blackwell. As for Wilson didn't put a foot wrong until his top scorer was sent to clink and his back up plan got injured. Then in his second season Mystic Kev sold his top scorer and then sacked him at a ridiculous time.

 

[Pinchy]

That the one that got us to within a kick of the Premier League per chance? You can argue his style but don't blame him for not getting us up. His team was dismantled mid season and yet he still got us to within 3 points of automatic promotion and to a play off final.

No, you can't argue his style. It was inarguably, unassailably and unquestionably horrible, mind-numbing Hoof at its awful worst. He reduced a decent, reasonably talented midfielder Stephen Quinn to the role of Elpiton alongside the hapless trudger Montgomery - Quinn has since said that his career went backwards under Semipro and Quickfix Mickey.

I do blame him. I blame him for third-world poverty, the Black Death, Thatcher and the common cold.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

With the players he had at his disposal he failed miserably ,as did Wilson.

His wage bill was incredible in comparison to the other teams in the league. Automatics should have been attained while he was in the hottest. He failed and played God awful football.

 

[Bladesway]

No, you can't argue his style. It was inarguably, unassailably and unquestionably horrible, mind-numbing Hoof at its awful worst. He reduced a decent, reasonably talented midfielder Stephen Quinn to the role of Elpiton alongside the hapless trudger Montgomery - Quinn has since said that his career went backwards under Semipro and Quickfix Mickey.

I do blame him. I blame him for third-world poverty, the Black Death, Thatcher and the common cold.

Which says more about you than anything else.

 

[JohnDenver]

With the players he had at his disposal he failed miserably ,as did Wilson.

I wouldn't call coming third a miserable failure for either manager. Bryan Robson was a true miserable failure - the others were near misses.

I could tolerate Blackwell's football only if he brought success. It didn't, and what he (and Birch) did in the seasons following is the reason we're in Div1.

Clough's forward planning saved an impoverished Derby from the fate we've suffered. In contrast, Blackwell's methods and short termism drove us to the edge.

 

[grafikhaus]

1st leg

Blades: Long (Been on loan at Oxford), Montgomery, Barry (is it Aaron? If so, at Derry City) , Harriott (Hayes & Yeading FC), Maguire (Hull City), Kennedy (Sheffield United), Gregory, Whitehouse (Captain in 2011 Final. Last seen at Notts County), Ironside (Alfreton), Slew (Currently on loan at Port Vale), McFadzean (Loan at Burton?).
Subs: Pomares (haven't a clue), Willis (currently still with Blades?), Wilkinson, Martin, Ahmadi.

Manchester United: Johnstone, M. Keane, McGinty (Loan at Halifax FC), Thorpe, Fornasier (Sampdoria) Tunnicliffe (on loan at Blackburn), Lingard (on loan at Brighton), Pogba (Juventus), W. Keane, Morrison (cunt), Van Velzen (Utrecht).
Subs: Massacci, Coll, Cofie (on loan with us for 16 games. Now at Molde, Norway), Fryers, Lawrence.

Same first 11 for both teams in 2nd leg

Ta, Silent. I've done all the difficult ones, anybody fill in the 'easy' ones?

 

[Bladesway]

I wouldn't call coming third a miserable failure for either manager. Bryan Robson was a true miserable failure - the others were near misses.

I could tolerate Blackwell's football only if he brought success. It didn't, and what he (and Birch) did in the seasons following is the reason we're in Div1.

Clough's forward planning saved an impoverished Derby from the fate we've suffered. In contrast, Blackwell's methods and short termism drove us to the edge.

Im sorry nothing Blackwell did led us to where we are. Everything McCabe did is why we are here.

 

[JohnDenver]

Im sorry nothing Blackwell did led us to where we are. Everything McCabe did is why we are here.

The squad Blackwell left us with got us relegated. McCabe is to blame too, but we should never have been anywhere near relegation with the budget we had.