Team and Formation v Preston?

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There is a huge temptation to stick with an unchanged team but can we really afford to leave Murphy and J.Wallace on the bench for a vital league game?
Should we stick with 4-5-1 or revert to 4-4-2 as we're at home and likely to face a Preston team who'll be happy with a point?
Will we sign anyone before Saturday and if so should they come straight in?

My team (assuming no signings):-
Howard
Flynn Kennedy McCeveley Harris
JCR Reed Doyle Scougall Murphy
McNulty
Subs:- Turner, Alcock, McGahey, J.Wallace, Adams, Baxter, Higdon
 



To be fair Pedro, when we were on the amazing run last season you could name the basis of the team every week.

Howard, Brayford, Maguire, Collins, Harris, Doyle, Scougal, Baxter, Coady, Flynn and Murphy. Changes seemed to be made only when actually necessary.
We knew the best team and stuck with it where possible with others (Davies/Porter) filling in as required.
 
Haven't we got to wait to see all the flood of quality real signings that we really are going to make this transfer window?
 
i'd risk a few changes, back five remains the same, although i'd bring Brayford in for Flynn if we get him in before Thursday.

Howard
Brayford - Tel - McEveley - Harris
JCR - Jose - Reed - Che Adams
Murphy - McNults
 
IOM Blade said:
-----------------McNulty
Reed--McNulty-Reed--McNulty
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-------McNulty----------Reed
McNulty----------------------------Reed
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Just to be clear, I hope he plays Reed and McNulty.
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I think Reed is a better keeper, otherwise spot on mate...
 
We have a squad choc full of quality footballers, they just don't seem interested in playing league football. Which is a shame because they'd walk the league if they approached every game with the mindset and readiness they did v QPR and Southampton
 
Howard

Alcock, McEveley, Kennedy.

Flynn, Wallace, Doyle, Reed, Harris

Baxter, McNulty.

There's a lot of intelligence in that team.

Murphy would be an incredible sub when they are tired, as will Higdon and maybe Adams. Run the legs off 'em in the last 20 minutes. Attack 'em for the first 70 minutes too!

BTW 3-5-2 is a very solid formation defensively. It can be played defensively as well as offensively but the least it gives us is 2 up front.
 



SwissBlade said:
i'd risk a few changes, back five remains the same, although i'd bring Brayford in for Flynn if we get him in before Thursday.

Howard
Brayford - Tel - McEveley - Harris
JCR - Jose - Reed - Che Adams
Murphy - McNults
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Brayford?!?! Do you know something we don't?....
 
Sothall_Blade said:
There is a huge temptation to stick with an unchanged team but can we really afford to leave Murphy and J.Wallace on the bench for a vital league game?
Should we stick with 4-5-1 or revert to 4-4-2 as we're at home and likely to face a Preston team who'll be happy with a point?
Will we sign anyone before Saturday and if so should they come straight in?

My team (assuming no signings):-
Howard
Flynn Kennedy McCeveley Harris
JCR Reed Doyle Scougall Murphy
McNulty
Subs:- Turner, Alcock, McGahey, J.Wallace, Adams, Baxter, Higdon
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Just to echo the thoughts of a couple of others on the thread,i just really hope we play McNulty and Reed,bring Murphy back and we will beat Preston aslong as we play with a higher tempo from the start,we have nothing to fear.

As alcoblade said on another thread-Attack....attack....attack attack attack.
 
Woodwardfan said:
Howard

Alcock, McEveley, Kennedy.

Flynn, Wallace, Doyle, Reed, Harris

Baxter, McNulty.

There's a lot of intelligence in that team.

Murphy would be an incredible sub when they are tired, as will Higdon and maybe Adams. Run the legs off 'em in the last 20 minutes. Attack 'em for the first 70 minutes too!

BTW 3-5-2 is a very solid formation defensively. It can be played defensively as well as offensively but the least it gives us is 2 up front.
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I think the biggest weakness of the 3-5-2 formation is the lack of width. Sometimes even JCR and Murphy struggles to create out wide although they are supported by full backs. How much do you think Flynn and Harris would create individually down their sides, without being supported by any other wide players? You need exactly the right kind of full backs to make it work, and you also need creativity, movement and goal threats in midfield as well as up front.

I like Sothall's team, but will Preston be more intent on exploiting our lack of height than QPR were?
 
Jean Hatchett up front, flanked by Caroline Criado-Perez and Karen Ingala-Smith on the wings

pick a random selection of feminists with pitchforks and placards for the rest of the team.


Oh, sorry you meant vs Preston North End. I thought you meant tactics vs Prestons of Bolton.......
 
SwissBlade said:
i'd risk a few changes, back five remains the same, although i'd bring Brayford in for Flynn if we get him in before Thursday.

Howard
Brayford - Tel - McEveley - Harris
JCR - Jose - Reed - Che Adams
Murphy - McNults
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What is the likeliness of us getting Brayford? genuine question
 
RedandWhite said:
What is the likeliness of us getting Brayford? genuine question
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It'll come down to Cardiff accepting any bid we make (or have made). Then it's over to Brayford. I get the impression that he wants to be at the lane and perhaps then, money isn't a motivator in the short term.

Let's see what happens...
 
SwissBlade said:
It'll come down to Cardiff accepting any bid we make (or have made). Then it's over to Brayford. I get the impression that he wants to be at the lane and perhaps then, money isn't a motivator in the short term.

Let's see what happens...
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Bearded one come home. - Or have you shaved now Swiss?
 
Bergen Blade said:
I think the biggest weakness of the 3-5-2 formation is the lack of width. Sometimes even JCR and Murphy struggles to create out wide although they are supported by full backs. How much do you think Flynn and Harris would create individually down their sides, without being supported by any other wide players? You need exactly the right kind of full backs to make it work, and you also need creativity, movement and goal threats in midfield as well as up front.

I like Sothall's team, but will Preston be more intent on exploiting our lack of height than QPR were?
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Not full backs but wing backs who keep pushing on, leaving the back 3 to fend for themselves with cover from Doyle and/or Reed and Wallace when necessary.

The beauty of it is that we always have 3 at the back in the case of a counter-attack. That should always be enough but Doyle would not leave them too exposed anyway. The other 6 should have licence to get in or around their box.

Against Preston I'd play Flynn and Harris for the first hour. Against lesser teams I'd pick Murphy and Ryce.

Even the Prestons of this league ought to be treated with less respect in home matches.
 
Woodwardfan said:
Not full backs but wing backs who keep pushing on, leaving the back 3 to fend for themselves with cover from Doyle and/or Reed and Wallace when necessary.

The beauty of it is that we always have 3 at the back in the case of a counter-attack. That should always be enough but Doyle would not leave them too exposed anyway. The other 6 should have licence to get in or around their box.

Against Preston I'd play Flynn and Harris for the first hour. Against lesser teams I'd pick Murphy and Ryce.

Even the Prestons of this league ought to be treated with less respect in home matches.
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I'm sorry, but I can't see it working very well with the options we have at wingback. As full backs Flynn and Harris are both capable of supporting a winger in front of them, but I think they would contribute little more than deep crosses if they were alone down their sides. With Campbell-Ryce and Murphy as wing backs they'd have to work harder defensively than they like,which would leave less energy for them going forward. Defensively the system is less of a concern, it often turns into a 5-3-2 and as such can be quite defensive.
 
The worrying thing is we don't seem to have a back up plan if 4-5-1 doesn't work, many people are saying we don't have the players ffor other formations, why not, surely as a manager you would want players who could play in different systems. Thought that would be pretty obvious. Personally I a bit worried what will happen if utd lose at the weekend. Sounds from radio sheff Clough isn't in a rush to get anybody in. That's also worrying.
 
Bergen Blade said:
I'm sorry, but I can't see it working very well with the options we have at wingback. As full backs Flynn and Harris are both capable of supporting a winger in front of them, but I think they would contribute little more than deep crosses if they were alone down their sides. With Campbell-Ryce and Murphy as wing backs they'd have to work harder defensively than they like,which would leave less energy for them going forward. Defensively the system is less of a concern, it often turns into a 5-3-2 and as such can be quite defensive.
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For 90% of home games the opposition play one forward. Playing 4-5-1 is not getting men where they have them. Playing 3-5-2 emphasises the intention to play in the opposition half. I know what you are saying about Flynn and Harris but even with a more positive formation the games battles have to be fought and playing those two for the first hour is optional but prudent. Besides they are both not without their attacking skills are are no mugs going forward, especially with Baxter making himself available to link with in the front 2 but without being on his own bearing the full brunt as he has had to do so often this past year.

Also in 3-5-2 there's nothing to stop Reed and Wallace overlapping on occasions, nor Flynn and Harris cutting inside.

Interesting Bergen, but we've done it to death and it will never happen.At the end of the day I want to see 5 men in the box by the time we cross it or pass it in there. The majority of goals are second ball pick-ups and that needs men in there to pick them up.
 



So watching Preston tonight we just need to put 11 behind the ball, soak up the numerous balls into the box to Beckford and Davies and then just hit them on the break.

Definite 4-5-1 required
 
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