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If Clough needed confirmation that some players need to go then tonight proved it.

Porter and McGinn are a complete waste of wages.
 
It's increasingle clear that the owners of our club have lost the plot completely. I have today been ashamed of my club. The CE fiasco, and then that shocking performance. We are a laughing stock getting worse every season.
 
He plays Porter down the middle Diego out wide how are we going to threaten.

Plus point Basham solid.

Regardless of who he puts up top on their own, it's the same... If we don't get bodies in and around them we do nothing.

Just expecting someone to magic something out of nothing at the moment.
 
We never attack in any numbers - ultra cautious until we go behind. No pace and power. And of course, we still haven't signed a decent striker.

Clough's approach is to try and keep it tight and hope to nick the game 1-0. It worked at times last season due to a solid defence and a fair bit of luck at times. But in the long term it's shite and won't get us success. Clough needs to change his approach and soon.
 
It was just like a practice match/pre season friendly.

Clough in after match interview didn't seem to give a fuck.
 
Everyone wants 3 or 4 touches each before a pass. No man willing to really go at somebody. Always 10 men behind the ball. It's like watching a life size game of table football.
 
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If Clough needed confirmation that some players need to go then tonight proved it.

Porter and McGinn are a complete waste of wages.

Regardless of who he puts up top on their own, it's the same... If we don't get bodies in and around them we do nothing.

Just expecting someone to magic something out of nothing at the moment.

Everyone wants 3 or 4 touches each before a pass. No man willing to really go at somebody. Always 10 men behind the ball. It's like watching a life size game of table football.

Probably because there wasn't an attacking minded player in the midfield line up

When he ventured forward every player to a man hid. He had to turn back each time and pass it back. Not one option was available for him to pass it on.

Well said all of you. The main weakness about tonight's team was the central midfield.

It is absolutely vital in such a formation that the midfield is good at getting forward on and off the ball. When it comes to assessing players, McGinn is the one that I feel Clough has got most wrong. He is capable of doing Doyle's anchor role, but is wasted in a more attacking role that Clough seems to think he can do. He never scores, he rarely sets anything up, he rarely gets in the box and you don't see him going past players.

When you have two holding midfielders, and Reed who for now is a better playmaker/distributor than on and off the ball runner, you have a static trio who won't support the striker enough. And everybody can see that Porter is not the type of striker who will create his own chances.

We have some players who can do a job at our level - in a well balanced team and given the right role. But their average ability is exposed when the balance of the team is poor and they are being asked to do roles that they don't have the attributes for.
 
Well said all of you. The main weakness about tonight's team was the central midfield.

It is absolutely vital in such a formation that the midfield is good at getting forward on and off the ball. When it comes to assessing players, McGinn is the one that I feel Clough has got most wrong. He is capable of doing Doyle's anchor role, but is wasted in a more attacking role that Clough seems to think he can do. He never scores, he rarely sets anything up, he rarely gets in the box and you don't see him going past players.

When you have two holding midfielders, and Reed who for now is a better playmaker/distributor than on and off the ball runner, you have a static trio who won't support the striker enough. And everybody can see that Porter is not the type of striker who will create his own chances.

We have some players who can do a job at our level - in a well balanced team and given the right role. But their average ability is exposed when the balance of the team is poor and they are being asked to do roles that they don't have the attributes for.

McGinn does bugger all in general and I would be asking a League 2 club if they want him.
 
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Well said all of you. The main weakness about tonight's team was the central midfield.

It is absolutely vital in such a formation that the midfield is good at getting forward on and off the ball. When it comes to assessing players, McGinn is the one that I feel Clough has got most wrong. He is capable of doing Doyle's anchor role, but is wasted in a more attacking role that Clough seems to think he can do. He never scores, he rarely sets anything up, he rarely gets in the box and you don't see him going past players.

When you have two holding midfielders, and Reed who for now is a better playmaker/distributor than on and off the ball runner, you have a static trio who won't support the striker enough. And everybody can see that Porter is not the type of striker who will create his own chances.

We have some players who can do a job at our level - in a well balanced team and given the right role. But their average ability is exposed when the balance of the team is poor and they are being asked to do roles that they don't have the attributes for.
I kind of agree, the way I have seen us play this season, we just do not get the ball into positions where we are able to score or even shoot or cause any danger. Take the game at Crewe, they were quite content to let us have the ball in front of them, they knew we would not do anything meaningful with the ball.
 
McGinn does bugger all in general and I would be asking a League 2 club if they want him.

McGinn's capable of holding a decent defensive position, pick up loose balls, keep the ball reasonably well under pressure and can play simple balls with good accuracy to teammates around him. Clough said in an interview last season that he had far too many attacking qualities to play a holding role. Then when Doyle was sent off vs Fulham he got the chance in the holding role at Fulham and at home vs Shrewsbury, did really well and we won both, but since that he's only been given attacking roles that don't suit him at all.

Him alongside Doyle is like having Jostein Flo with Wayne Allison up front.
 
Regardless of who he puts up top on their own, it's the same... If we don't get bodies in and around them we do nothing.

Just expecting someone to magic something out of nothing at the moment.

Last season we had Scougall and Coady who repeatedly popped up in the box. This season we've got Wallace (when fit), who does his work deeper so we lose that threat. And as Bergen says, we seem to have concluded that Basham doesn't have the quality to be the attacking option.

That said, I still think we'd be OK given a centre forward of real quality, simply because we've not been short of chances in most games.
 
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That said, I still think we'd be OK given a centre forward of real quality, simply because we've not been short of chances in most games.

Why - we do not get the ball into the box to score, what good would a centre forward do? unless he is Gareth Bale picking up from the centre line and running with it? Not seen may of those in Div 3?
 
Why - we do not get the ball into the box to score, what good would a centre forward do? unless he is Gareth Bale picking up from the centre line and running with it? Not seen may of those in Div 3?

1, As I said, we create plenty of chances in most games.
2, Our finishing has been terrible.
3, Perhaps we'd put more crosses in given a worthwhile target.
 



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