Have the players give up on Wilder ?

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The players have given up on Wilder and I've given up on these players.

Apart from Cooper and a couple of others I'd quite happily never see any of them ever again.

The disconnect between the fans and the squad is probably as bad as it's been since the 2010-11 relegation season.

Even some of the teams we had in League One had more bollocks than these bastards.
good post and think most of our fanbase have given up on them as well the yanks need to act quickly wilder is finished as a manager at this level thats why he failed at boro and watford and as a big chris wilder fan previously it saddens me and i find the whole situation extremely sad but we have to stop living in the past and move on
 
From the owners point of view why would you give anyone at this club money to spend when every time they have it’s been wasted?

I wouldn’t trust the staff at the club currently to run a bath, never mind a team.

It’s no wonder the players have given up, what must they be thinking?
 
The experienced pros will see the writing on the wall. Why would you take a chance of pulling/ injuring something for a manager who's likely to be gone , they're not stupid and will look at some of the selections and tactics and think bollocks to this .
Unless the owners have already quietly recruited someone, give it phil Jones and let him have the next 3 weeks to sort them out.
 
With passing accuracy at 68%, there is no wonder we lost another game. Surely a professional footballer should be able to pass a fcking ball to his own man. What are we doing in training?

To be fair you expect to lose more than 32% of aimless hoofs, so that doesn't seem too bad?
 



Grafted their asses off today.


These were the chosen ones. The Trustys. Arblaster was invisible, Hamza and BBD bone idle, Cannon brain dead and Shackleton is well, Shackleton and that’s all he offers. But whatever the selection this squad are incapable of holding on to a lead. Wilder will be down to a clique of five or six soon as he looks for the next bus to come along while he tries to save his job/engineer the sack.
 
These were the chosen ones. The Trustys. Arblaster was invisible, Hamza and BBD bone idle, Cannon brain dead and Shackleton is well, Shackleton and that’s all he offers. But whatever the selection this squad are incapable of holding on to a lead. Wilder will be down to a clique of five or six soon as he looks for the next bus to come along while he tries to save his job/engineer the sack.

I've only been disappointed in attitude and graft (not fitness) in the Fleetwood game. I thought Choudhury locked his side down defensively but offers little going the other way. The same Vs Wolves. If it's a five it has to be Burrows and Seriki asap.

I see these as the useful players on the books for this season, or at least until January:

Cooper, One, BBD, Bamford, Cannon, Peck, Phillips, Donovan, Choudhury, Seriki, Kitching, Tanganga, McCallum, Burrows, Baptiste, Rothwell (only in a three - a bit desperate no doubt), Chong (again desperate).

Not sure on these Arblaster (seen flashes, so not totally writing him off yet), Jairo (miles off it but has looked capable in the past), Campbell (looks a long shot right now, but definitely talented enough if he sorts himself out).

The rest are third choice at best. We're screwed if we get a few injuries to the top list.

Bomb squad at the end of the season: RND, Chong, Mcguinness, Shackleton, Cannon, Tanganga, Burrows ( would move for the right price), Rothwell.

Jairo, Campbell and Arblaster decisions I'd wait to make a final decision on based on this season.
 
I've only been disappointed in attitude and graft (not fitness) in the Fleetwood game. I thought Choudhury locked his side down defensively but offers little going the other way. The same Vs Wolves. If it's a five it has to be Burrows and Seriki asap.

I see these as the useful players on the books for this season, or at least until January:

Cooper, One, BBD, Bamford, Cannon, Peck, Phillips, Donovan, Choudhury, Seriki, Kitching, Tanganga, McCallum, Burrows, Baptiste, Rothwell (only in a three - a bit desperate no doubt), Chong (again desperate).

Not sure on these Arblaster (seen flashes, so not totally writing him off yet), Jairo (miles off it but has looked capable in the past), Campbell (looks a long shot right now, but definitely talented enough if he sorts himself out).

The rest are third choice at best. We're screwed if we get a few injuries to the top list.

Bomb squad at the end of the season: RND, Chong, Mcguinness, Shackleton, Cannon, Tanganga, Burrows ( would move for the right price), Rothwell.

Jairo, Campbell and Arblaster decisions I'd wait to make a final decision on based on this season.


Honest question, how many of those do you think are leaving everything on the pitch, be it for 60 or 90 minutes?
 
Honest question, how many of those do you think are leaving everything on the pitch, be it for 60 or 90 minutes?

Most of them. Even the games we've been outplayed I think they've left it all out there. They just aren't very good. We seem to have about 75 minutes in us at the minute. Then the subs come on and we're done. Hopefully Burrows, Seriki and Ryan One can help that a bit. I feel out of the players that were in situ all pre season that Campbell, and Rothwell are the two that should be in a position to give more.
 
Most of them. Even the games we've been outplayed I think they've left it all out there. They just aren't very good. We seem to have about 75 minutes in us at the minute. Then the subs come on and we're done. Hopefully Burrows, Seriki and Ryan One can help that a bit. I feel out of the players that were in situ all pre season that Campbell, and Rothwell are the two that should be in a position to give more.
Why are you expecting much from the return of Ryan One when Wilder barely gives him minutes and is likely to prefer Ayew as the option from the bench?
 
Some Blades fans, 'Wilder's so negative, blames everyone and always chucking the players under the bus'
Also some Blades fans,'How can he say the players are an honest bunch and that we're on the right track'
🤷‍♂️
 
Some Blades fans, 'Wilder's so negative, blames everyone and always chucking the players under the bus'
Also some Blades fans,'How can he say the players are an honest bunch and that we're on the right track'
🤷‍♂️

I don’t think that’s the burn you think it is when you’ve just confirmed that Wilder contradicts himself on a consistent basis.

Pre-Fleetwood - “I trust these players”
Post-Fleetwood - “I don’t trust these players”

We get no comms from anywhere apart from him, and when it’s so contradictory wtf are we supposed to believe?

Especially when we can see the issues with our own eyes but the manager and coaching team apparently can’t.
 
I don’t think that’s the burn you think it is when you’ve just confirmed that Wilder contradicts himself on a consistent basis.

Pre-Fleetwood - “I trust these players”
Post-Fleetwood - “I don’t trust these players”

We get no comms from anywhere apart from him, and when it’s so contradictory wtf are we supposed to believe?

Especially when we can see the issues with our own eyes but the manager and coaching team apparently can’t.
My point was simply to highlight that he's criticised for blaming others and criticised for not blaming others.
Do we want him to call players out like he did after the Fleetwood game or not?
One minute we're all slating Campbell then Wilder says he left him out of the squad because he needs to do more.
Next we're slating Wilder for demoralising the players by telling them they need to do more.

Lots of variables at play here as to who's really at fault.
I think a combination of the owners, Wilder and some of the players.
He said himself the mark of a good player isn't what he does when playing well, but what he does when things aren't going so well.
Over to you Chris.
 
These were the chosen ones. The Trustys. Arblaster was invisible, Hamza and BBD bone idle, Cannon brain dead and Shackleton is well, Shackleton and that’s all he offers. But whatever the selection this squad are incapable of holding on to a lead. Wilder will be down to a clique of five or six soon as he looks for the next bus to come along while he tries to save his job/engineer the sack.
For a bloke who says the club’s in His dna, he never turns down the check on the way out !!
 
I've only been disappointed in attitude and graft (not fitness) in the Fleetwood game. I thought Choudhury locked his side down defensively but offers little going the other way. The same Vs Wolves. If it's a five it has to be Burrows and Seriki asap.

I see these as the useful players on the books for this season, or at least until January:

Cooper, One, BBD, Bamford, Cannon, Peck, Phillips, Donovan, Choudhury, Seriki, Kitching, Tanganga, McCallum, Burrows, Baptiste, Rothwell (only in a three - a bit desperate no doubt), Chong (again desperate).

Not sure on these Arblaster (seen flashes, so not totally writing him off yet), Jairo (miles off it but has looked capable in the past), Campbell (looks a long shot right now, but definitely talented enough if he sorts himself out).

The rest are third choice at best. We're screwed if we get a few injuries to the top list.

Bomb squad at the end of the season: RND, Chong, Mcguinness, Shackleton, Cannon, Tanganga, Burrows ( would move for the right price), Rothwell.

Jairo, Campbell and Arblaster decisions I'd wait to make a final decision on based on this season.
Choudhury didnt play vs Fleetwood. Doherty played rb and wasnt that good either, he didnt lock that side down.
 



With passing accuracy at 68%, there is no wonder we lost another game. Surely a professional footballer should be able to pass a fcking ball to his own man. What are we doing in training?
I think wilder let's them have a bit of a jog to warm up and then just stand each end of pitch to boot ball to each other & after a bit get eveyone to play that game when pissing about.... where somoen launches ball high in the sky and see who has best touch.

Then thats it time for a pint in pub for culture training.
 

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