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Odd to wish for a Yes man in corporate garb.
Done not want someone to fight for the club as opposed to the owners?

DoF and board. Feck the fans. Franchise here we come 😳
DoF is an ok concept until something goes wrong.

Then it gets extremely messy.

At the moment you have accountability.

If I’m the Manager and some other guy brings in the wrong players then how does it not all end up on me when the other guy is the one who screwed up?
 



Just seen a tweet from Southampton side they will have to pay between 10/12 million for him but we can get for 4
 
Just seen a tweet from Southampton side they will have to pay between 10/12 million for him but we can get for 4
Effectively the same though as we would have to write off the rest (it would have been monies we had accounted for coming in over next 2 seasons).
I am not sure we could afford to do that - unless we sell someone else.
In a perfect world we would offload Ukaki, Shackleton, Gbric, Cannon to make up some of the shortfall but I can't see that happening.
As Wilder alluded to, could be like the Wild West on the last 2 days for the transfer window.
 
Was on twitter looking for updates and found some feet pics


Was on twitter looking for updates and found some feet pics



Was on twitter looking for updates and found some feet pics



Seen these before

Top right , they're Nick Janskey s feet , bottom left are Blade56 , bottom right are deffo Frank s,.

Top right is a group photo when all four of us were playing 5s and 3s in the Winkobank WMC in July 1978.

Oh what a night ...
 
How have we got into this crap after a couple of seasons in the Premiership and all the benefits of promotion?Are we destined to always be a tinpot club
Because we have wasted £500 million since 2019/20 season of Prem Money and parachute payments due to appalling transfer policy and no major investment in our infrastructure. So we are left with very little. We are a test case of how not to approach promotion to the Premier League for any aspiring club.
 
Exactly that is what happened at Huddersfield during their second season in the PL
The DoF debate reminds me of Ron Atkinson.

His famous comment was:

“Everyone says: 'Look at Italy, they don't drink much, they're all eating pasta'. But there are plenty of crap teams in Italy who do that."

Same with DoF; seen as a solution when things are challenging but Spurs had a DoF the other year, so did Huddersfield as you mentioned etc.

The key is to get good people. You can call them what you like.
 



We didn’t invest in anything decent and scouts with passports. Now we’re in this mess. Future looks bleak
Heard an interview with a bloke from Lincoln City a while back. When they were a National League side and had a cup run (quarterfinal?), they made a decision to use the money to build a training facility rather than buy players. They felt that this was a better long term performance multiplier than a player or two who might give them a couple of years. Their fanbase bought into this.
I know you’re talking about different teams and amounts of money but I wonder how our fans would have reacted if we’d used a chunk of the money from our time in the PL and we were now looking at a state of the art training facility and youth academy.
Would we have bought into that or complained about lack of ambition supporting the manager with signings? I’d like to think I would have supported it but I can’t be certain if that is hindsight bias.
 
Heard an interview with a bloke from Lincoln City a while back. When they were a National League side and had a cup run (quarterfinal?), they made a decision to use the money to build a training facility rather than buy players. They felt that this was a better long term performance multiplier than a player or two who might give them a couple of years. Their fanbase bought into this.
I know you’re talking about different teams and amounts of money but I wonder how our fans would have reacted if we’d used a chunk of the money from our time in the PL and we were now looking at a state of the art training facility and youth academy.
Would we have bought into that or complained about lack of ambition supporting the manager with signings? I’d like to think I would have supported it but I can’t be certain if that is hindsight bias.
I would think with the crazy monies being paid for championship players now, there has never been a better time for investing in a training facility.
I recall the general opinion when we were promoted was to spend on players so we can consolidate into a mid table Premier league team.
But it looks like we have no money now so not sure when Dore will get developed fully.
 
Heard an interview with a bloke from Lincoln City a while back. When they were a National League side and had a cup run (quarterfinal?), they made a decision to use the money to build a training facility rather than buy players. They felt that this was a better long term performance multiplier than a player or two who might give them a couple of years. Their fanbase bought into this.
I know you’re talking about different teams and amounts of money but I wonder how our fans would have reacted if we’d used a chunk of the money from our time in the PL and we were now looking at a state of the art training facility and youth academy.
Would we have bought into that or complained about lack of ambition supporting the manager with signings? I’d like to think I would have supported it but I can’t be certain if that is hindsight bias.

If you put it to the fans it'd be 48/52 spilt. Almost every discussion on these boards is half for, half against, regardless of the subject.

If a club actually want to do something, the worst thing they can do is listen to the fans.
 
I would think with the crazy monies being paid for championship players now, there has never been a better time for investing in a training facility.
I recall the general opinion when we were promoted was to spend on players so we can consolidate into a mid table Premier league team.
But it looks like we have no money now so not sure when Dore will get developed fully.

Might be mistaken on the specifics but I think the new spending rules dictate that 20% of all investment goes into a clubs infrastructure. That will see meaningful change for many clubs.
 
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Heard an interview with a bloke from Lincoln City a while back. When they were a National League side and had a cup run (quarterfinal?), they made a decision to use the money to build a training facility rather than buy players. They felt that this was a better long term performance multiplier than a player or two who might give them a couple of years. Their fanbase bought into this.
I know you’re talking about different teams and amounts of money but I wonder how our fans would have reacted if we’d used a chunk of the money from our time in the PL and we were now looking at a state of the art training facility and youth academy.
Would we have bought into that or complained about lack of ambition supporting the manager with signings? I’d like to think I would have supported it but I can’t be certain if that is hindsight bias.

I was one of the few voices on here at the time venturing an opinion that we should be putting a chunk of PL money into training facilities / training ground, mainly because i wanted to definitely see United have some tangible positive of being in the PL. Also, in the knoweldge that United can and often do cock things up. It was an opportinity missed, but on the flip side, if we had bought well and stayed up then that would have been the right thing. Easy in hindsight, but i remember wanting us to spend some of the Brewster money on the facilities.

As an aside, if we was to sell Peck for a decent fee, id like us to reinvest it all into the training facilities....and not on players.
 
The more you read Hall's columns, the more you can see he's Wilder's puppet, whether directly or indirectly, he's not hiding it very well.

Wit similarly says things that are anti-Board and pro-Wilder quite regularly and is clearly his best mates mouthpiece... you worry where that stuffs heading.

Yet another reason for a DoF (or similar) and not shoving all your eggs in the basket of Wilder & his pals.

As one of the most balanced posters on here, CaptainMorgans: take on this is telling.
 
If you put it to the fans it'd be 48/52 spilt. Almost every discussion on these boards is half for, half against, regardless of the subject.

If a club actually want to do something, the worst thing they can do is listen to the fans.
There are exceptions to this though where I wish they would listen to the fans! Bryan Robson's appointment springs to mind and Selles! Nobody would have suggested either, especially Robson. Certainly not a majority of fans.
 



As much as we blame him, I can only imagine how frustrated Wilder is at the moment. There’s no chance he’s watching us miss out on all our targets & not pulling his hair out
 

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