Player Suggestion Souttar played and scored last night

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paidsy said:
Why would you have cash specifically assigned for one position but not another?
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Because it's easier to get a left winger on loan from a premier league club than a centre back as you can usually accept a winger with less experience. Not something you'd usually want at centre half and not often an experienced centre half will find themselves on the loan market. Probably
 
luffenhamblade said:
By showing he’s good at chucking his dummy? No thanks.
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Might be more of a case that he is distracted or even disinterested. Not great I admit but if it's true that he has told Leicester he wants to leave then making him captain was a fucking stupid decision by Martin. If he did it to try and drive up the asking price, then even more so as it was always likely to backfire.
 
ml1997 said:
Move on from him. He’s not worth £10m to anyone, never mind us. Target another centre half for ~£5m and spend the rest on a left winger. Those are the two positions we’re crying out for and if we get good players in each position I’ll be much more optimistic.
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Totally agree and I’ve been really keen on seeing Souttar return. however, I’d forget about him now, go for Anel for £5mill and spend the other £5 mill on a left winger. Go get a new striker to replace Cannon on a loan. Hopefully between now and the end of the transfer window sell a couple of the fringe players to get a bit of money in to balance the books. Take £3mill for Cannon would also be acceptable as it would take him off the payroll.
 
Farnboroughblade said:
Totally agree and I’ve been really keen on seeing Souttar return. however, I’d forget about him now, go for Anel for £5mill and spend the other £5 mill on a left winger. Go get a new striker to replace Cannon on a loan. Hopefully between now and the end of the transfer window sell a couple of the fringe players to get a bit of money in to balance the books. Take £3mill for Cannon would also be acceptable as it would take him off the payroll.
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Don’t need to replace cannon. We have three strikers. We need to commit to 4231, I’d rather get 2x wingers, or an understudy for O’Hare. Right now that would probably be Chong, which - no thanks.
 
bladesmanluke said:
Because it's easier to get a left winger on loan from a premier league club than a centre back as you can usually accept a winger with less experience. Not something you'd usually want at centre half and not often an experienced centre half will find themselves on the loan market. Probably
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Spot On imo
 



Bladesman said:
Another bid made apparently.

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“Sheffield United make offer for Harry Souttar
The Blades have submitted an offer for the Australian defender from Leicester City.
Souttar, 27, has already worn the club's shirt on loan and is one of the main targets for the defense”.

Is he the Spanish Biggseh?
 
SUFCScorecard said:
Don’t need to replace cannon. We have three strikers. We need to commit to 4231, I’d rather get 2x wingers, or an understudy for O’Hare. Right now that would probably be Chong, which - no thanks.
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I think we just need to commit to something.

3-5-2 or 3-4-2-1 and you need another centre back. You have two excellent left wing backs and and outstanding right wing back. Don’t know how good Doherty is up and down but he can also play RCB. The elusive Shackleton ought to be a decent wing back. You’ve plenty of CMs for the two and O’Hare, Donovan, Chong and presently Marsh for the 10 or 10s. We currently have 4 strikers. Leas to do with this formation.

If we commit to 4-2-3-1 then we still need a centre back and also we need a first choice left winger. You could argue we need one more, unless that’s Chong but it still only gives depth on one wing.

The first formation is a lot less hassle to recruit for to be quite honest. It’s the one we should be playing in my view.
 
Champagneblade said:
I think we just need to commit to something.

3-5-2 or 3-4-2-1 and you need another centre back. You have two excellent left wing backs and and outstanding right wing back. Don’t know how good Doherty is up and down but he can also play RCB. The elusive Shackleton ought to be a decent wing back. You’ve plenty of CMs for the two and O’Hare, Donovan, Chong and presently Marsh for the 10 or 10s. We currently have 4 strikers. Leas to do with this formation.

If we commit to 4-2-3-1 then we still need a centre back and also we need a first choice left winger. You could argue we need one more, unless that’s Chong but it still only gives depth on one wing.

The first formation is a lot less hassle to recruit for to be quite honest. It’s the one we should be playing in my view.
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It's about quaility of strikers if utd's finaces wert dire would they persist with campbell and co ,campbell had one purple patch the season before 11 goals fair return ,but last 1 and time at stoke nothing special ,one unproven yet he's young prob another loan full season do him good to get goals regular basis .Cannon enough said about him ,leaves bamford as only a natural scorer but if utd continue with that kind of service saturday he'il struggle to .
 
Darren William said:
It's about quaility of strikers if utd's finaces wert dire would they persist with campbell and co ,campbell had one purple patch the season before 11 goals fair return ,but last 1 and time at stoke nothing special ,one unproven yet he's young prob another loan full season do him good to get goals regular basis .Cannon enough said about him ,leaves bamford as only a natural scorer but if utd continue with that kind of service saturday he'il struggle to .
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I don’t mind One remaining. He’s an ideal
Impact sub at the moment; strong and physical, he adds something from the bench. Campbell is also a potential finisher; he has excellent shots on target figures and his conversion rate is quite high if I recall. Those feel like decent bench options.

If we play two up top we need a better second option than Cannon, who I’d sell. I see Bamba Dieng is high up on the out of contract players. He got 15 goals in 25 matches in France’s top tier last season.

Seems Hull and Boro are looking at him. But if we offload Cannon, surely we have to compete with Boro on wages? They’ve done the Hackney cash and the Rogers cash by now.

Dieng is supposed to be good at pressing which helps. Boro already have Lankshear and Kyle Joseph now and Hull McBurnie and Gelhart so not sure he’d be first pick like he would with us.

As an aside how annoying is the Lankshear thing. Spurs take him just because they can. They hardly pick him then he ends up spearheading a rival. I know there was little we could do but I do wish these big clubs would do one when it comes to hoarding players. Imagine him playing for us now, he’d be perfect.
 
I'd be offering 2-3 million and a player (Mcguinness, Chong, Shackleton, Zatterstrom) tops. Maybe a loan for Cannon if it's a deal breaker. If it doesn't work out at that level loan in a centre back and try to strengthen the wing, attacking midfield and forward line. I do think a big brute is what we need so I understand us targeting him. Souttar represents a much bigger gamble than Phillips and arguably the potential upside isn't as high. For that reason the financial package has to be right.
 
We play the wrong style of football for cannon, he isnt good enough to revolve the whole team around.

I like souttar as a big no nonsense CB but 10m is obscene. 3-4m max. Him, tanganga and anel would be class.

My fear isnt conceding this year, its actually creating something. No brooks, no hamer...I hope arblaster returns to his breakthrough season level and we add on that too
 
Champagneblade said:
As an aside how annoying is the Lankshear thing. Spurs take him just because they can. They hardly pick him then he ends up spearheading a rival. I know there was little we could do but I do wish these big clubs would do one when it comes to hoarding players. Imagine him playing for us now, he’d be perfect.
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Young strikers tend to have to leave us in order to develop. And our fans are hardly patient with young players. There’s generally a clamour for them to be elevated to the first team if they stand out in the U21s followed very quickly by abuse if they then show the inconsistency and naivety of a very young player still learning their trade. I well remember not very bright people on here writing off Calvert-Lewin and Osula after a handful of games for us. I also see the current revisionism about Brooks and the absolute shite being spouted about Arblaster at the moment by some.
 
Nick Jansky said:
Young strikers tend to have to leave us in order to develop. And our fans are hardly patient with young players. There’s generally a clamour for them to be elevated to the first team if they stand out in the U21s followed very quickly by abuse if they then show the inconsistency and naivety of a very young player still learning their trade. I well remember not very bright people on here writing off Calvert-Lewin and Osula after a handful of games for us. I also see the current revisionism about Brooks and the absolute shite being spouted about Arblaster at the moment by some.
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Great post Champs Agree 100% we have a history of abusing young players! It's just a minority that do this ! which does leave its mark on young players.
 
If the news about Leicester chairman needing to raise funds immediately is true.

Has Bettis and co just being playing a game of cat and mouse with Leicester?

They've been asking for more but we suspect they may have to accept what we are offering?

Maybe it won't end up being £8-10m to prize him away. But I'm not saying it will end up being us.

Not to be negative but I'll be pleasantly surprised if we sign either Souttar or Anel. But guess let's see.
 



if wilder is saying we still need a left winger to come in he must have settled on the 4231 system to play this season with possibly o'hare given a free role behind bamford and could explain why we havent brought another striker in but he cant play o'hare out on the left again totally wasted out there
 
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