Bettis resigns ?

[bertieblade]

Culture carrier seems to be Wilders phrase for someone who is what he wants a Sheffield United player to be. Problem is that does not seem to involve football ability it seems to be thumping your chest and drinking Peronis

 

[Darren William]

Culture carrier seems to be Wilders phrase for someone who is what he wants a Sheffield United player to be. Problem is that does not seem to involve football ability it seems to be thumping your chest and drinking Peronis

Come on wilder tell the truth in presser ,if he's got ham face somethings wrong as we know on tranfers

 

[The Crab]

Perhaps CW was playing bullshit bingo and needed Culture Carrier for the full house?

 

[54yrblade]

Here’s a thought then. Do a quick Google search on “ culture carrier” and educate yourself on the topic. It would take you much less time than perpetuating a pointless and uninformed argument on here, and, more importantly, save everybody else the time of having to wade through the useless drivel while searching for something interesting to read about the Blades.

I dont have to. The proof is where we are now.

I'll go with you a little, and ask IF they are real and tangible in the club, where have they been since 2021 and why did that part of the group repeatedly go missing, last season, in the big matches against our direct promotion rivals and again at Wembley?

Or, is being unable to deal with pressure an acceptable part of a culture carrier's role?

 

[FTPE]

Culture carrier seems to be Wilders phrase for someone who is what he wants a Sheffield United player to be. Problem is that does not seem to involve football ability it seems to be thumping your chest and drinking Peronis

I dunno, Duffy, Baldock, Sharp and Bash weren't bad.

 

[Wireblade]

Culture carrier seems to be Wilders phrase for someone who is what he wants a Sheffield United player to be. Problem is that does not seem to involve football ability it seems to be thumping your chest and drinking Peronis

Thing is unless you or I are part of the dressing room then we have no idea how important this is. You either trust the manager on it or you don’t, but unless you have an insight into what goes on every day behind the scenes then you are just guessing.
I don’t think he is referring to the drinking culture, it’s the winning mentality and daily effort at training. I haven’t liked the drinking side of it either in the past.
I certainly wasn’t complaining when we went on that clean sheet run with a lower league defender in Jake Wright.
Alonso and Tuchel seem to value it as well, look at Jordan Henderson this summer. Back in the day Alex Ferguson always had similar players knocking about. Not just Wilder at it.

 

[ComedyClub]

I've been in work, management and strategic advisory roles for 44 years and never heard it refererred to.

'Culture change' - yes, on a department or organisation level but not in some poorly referenced personal quality terms.

And it doesnt appear in job spec's or role profiles, for good reason.

The squad just need a pizza dinner bought in for morale..

 

[bertieblade]

Thing is unless you or I are part of the dressing room then we have no idea how important this is. You either trust the manager on it or you don’t, but unless you have an insight into what goes on every day behind the scenes then you are just guessing.
I don’t think he is referring to the drinking culture, it’s the winning mentality and daily effort at training. I haven’t liked the drinking side of it either in the past.
I certainly wasn’t complaining when we went on that clean sheet run with a lower league defender in Jake Wright.
Alonso and Tuchel seem to value it as well, look at Jordan Henderson this summer. Back in the day Alex Ferguson always had similar players knocking about. Not just Wilder at it.

Team spirit is a vital ingredient of any dressing room and is something which has been v important to us as a team and Wilder as a manager but it sometimes seems to be all we have as I feel as though we just throw players onto the pitch and hope something happens.
Play players out of position , wait until sixty minutes to make a change, usually only to players never to formation.
Wilder did a wonderful job for us but he really does need to change things in his approach and tactics or we in a real mess

 

[Wireblade]

Team spirit is a vital ingredient of any dressing room and is something which has been v important to us as a team and Wilder as a manager but it sometimes seems to be all we have as I feel as though we just throw players onto the pitch and hope something happens.
Play players out of position , wait until sixty minutes to make a change, usually only to players never to formation.
Wilder did a wonderful job for us but he really does need to change things in his approach and tactics or we in a real mess

Plenty of room for improvement, I wouldn’t disagree. I just think the culture carrier bit isn’t one of them and is actually good management.

 

[FriethBlade]

Plenty of room for improvement, I wouldn’t disagree. I just think the culture carrier bit isn’t one of them and is actually good management.

But it would be nice to sign a "ball carrier" or two as well

 

[Keen Blade]

There's a typo in the title ,
It's Bettis "re-signs".
We given him a 5 year contract like Cannon.

 

[loveWalrusDaveTheBlade]

I dont have to. The proof is where we are now.

I'll go with you a little, and ask IF they are real and tangible in the club, where have they been since 2021 and why did that part of the group repeatedly go missing, last season, in the big matches against our direct promotion rivals and again at Wembley?

Or, is being unable to deal with pressure an acceptable part of a culture carrier's role?

Your first sentence makes absolutely no sense. You openly admit that you’ve never heard of the term “culture carrier”beyond an SUFC context, you turn down the opportunity to educate yourself as to what the term means when used commonly across businesses, and then you want to start an argument with me about something you don’t understand.
You mentioned the team of 2021, which is a good place to start an explanation. The stated cultural values of our club at that time were to outrun, outfight and outperform the opposition. I think that’s a pretty good description of what most fans would think of and expect as the culture of the club. Most of us recognise that, given our longstanding financial restrictions, we would expect our players to work harder than average ( ie outrun and outfight) if we expect to outperform the opposition. The epitome of that philosophy in 2021was George Baldock. He turned corporate words into practical actions on an everyday basis - he outran, outfought and outperformed his direct competitor in pretty much every match he played, and as a result he inspired his colleagues on the pitch and his fans on the terraces to try to do the same. George Baldock was the very definition of a culture carrier. George Baldock also thumped his badge and celebrated team success wildly. He even drank Peroni - most memorably while sitting alone in the dugout reflecting on the post-match promotion celebrations ( what a treasured photo that is). But the badge-thumping and beer drinking had nothing to do with his role as a culture carrier - it was all about turning corporate values into reality through everyday personal action.
So when you say you would begin by sacking culture carriers, you are saying that you would have sacked George Baldock. It’s a graphic example of your lack of understanding of your ignorance on the topic. It’s clear that you have no understanding of what the term culture carrier means. You just want to make up your own definition with which to beat the club
Moving forward, you ask what has gone wrong, and why our culture carriers went missing last season. The reason is that we have very few of them still in the squad, and have too many people who are incapable of outrunning the opposition, who are more interested in hiding than fighting, and who accept defeat too easily. We have a few - I would list Sydie Peck and Callum O’Hare as a couple of examples. Wilder is right to say that the team needs more culture carriers. He understands what culture carriers are.
But banging on about culture carriers is to miss two major reasons why the team has been on a downward trajectory. Let’s go back to the Baldock example - not only was he a model culture carrier, but he was a pretty good footballer, and he operated in a team that had structure, plans, and adaptability to circumstances, and a team in which everybody knew their own and others roles inside out, and meshed near perfectly as a system. Our current team has very few culture carriers, little idea of any on field plan, and some very average players ( as well as some good ones). The only problem we have with culture carriers is that we don’t have enough of them. More importantly, we recruit average players much of the time, and then put them in a team that appears to lack any real plan, so that they look even worse. Those are our biggest problems.
Your starting point of sacking culture carriers is as wrong as it’s possible to be - we’d simply further weaken an already existing weakness, and we should be focusing on more important issues, particularly team structure, organisation and method.

 

[54yrblade]

I'd argue that the last culture carriers we had were in the Wilder 1.0 tenure. Fitness, fight and angry George right up there.

Since then it's been an overused cliché and little more

See how this pans out. Everything available right now suggests a struggle

 

[The Crab]

Your first sentence makes absolutely no sense. You openly admit that you’ve never heard of the term “culture carrier”beyond an SUFC context, you turn down the opportunity to educate yourself as to what the term means when used commonly across businesses, and then you want to start an argument with me about something you don’t understand.
You mentioned the team of 2021, which is a good place to start an explanation. The stated cultural values of our club at that time were to outrun, outfight and outperform the opposition. I think that’s a pretty good description of what most fans would think of and expect as the culture of the club. Most of us recognise that, given our longstanding financial restrictions, we would expect our players to work harder than average ( ie outrun and outfight) if we expect to outperform the opposition. The epitome of that philosophy in 2021was George Baldock. He turned corporate words into practical actions on an everyday basis - he outran, outfought and outperformed his direct competitor in pretty much every match he played, and as a result he inspired his colleagues on the pitch and his fans on the terraces to try to do the same. George Baldock was the very definition of a culture carrier. George Baldock also thumped his badge and celebrated team success wildly. He even drank Peroni - most memorably while sitting alone in the dugout reflecting on the post-match promotion celebrations ( what a treasured photo that is). But the badge-thumping and beer drinking had nothing to do with his role as a culture carrier - it was all about turning corporate values into reality through everyday personal action.
So when you say you would begin by sacking culture carriers, you are saying that you would have sacked George Baldock. It’s a graphic example of your lack of understanding of your ignorance on the topic. It’s clear that you have no understanding of what the term culture carrier means. You just want to make up your own definition with which to beat the club
Moving forward, you ask what has gone wrong, and why our culture carriers went missing last season. The reason is that we have very few of them still in the squad, and have too many people who are incapable of outrunning the opposition, who are more interested in hiding than fighting, and who accept defeat too easily. We have a few - I would list Sydie Peck and Callum O’Hare as a couple of examples. Wilder is right to say that the team needs more culture carriers. He understands what culture carriers are.
But banging on about culture carriers is to miss two major reasons why the team has been on a downward trajectory. Let’s go back to the Baldock example - not only was he a model culture carrier, but he was a pretty good footballer, and he operated in a team that had structure, plans, and adaptability to circumstances, and a team in which everybody knew their own and others roles inside out, and meshed near perfectly as a system. Our current team has very few culture carriers, little idea of any on field plan, and some very average players ( as well as some good ones). The only problem we have with culture carriers is that we don’t have enough of them. More importantly, we recruit average players much of the time, and then put them in a team that appears to lack any real plan, so that they look even worse. Those are our biggest problems.
Your starting point of sacking culture carriers is as wrong as it’s possible to be - we’d simply further weaken an already existing weakness, and we should be focusing on more important issues, particularly team structure, organisation and method.

I do feel that corporate culture is mostly bollocks if i’m honest but as the lines between business and football not so much blur as disappear altogether, its here to stay.

What you’ve written above is a good explanation of how the term applies to football and helps an old curmudgeon like me understand how it applies to this situation.