Outgoing? Hamer

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Kozzy_is_my_Dad said:
I dunno, you know.

It's an hour and half easy, each way, in peak time traffic. I like around here and when I nip home for the weekend, I can just be about arsed doing it twice in a weekend, let alone 5 times per week, and 6 times on a match day. It's very different to living around Leamington and nipping across to training. And for a bloke who is allegedly disillusioned with football.

But when Roygbiv speaks, that's about as low-key ITK as things get in my book. Sounds like it's progressing.
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I have no idea if he will go for the record. Don't want people to think I'm saying we've accepted a bid or anything because I really don't know
 
I will say - and take this with a pinch of salt - they're not just after Hamer, they've enquired about Thomas at Stoke as well.

Stoke value him at 10-15, they've offered 9
 
The more i think about this, other than Coventry and Hull. What other PL team would consider him?

He's not going to improve any of the other teams.

I think he has 3 options.

1. Stay
2. Coventry
3. Back to Netherlands

I love him and want him to stay, but he's a lower PL player at best.
 
NerdyBlade said:
Did we not have the black hole reported between what we earned and what we needed that we needed to fill without parachutes? Big chance I've misunderstood the articles tbf
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The revenue has dropped by that amount. But there's no rule that the wage bill etc needs to be as high as last season
 
jt64 said:
I guess PSG letting Mbappe go for free and Dortmund letting Lewandowski go for free is then being amateurs, right?
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PSG have owners who are among the richest in the world & they operate in a completely different financial universe to most clubs.

Dortmund will no doubt look back and wish they hadn’t let Lewandowski leave on a free, but at the time they weren’t facing financial pressure. They’d signed him for next to nothing compared to what a top striker usually costs, so the risk felt manageable.

We don’t have that luxury. If you’re £10k into your personal overdraft, regularly speaking to the bank about financial issues, and someone offers you £2–3k to clear part of that debt, it’s something you have to seriously consider.

Reports suggest a £35m deficit and money owed to The Prince. So the question becomes simple: do you roll the dice on promotion, knowing the odds are slim or do you sell? As fans, of course we want him to stay. So do I. I’ll be gutted to see him in another shirt in the next week or so. But this is the reality of supporting Sheffield United.
 
mattbianco1 said:
The more i think about this, other than Coventry and Hull. What other PL team would consider him?

He's not going to improve any of the other teams.

I think he has 3 options.

1. Stay
2. Coventry
3. Back to Netherlands

I love him and want him to stay, but he's a lower PL player at best.
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He doesn’t guarantee survival - we finished bottom, and statistically one of the worst teams to ever play in that league.

He doesn’t guarantee promotion either, even in his peak spell with us, we finished 3rd. In my opinion, Ndiaye was the one who truly dragged us over the line. That’s the comparison I keep coming back to.

I also don’t think Coventry are getting the same player they sold. They’re a much stronger side now, so his impact won’t be as dramatic. He’s shown with us that he struggles with the intensity of playing centrally, and as for being a Premier League winger… I’m not convinced.
 
Silent Blade said:
It has been explained in here many times that the club doesn't owe this amount of money to the Prince. United World claim COH owes them this amount.
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Yes I get that, but it doesn’t change the fact we’ve lost parachute payments, there’s new league financial restrictions in place & the owners have a winding up order against them due to monies claimed to be owed.

Are they in a position to let players leave for free if we’re offered £5m plus for a player in the last year of his deal?
 
Millhousesblade1889 said:
Reports suggest a £35m deficit and money owed to The Prince. So the question becomes simple: do you roll the dice on promotion, knowing the odds are slim or do you sell? As fans, of course we want him to stay. So do I. I’ll be gutted to see him in another shirt in the next week or so. But this is the reality of supporting Sheffield United.
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If you are referring to the lack of parachute payments as a "deficit", stop that already. Players we signed to have a go (lol) at the PL for which said payments are intended to cover after we went down (excluding any youth deals and loans):

Slimane - loan to buy immediately on going down
Traore - sold immediately on going down
Trusty - same
Souza - stayed for one season then sold
Hamer - still here
Davies - contract now expired
Grbic - still here but continually on loan

There is just one year of Hamer's wages as a "deficit" in terms of actual money, plus one year's amortisation if looking at book value. As we fire sold everyone else, the parachute money was a windfall, the lack of it is not a deficit. We're now just back to normal Championship operations (which, yes, loses a boatload of money) both in terms of revenue and squad.

As for what I'd do, I answered that upthread
 
Millhousesblade1889 said:
Yes I get that, but it doesn’t change the fact we’ve lost parachute payments, there’s new league financial restrictions in place & the owners have a winding up order against them due to monies claimed to be owed.

Are they in a position to let players leave for free if we’re offered £5m plus for a player in the last year of his deal?
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Has the order been made? Must have missed that.
 
Does Coventry have much of a chance of staying in The Prem this season? Can't say I've been following their recruitment so I have no idea if they'll do a Sunderland or a Derby. Not saying that is a factor to whether he would sign for them or not, but it has to be in Hamer's mind, " do I want another season getting beat week in, week out?" "Does The Blades have a serious chance of getting promoted?".
I get that money is number one priority, playing in the top league on the planet is up there, going back to where he knows he'll be adored not matter what is also a factor. I guess we'll find out in either a new contract interview or returning to an old club interview.
Nice decision to have to make. Whatever he decides it's a win for him.
 



Roygbiv said:
Hamer isn't desperate to leave and wanted a move abroad but nothing worthwhile came in. It's a move that United are happy to go with so we don't lose him for free. Hamer is very disillusioned with football as a whole and wanted a big pay day for what will be his last big move but this is the next best thing.

It's shit for us because even though he's past his best and in poor shape, he was still by far our most creative player. I don't think he will be a success at Coventry either and I think they'll be surprised at the player they get back. Take a look at his size and they way he played for them in their play-off campaign in 2023. He's simply not that player anymore sadly.

By all accounts he's a top bloke so I hope it works out well for him.
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The higher the league, the fitter a player has to be.

Gus is way past Premiership levels of fitness. Yes, he has the skill in the Championship but I agree with you, Coventry fans will be disappointed at the 2026 Gus Hamer if they want to survive next year.

I’d be happy if he stayed with us for one more season.
 
Cov will rival Derbys record lowest score next year, Fat Frank will be sacked before Christmas and end up at somewhere like Boro. Mark my words.
 
Torrix1889 said:
Cov will rival Derbys record lowest score next year, Fat Frank will be sacked before Christmas and end up at somewhere like Boro. Mark my words.
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Then just go onto Sporting Index, stick a ton on the under, and print £2250 at the end of the season
 
Alex Cheeseright said:
Does Coventry have much of a chance of staying in The Prem this season? Can't say I've been following their recruitment so I have no idea if they'll do a Sunderland or a Derby.
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They are struggling to make signings, and their fans are trying to remain calm with the ownership. 1-2 in so far, neither stellar.
 
If nothing else, him starting today, maybe for one last time is nice, just to temporarily put their lot back in their weirdo box for a bit, and to kill their initial surge of weirdoness online.
 
Shawy24 said:
Has the order been made? Must have missed that.
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I thought it had a court date, maybe I’ve used the wrong terminology 🤣.

To be honest I don’t want to get into all that as I’ve not tracked it enough. My opinion is if we get a good offer for Hamer we should sell him & I don’t think we’re in a position to keep players in last year of their deals
 
He's in the starting line up today so that suggest that no bid has come in for him, or at least none that we've considered. I have no problem with Hamer leaving as O'Hare is more than capable of filling in for him and any fee would allow us to sign a permanent left winger.
 
Never mind Coventry…Hull are a lot worse and they’ve not signed anyone of note either. They’ll both be coming back down, you’d think with Ipswich.
 
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