Outgoing? Hamer

[adiosmiamigo]

We still need money….we’re not a club that’s able to run without selling players. We also have a huge financial deficit which is well documented.

We still need money….we’re not a club that’s able to run without selling players. We also have a huge financial deficit which is well documented.

We'll need money to replace him.

 

[bertieblade]

If he will not sign a new contract I doubt we will keep him as we cannot afford to write off £5m

 

[Weasel]

For the probable transfer fee (admittedly his current wages wont be unsubstantial though) im hoping he stays this season and we give it a go with him as our main playmaker. If someone offers £10m (they wont) then fair enough, you have to listen to that offer, but anything less than say £8m and i hope we turn it down (unless Hamer is actually pushing for the move) and we give it another go with him.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

Keep selling your best players! And there's only one outcome....relegation! Utds been doing it for years and and it always ends in this

We’re not a club that’s able to fund themselves. The owners don’t have the wealth & with the way the league works you have to balance the books. Hence why we’ve not spent the £7-8m received for Brooks.

For me it’s not about us selling players it’s about who we replace them with.

If you want to support a team that doesn’t sell their best players then Sheffield United aren’t the right club.

 

[calcalcal]

The lack of meaningful transfer activity concerns me. Beyond rumours which genuinely look unsubstantiated

 

[Berkshire Blade]

We’re not a club that’s able to fund themselves. The owners don’t have the wealth & with the way the league works you have to balance the books. Hence why we’ve not spent the £7-8m received for Brooks.

For me it’s not about us selling players it’s about who we replace them with.

If you want to support a team that doesn’t sell their best players then Sheffield United aren’t the right club.

Hemly is worth a few hundred million...

 

[adiosmiamigo]

If he will not sign a new contract I doubt we will keep him as we cannot afford to write off £5m

I don't know his contract details, I'm afraid.

 

[bertieblade]

His contract expires in twelve months time, we have apparently offered a new contract but wants more.
Feel if someone comes in with £3 to £5m he will go

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

Hemly is worth a few hundred million...

In assets….not in cash in the bank. If he had that much spare cash do you think we’d be about to have a winding up court case, selling Brooks & looking for new investors. It took them long enough to raise the money to buy the club in the first place and satisfy the EFL

Like most rich people, they’re rich on paper.

 

[Champagneblade]

If he will not sign a new contract I doubt we will keep him as we cannot afford to write off £5m

How are we writing off 5m though if it is the difference between finishing 2nd or 13th? Or let’s say 6th or 13th?

 

[bertieblade]

Totally agree “IF” we guarantee he can have that much influence
It did not last season

 

[Champagneblade]

Totally agree “IF” we guarantee he can have that much influence
It did not last season

He scored 7 goals and notched 13 assists in 39 matches.

Who else in the team had a slightly over a goal contribution every other game?

 

[S40BLADE]

We need money, he’s in the last year of his deal. We’d be stupid not to sell if we get a sensible offer

What we need is players that improve the team there is not a player we can get to replace him for the money we would make. Id let him play out his contract.

 

[bertieblade]

And we still did not get promoted

 

[Champagneblade]

And we still did not get promoted

We’d have got relegated without him.

 

[S40BLADE]

And we still did not get promoted

Love this logic shall we just sell everyone then?

 

[bertieblade]

So we now write off £3 / £5m not to guarantee promotion but in the hope we will not get relegated

 

[FTPE]

I expected Gus to leave then started to believe we might keep him.
Our attack suffers horrendously if he goes. How do we even go about replacing a player like that, on this type of budget?

 

[bertieblade]

Love this logic shall we just sell everyone then?

We are running a business with no guarantees, whatever happens is a gamble
Take it to the extreme and we could go into liquidation, for confirmation see chansiri

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

What we need is players that improve the team there is not a player we can get to replace him for the money we would make. Id let him play out his contract.

Of course you would, so would I because we’re fans…but we’re not paying the bills.

Seeing Hamer go on a free transfer isn’t something that a club like us has the financial ability to do. I’m not sure how anyone thinks we can? The same happened with Berge & Ndiaye

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

Love this logic shall we just sell everyone then?

I don’t understand how you think we’re in a financial position to just keep all our best players even if they don’t want to renew their contracts & let them go on a free.

There’s probably only 5-10 clubs in the world that can afford to do that

I’m glad you’re not my accountant.

 

[Willglynning]

We need money, he’s in the last year of his deal. We’d be stupid not to sell if we get a sensible offer

What if the alternative option is that we extend his contract and keep hold of one of the best midfielders in the league? A couple of months back there was talk of him being open to an extension.

 

[Drachblade]

Someone apparently from Sky called Tim is now saying Coventry are in talks to resign Gus Hamer

 

[bertieblade]

We have offered him a revised contract, but what do you do if he will not sign it

 

[NathTheBlade]

This was this one move hamer knew this was going to happen when they went up, he’s been keeping an eye on things, good luck to him, thanks for everything gus.

 

[S40BLADE]

I don’t understand how you think we’re in a financial position to just keep all our best players even if they don’t want to renew their contracts & let them go on a free.

There’s probably only 5-10 clubs in the world that can afford to do that

I’m glad you’re not my accountant.

Unfortunately, I work in finance.

What i care about is value, the money we would make from a hamer sale could never replace what a championship campaign of hamers talents can produce. With one year left on his deal the fee would be so poor we couldn’t afford anyone nearly half as good as him. So we would be having to spend more to replace his current contributions to the squad. If that means him walking on a free at the age of 31 so be it in my opinion.

 

[dellasthunderbolt]

unpopular opinion…

I think we looked a more solid … cohesive team without him last season.

However , he does have the ability to produce something out of nothing and do things others can’t

If we could find a ‘wild card’ who’s gonna cone off the bench and turn a game and replace him with that I wouldn’t be adverse to him leaving.

I agree BUT we do need that wild card. My worry is that we sell and never replace. Don’t necessarily mean with equal quality (probably impossible with current budget) but I terms of style. Otherwise we have a very samey and unimaginative midfield.

 

[Champagneblade]

So we now write off £3 / £5m not to guarantee promotion but in the hope we will not get relegated

So we sell him for 5m. Invest in two other inferior players and yet these two inferior players will somehow contribute more than the best player in the division in recent times?

If we needed lots of players I would get it, the whole sum of parts argument.

But right now we need one good centre half and we’ve already sold off Brooks for 8-10m. We don’t need multiple positions. We have 4 strikers for possibly 1 spot. We have 4 midfielders for 2. We have 2 senior fullbacks on each side. We have about 5 players at the moment in Hamer, O’Hare, Donovan, Marsh, Chong who can all play in a supporting 3. That’s not withstanding we may play 4-4-2 rather than 4-2-3-1 so you won’t start 60% of them.

If the whole purpose of running the football club is to not spend any of your own money then I’ll do it for nowt.

Keep Hamer and accept it costs you 5m to do so and start the season with confidence you’ll have a player who will get goals and assists on the Board. His departure might fund Kalvin Phillips who will score one goal per season. Someone has to score the goals.

We’ll swap Hamer for a year with Kalvin Phillips for a year and then Ben Brereton-Diaz in contract for 3 years and for a fee. At the end of his deal or near the end nobody will give us money for him.

If he was a high value (as in fee) asset then so be it. But at 29, we’ll get 5m and that’s peanuts. If we were getting 10-12m then i can see the significance.

 

[dellasthunderbolt]

We’re not a club that’s able to fund themselves. The owners don’t have the wealth & with the way the league works you have to balance the books. Hence why we’ve not spent the £7-8m received for Brooks.

For me it’s not about us selling players it’s about who we replace them with.

If you want to support a team that doesn’t sell their best players then Sheffield United aren’t the right club.

This is why we need the academy to keep churning out the next ‘asset’. Worries me when we don’t blood enough youngsters as this is the only way we can really create money out of nothing, as such. Brooks for example, he has been around the first team for years and then broke in. I worry that there are not other players like that around - would be nice to see the likes of One, Blacker, Sachdev on bench more as opposed to older veterans as this should be our priority. I don’t think we always make enough of the amazing academy we have.

 

[Drachblade]

Not sure where the creativity and flair comes from if he leaves tbh unless we replace him with jack Clarke or someone of similar skill and calibre