Outgoing? Ryan Oné

[Bladesman]

Something in this or not do we reckon?

He is with the squad today though.

 

[Superblades]

It’s gonna go One way or the other.

 

[Yogi]

Something in this or not do we reckon?

He is with the squad today though.

If the interest in Pepple is legit it would suggest One is moving on in some capacity as I can’t see us carrying two target men type strikers in the squad alongside Bamford, Cannon and Campbell

 

[Green7361]

I'd happily move Campbell on

 

[TJ blade]

I'd happily move Campbell on

+ Cannon/ Campbell/ One' not good enough!

 

[FriethBlade]

If and its a big if Campbell can rediscover his form from 2 seasons ago and show some consistency it would be like a new signing.

Id like to see Wilder try Bamford and Campbell up front with Gus in behind in the Duffy role. At least thst should create some changes.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

I'd really like us to keep hold off and blood Oné this season

 

[TJ blade]

I'd happily move Campbell on

And his mate Cannon!

 

[NerdyBlade]

+ Cannon/ Campbell/ One' not good enough!

So who are we starting up front? Because 2 of the 3 you want to get rid of have scored at the level we're at

 

[TJ blade]

So who are we starting up front? Because 2 of the 3 you want to get rid of have scored at the level we're at

Replacements, fck knows who

 

[NerdyBlade]

Replacements, fck knows who

Right so then why are we binning people off if we haven't got replacements lined up?

 

[TJ blade]

Right so then why are we binning people off if we haven't got replacements lined up?

Thats not my job pal, Hoyland should be doing his job, surely hes got all that info on the back of his fag packets

 

[Cheeky Blade]

Oné out one in?

 

[Bladeloyal]

Thats not my job pal, Hoyland should be doing his job, surely hes got all that info on the back of his fag packets

As mike Allen is head of recruitment maybe Jamie is just scouting players picked for him to look at .

 

[Keen Blade]

I'd happily move Campbell on

Campbell's not a no.9 and nor is Cannon.
Our no.9s are Bamford & Oné.

 

[Nick Jansky]

As mike Allen is head of recruitment maybe Jamie is just scouting players picked for him to look at .

And then recommending the likes of Matos, Chong & McGuinness.

 

[jt64]

Right so then why are we binning people off if we haven't got replacements lined up?

Because we don't know what we're doing, probably

 

[KMC-1889]

I'd really like us to keep hold off and blood Oné this season

Me too, but Wilder’s already told us it’s not his job to coach and develop players. He’ll be sold so we can bring in another journeyman clogger.

 

[DaddyDozy]

Me too, but Wilder’s already told us it’s not his job to coach and develop players. He’ll be sold so we can bring in another journeyman clogger.

With parachute payments gone now and a relatively aging/weak squad we’re no longer a top team in the league, unfortunately.

If we want to progress, we need to stop pretending we are in any kind of position to make a sustained push for promotion (when in reality we’d be relying on luck, a one-off season, or a group that clicks in the Championship but capitulates in the Prem), and instead use this period as an opportunity to reset.

It’s a chance to modernise the club, back room and tactics as well as blood young talent like One and Seriki... I hope we don’t sell either of those two after already selling Brooks, especially to just replace them with loans or aging players..

 

[Shawy24]

As mike Allen is head of recruitment maybe Jamie is just scouting players picked for him to look at .

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1AzerzFgqH/?

First time seen this. No wonder we’re in a mess.

 

[TJ blade]

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1AzerzFgqH/?

First time seen this. No wonder we’re in a mess.

Oh my fckg goodnight! We're in the shite arnt we!!

 

[Bell4]

And then recommending the likes of Matos, Chong & McGuinness.

I think that was all a massive misunderstanding,

He thought he was being asked what he wanted for supper

 

[Aston max]

Me too, but Wilder’s already told us it’s not his job to coach and develop players. He’ll be sold so we can bring in another journeyman clogger with candyfloss legs !!@

Fixed it

 

[Blade In Flame]

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1AzerzFgqH/?

First time seen this. No wonder we’re in a mess.

Is there supposed to be someone sitting at Allen's left hand side? All I can see is a microphone suspended in mid-air.

 

[Wards]

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1AzerzFgqH/?

First time seen this. No wonder we’re in a mess.

I don't know how good Allen is at his job. However, I do recall how much they were offering for analyst roles when they were recruiting (it's a field I work in so know the industry rates) and it was well below those. It wouldn't be a surprise to hear we aren't exactly getting the best of the best...they were basically graduate role rates for what were pretty senior positions.

 

[Kenilworth]

I don't know how good Allen is at his job. However, I do recall how much they were offering for analyst roles when they were recruiting (it's a field I work in so know the industry rates) and it was well below those. It wouldn't be a surprise to hear we aren't exactly getting the best of the best...they were basically graduate role rates for what were pretty senior positions.

This is exactly what I mean when I keep banging on about infrastructure, when the topic of a DoF pops up (every other day). Until and unless any SUFC board is serious about investment for the types of roles and facilities that underpin an operating model required for such a venture. Just appointing a figurehead “cos other clubs do it” merely shifts responsibility from one role to another but confers no accountability, since that still stays with the manager/coach. Such a change, in the current set up, is no change at all.

We’re a provincial, northern, traditional, semi (semi) successful club. A club that represents the demographic of its roots. We’ve never had owners wealthy enough who can plough a huge amount of money into the non footballing elements required to run a top end, modern football business. There’s probably a very limited chance of a return on investment for doing so, in our case, anyway.

These current owners are no different. They’ve admitted they don’t have the commitment to fund the build of a cat 1 academy without gaining premier league football. If that’s the case then you’d have to question what they would do to fund the playing side if we were to gain promotion in the near future.

 

[Iffy Onuora's Shiny Head]

I don't know how good Allen is at his job. However, I do recall how much they were offering for analyst roles when they were recruiting (it's a field I work in so know the industry rates) and it was well below those. It wouldn't be a surprise to hear we aren't exactly getting the best of the best...they were basically graduate role rates for what were pretty senior positions.

Its crazy to read this, especially when 10s of millions of pounds rest on what these guys may recommend.

Whilst its not an exact science, an extra 50/100k to attract top talent could have huge ROIs if they can deliver.

 

[Wards]

Its crazy to read this, especially when 10s of millions of pounds rest on what these guys may recommend.

Whilst its not an exact science, an extra 50/100k to attract top talent could have huge ROIs if they can deliver.

People are desperate to work in football and clubs are really leaning into that. There was a very senior data/recruitment role advertised at Newcastle a couple of weeks ago that barely paid more than I'm currently earning when it really should've been a 6-figure salary. It's a strange situation to be penny-pinching on these roles then happily sign a footballer on £150k p/w based on some half-hearted due diligence.

 

[Iffy Onuora's Shiny Head]

People are desperate to work in football and clubs are really leaning into that. There was a very senior data/recruitment role advertised at Newcastle a couple of weeks ago that barely paid more than I'm currently earning when it really should've been a 6-figure salary. It's a strange situation to be penny-pinching on these roles then happily sign a footballer on £150k p/w based on some half-hearted due diligence.

Absolutely. I work in finance and they do this with all the accounting roles - I see a lot at Man City and Man United and they pay very low because they know people will be desperate to work for them.

But I still think the top top talent will know their value and pick other niches instead.

 

[jt64]

These current owners are no different. They’ve admitted they don’t have the commitment to fund the build of a cat 1 academy without gaining premier league football. If that’s the case then you’d have to question what they would do to fund the playing side if we were to gain promotion in the near future.

Recognise you get nine figures worth of revenue upon promotion. Recognise that all transfers are paid in installments. As such, spend more than those nine figures, and if it doesn't work, fire sale and use the parachute payments as intended. In other words, do a Forest or a Sunderland.

Of course, that obviously requires the owners to work out how they got there in the first place, specifically Sunderland. We are doing the exact opposite of what they did.