'Memries' A year since Wilder left and the Selles era began!

[1973Blade]

A year since Selles was appointed our manager. I think he lasted longer than a lettuce, but not by much!

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Nice to see a new thread…

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

 

[I should coco]

Nice to see a new thread…

My money is on another half dozen posts, before the first Wilder hater joins in.
TBH, I'm surprised a few of the more mouth foaming types, haven't tried to tell us that Selles was actually better.

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

A year since Selles was appointed our manager. I think he lasted longer than a lettuce, but not by much!

That's his CV updated anyway!

 

[CPB]

Selles has had 5 managerial appointments since 2023.

If your a club owner or chairman. Your going to notice that. And see that in those 5 years the best he did was do "not bad" at reading.

His stats read even worse. 150 games 50 wins. Of which 34 were are reading in 78 games.

I reckon he will eventually just be a coach. At least for a good what while at least.
He's only 43. Sometimes coaches are ready for being a manager at that age and sometimes not.

 

[Gimli]

That's his CV updated anyway!

I’d argue the lettuce would’ve got better results.

 

[Champagneblade]

If your a club owner or chairman. Your going to notice that. And see that in those 5 years the best he did was do "not bad" at reading.

you’d think reading would be a basic requirement as well?

 

[Blacksea]

The Ipswich game will go down as one of the most Infamous in Blades history.

 

[bornablade]

The Ipswich game will go down as one of the most Infamous in Blades history.

It hardly compares with the Sunderland play off final.

 

[Kenilworth]

I’d argue the lettuce would’ve got better results.

Cos it might have romained in post a little longer and become a little gem?

 

[54yrblade]

The Ipswich game will go down as one of the most Infamous in Blades history.

Two totally different games

Ipswich, we were just crap and disorganised
PO Final, we bottled it. When we needed 'a proper Sheffield United performance' we didn't fancy it. Again.

But, at least Selles fronted the fans up with his team, rather than doing a disappearing act.

 

[Kenilworth]

We all did a disappearing act on that one

 

[bladesince64]

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Becoming the worst manager in the history of the club is quite an achievement.

 

[The Crab]

Why does the choice have to be so fucking binary?

Full disclosure here, I was on board with the Selles move, more of a gut feeling than evidence based really. It seemed clear that he was more of a fit for the way forward, the new way of doing things.

Truth is, it was a catastrophe. A change had to be made. Only 6 games yes, but the direction of travel was as clear as day.

I wasn’t on board with a Wilder return. His past record puts him amongst the very top echelon of our managers, certainly in my time.

But time catches us all up, it certainly has with me. Life changes, football changes. It just so happens, in my humble opinion, that COH, supposedly a group of successful people, have fumbled the changes needed.

To give Wilder his due, he did achieve what he was mandated to achieve upon his latest return.

He kept us up. Objective achieved.

Alan Knill, his trusted lieutenant, has left. Sad, but this change could refresh things, could refresh Wilder maybe?

It’s going to be a tough season ahead. Parachute payments stopped, the dross / quality ratio doesn’t fill me with optimism. Our appalling inability to keep players fit, a questionable at best recruitment policy are some of the challenges to be faced.

There can be no excuses now. No saying “but Selles”. It’s like blaming Covid for the country’s current ills. It’s bollocks basically. Time moves on, adjust, adapt, stop blaming things that are ancient history.

 

[I should coco]

My money is on another half dozen posts, before the first Wilder hater joins in.
TBH, I'm surprised a few of the more mouth foaming types, haven't tried to tell us that Selles was actually better.

Two totally different games

Ipswich, we were just crap and disorganised
PO Final, we bottled it. When we needed 'a proper Sheffield United performance' we didn't fancy it. Again.

But, at least Selles fronted the fans up with his team, rather than doing a disappearing act.

I stand corrected, it was a dozen posts before the first proper boot went in.

So here we go then.

Pile on, for another anti Wilder rant thread.

 

[Gin&Juice]

Silly appointment in hindsight. As a club we do need to move with the times. Just because Selles turned out to be a a Timeshare Salsman doesn’t mean all Forruns are suspect at managing.

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

My money is on another half dozen posts, before the first Wilder hater joins in

Ipswich, we were just crap and disorganised
PO Final, we bottled it. When we needed 'a proper Sheffield United performance' we didn't fancy it. Again.

But, at least Selles fronted the fans up with his team, rather than doing a disappearing act.

Pretty much bang on

 

[Cheeky Blade]

Obviously in hindsight a big mistake…though I recall many were hopeful that we could progress under the new owners with a ‘new system’ and their new manager.

I was one of those hoping for the best with the new regime and that they knew what they were doing…

 

[Torrix1889]

I was fully behind Wilder out and still am.

If we are to ever to progress as a club we need to get out of the Bladey-Blade/brexit culture. Selles was a mistake, granted but everything since has been rinse and repeat, we are no further on than we were 3 years ago.

 

[Kabba Kabba Doo]

Why does the choice have to be so fucking binary?

Full disclosure here, I was on board with the Selles move, more of a gut feeling than evidence based really. It seemed clear that he was more of a fit for the way forward, the new way of doing things.

Truth is, it was a catastrophe. A change had to be made. Only 6 games yes, but the direction of travel was as clear as day.

I wasn’t on board with a Wilder return. His past record puts him amongst the very top echelon of our managers, certainly in my time.

But time catches us all up, it certainly has with me. Life changes, football changes. It just so happens, in my humble opinion, that COH, supposedly a group of successful people, have fumbled the changes needed.

To give Wilder his due, he did achieve what he was mandated to achieve upon his latest return.

He kept us up. Objective achieved.

Alan Knill, his trusted lieutenant, has left. Sad, but this change could refresh things, could refresh Wilder maybe?

It’s going to be a tough season ahead. Parachute payments stopped, the dross / quality ratio doesn’t fill me with optimism. Our appalling inability to keep players fit, a questionable at best recruitment policy are some of the challenges to be faced.

There can be no excuses now. No saying “but Selles”. It’s like blaming Covid for the country’s current ills. It’s bollocks basically. Time moves on, adjust, adapt, stop blaming things that are ancient history.

Pretty much matches my exact view, just because Selles was the wrong man doesn't mean only Chris Wilder can be the right man.

I will always adore Wilder for what he did up until March 2020, but whilst ever he's at the club we won't evolve (and maybe under these owners we won't be able to evolve either)

 

[The Crab]

Pretty much matches my exact view, just because Selles was the wrong man doesn't mean only Chris Wilder can be the right man.

I will always adore Wilder for what he did up until March 2020, but whilst ever he's at the club we won't evolve (and maybe under these owners we won't be able to evolve either)

I think they want to evolve, they just have no idea what that’s going to look like

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Sacking a manager who got 90 points after a significant rebuild was monumentally dumb. Like a bloke cheating on his wife because the thrill of someone else who could potentially be better only to realise the new woman is fucking terrible after blowing up your life and it's going to take years to rebuild the relationship even if you do get back together!!

 

[Ned the Donkey]

Sacking a manager who got 90 points after a significant rebuild was monumentally dumb.

But he didn't do it playing entertaining football so he's shite.

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

I miss how Sellès would come over to the fans after another beating. He just got us

 

[Old Programme seller]

I think just about everyone knew Selles was crap just like Bryan Robson we all just knew

 

[bladesince64]

I miss how Sellès would come over to the fans after another beating. He just got us

He just got us thinking wtf is the bloke trying to do!

 

[KMC-1889]

I miss how Sellès would come over to the fans after another beating. He just got us

Yeah I much prefer my manager to run down the tunnel before the players when we lose.

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

Yeah I much prefer my manager to run down the tunnel before the players when we lose.

Ye losing every single game is fine as long as you go to the fans after

 

[I should coco]

I was fully behind Wilder out and still am.

If we are to ever to progress as a club we need to get out of the Bladey-Blade/brexit culture. Selles was a mistake, granted but everything since has been rinse and repeat, we are no further on than we were 3 years ago.

By all means accuse the Wilder fanboys (like me), of being 'Bladey Blade', but on what planet do you thiny 'Brexit' is relevant? Apart from the fact that it takes a pure football thread into a political row, (which obviously we all really look forward to), it is just plain wrong.

Whatever point you may have being trying to make, is lost in your very clumsy stereotypical generalisation.