Pre-season

[CPB]

I reckon any player that can't do a marathon in under 2 hrs we release.

 

[prince albert]

I reckon any player that can't do a marathon in under 2 hrs we release.

I managed one in 4mins once.
By the way they're called Snickers now.



I think Gus may have broken my record once or twice.

 

[The Crab]

Ridiculous comment. The ideal pre-season starts with low level friendlies (the likes of Matlock, Baslow) and gradually works up the levels as the players reach the start of the season. You don’t tend to play pre-season games against teams in the same division.

There’s little point, unless there is a training camp, in going any further than you need to and spending hours on a coach when you can go up the road.
It’s better to be playing league one and two clubs, who play a similar style and intensity of football, than foreign or Scottish teams.

I would expect (and how I would plan it given free choice) to be something along the lines of Matlock, Alfreton, Halifax, Rotherham, Doncaster, Huddersfield. With maybe a foreign friendly in there somewhere if they go for warm weather training.

It’s all designed around being at peak match fitness when the first game of the season comes around.

Peak fitness you say?

 

[SE1Blade]

How do you know last pre-season training was low intensity? Were you hiding behind a tree filming it?

Many players have mentioned this in interviews.

 

[Torrix1889]

Many players have mentioned this in interviews.

Have they, who?

 

[JT89]

Many players have mentioned this in interviews.

Have they, who?

Haven’t seen any interviews with players where they’ve said pre-season was low intensity. But a low intensity start to pre-season is a more modern approach because, quite;

“Low-intensity pre-season training focuses on rebuilding base aerobic capacity, joint stability, and foundational movement mechanics without overloading the muscles. It typically serves as an active recovery period or the first phase of an off-season program to prevent injury and safely reintroduce athletes to physical stress“

This kind of approach is often used at the start of pre-season now before building up the intensity…

The wilder fanboys won’t like it though because it’s not the old skool way of running players into the ground in the first week back and there’s very little Peroni involved.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Haven’t seen any interviews with players where they’ve said pre-season was low intensity. But a low intensity start to pre-season is a more modern approach because, quite;

“Low-intensity pre-season training focuses on rebuilding base aerobic capacity, joint stability, and foundational movement mechanics without overloading the muscles. It typically serves as an active recovery period or the first phase of an off-season program to prevent injury and safely reintroduce athletes to physical stress“

This kind of approach is often used at the start of pre-season now before building up the intensity…

The wilder fanboys won’t like it though because it’s not the old skool way of running players into the ground in the first week back and there’s very little Peroni involved.

A bit like John Harris teams then?

 

[JT89]

A bit like John Harris teams then?

I’m going to guess I’m not old enough for this reference

 

[Slim Man]

Selective memory loss? Shoutbox yesterday at 5.33ish? Ben Mee?

…or something

Refer to that directly then rather trying to be boring and cryptic you absolute girls blouse

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Refer to that directly then rather trying to be boring and cryptic you absolute girls blouse

There you go, pal

 

[Slim Man]

There you go, pal

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Only took 4 messages for you to stop being a fanny

Also, no he's not, yes it happened, source: family member of the assistant manager not a secret within the club, hardly breaking news

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Only took 4 messages for you to stop being a fanny

Also, no he's not, yes it happened, source: family member of the assistant manager not a secret within the club, hardly breaking news

Sorry to put it this way, but that’s bollocks. If you’re going to be a troll, don’t laugh at your own posts, it’s a sure sign - and if it’s hardly breaking news, why post it again? I think we both know why……

No more time for amateurs, you’re on ignore.

 

[Nessman930]

I know it won’t happen this year, but…

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Not last season. You know, the one when we won 92 points.

This season because of the Selles low intensity training and pre-season regime and because our two best players were signed outside of the transfer window (through necessity) without having a pre-season or any matches. At that level it makes a massive difference.
Should see a difference next season.

Have they, who?

Chris Morgan was on Comms for a recent game during the losing run and mentioned he had been told or even spoke to players weren't a fan of the more technical based preseason under Selles.

Considering how undercooked we were it's fair to say they had a point.

 

[Torrix1889]

Chris Morgan was on Comms for a recent game during the losing run and mentioned he had been told or even spoke to players weren't a fan of the more technical based preseason under Selles.

Considering how undercooked we were it's fair to say they had a point.

We were definitely undercooked but a "technical" pre-season doesn't account for the complete lack of fitness in the 41 games after Selles departed.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

We were definitely undercooked but a "technical" pre-season doesn't account for the complete lack of fitness in the 41 games after Selles departed.

Considering pre season is THE vital time for building the fitness base it actually does account considering the lack of time during the season to do that.

 

[Torrix1889]

Considering pre season is THE vital time for building the fitness base it actually does account considering the lack of time during the season to do that.

I get that but you can't pin the shit show that was last season completely on a possibility that Selles' pre-season was more technical than high intensity. Yes the players do get a fitness base but you also have a team of fitness coaches that work with the squad throughout the season to address potential problems and put in place programmes to get up to speed, plus there are countless International Breaks, (often leading to a gap in games of 14 days) to put players on an intensive fitness programme.

The coaching staff had plenty of opportunity to address the problem but failed. Too many were only capable of completing 60 minutes which is inexcusable for a professional football team. Blame lies with them.......or the management letting them have a Peroni or two at a weekend thinking it was "team bonding".

 

[Dkc]

The coaching staff had plenty of opportunity to address the problem but failed. Too many were only capable of completing 60 minutes which is inexcusable for a professional football team. Blame lies with them.......or the management letting them have a Peroni or two at a weekend thinking it was "team bonding".

When Wilder replaced Selles we were bottom of the league on zero points. After Wilder took over we gained 60 points and finished mid-table. We'd probably have made the playoffs if we hadn't had such an appalling start.

Racking up 60 points after starting on zero after five games doesn't constitute "failure" to me. Okay we didn't go up to the PL but we comfortably avoided relegation, and of course completed a second double over the pigs and sent them down.

Are you saying that we'd have done better if we'd banned players from drinking alcohol? I haven't seen any evidence that moderate drinking on days off has any effect on performance.

 

[dexter101]

I get that but you can't pin the shit show that was last season completely on a possibility that Selles' pre-season was more technical than high intensity. Yes the players do get a fitness base but you also have a team of fitness coaches that work with the squad throughout the season to address potential problems and put in place programmes to get up to speed, plus there are countless International Breaks, (often leading to a gap in games of 14 days) to put players on an intensive fitness programme.

The coaching staff had plenty of opportunity to address the problem but failed. Too many were only capable of completing 60 minutes which is inexcusable for a professional football team. Blame lies with them.......or the management letting them have a Peroni or two at a weekend thinking it was "team bonding".

I agree with you but I think the general guide is pre-season builds fitness, during the season its all about rehab, prehab and injury prevention.

No excuses for next season...

You could argue that also this is why those signed later in the year, didn't get a chance to build proper fitness and hence why Jairo pretty much maxed out at 60 minutes and never got fitter. I think its pretty likely that next season we will see him signed early, get a good preseason in and we see him playing full 90 minutes with no issues, just a shame thats not for us.

 

[Torrix1889]

When Wilder replaced Selles we were bottom of the league on zero points. After Wilder took over we gained 60 points and finished mid-table. We'd probably have made the playoffs if we hadn't had such an appalling start.

Racking up 60 points after starting on zero after five games doesn't constitute "failure" to me. Okay we didn't go up to the PL but we comfortably avoided relegation, and of course completed a second double over the pigs and sent them down.

Are you saying that we'd have done better if we'd banned players from drinking alcohol? I haven't seen any evidence that moderate drinking on days off has any effect on performance.

Not saying that at all, any reference to Peroni was purely tongue in cheek, however ....what we do know was the fact that we a) lost more games than any other team in the championship last year, (bar the Pigs) and b) lost more points from a winning position than anyone else.

Most of that under Wilders watch. That's not all down to pre-season and 5 games under the inept Selles....

 

[Harry's Game]

Looks like we are taking preparations for the pre season fixtures more seriously this time…

 

[Slim Man]

Sorry to put it this way, but that’s bollocks. If you’re going to be a troll, don’t laugh at your own posts, it’s a sure sign - and if it’s hardly breaking news, why post it again? I think we both know why……

No more time for amateurs, you’re on ignore.

What a whopper. Yeah he didn't play for the rest of the season due to a broken hand

 

[HermitageBlade]

I saw the Arsenal team celebrating the other night at the training ground after city lost and what struck me was the lack of Alcohol. I saw a few different videos and couldn’t spot one bottle of Peroni let alone a player completely stearmaned.

 

[bladesmanluke]

I saw the Arsenal team celebrating the other night at the training ground after city lost and what struck me was the lack of Alcohol. I saw a few different videos and couldn’t spot one bottle of Peroni let alone a player completely stearmaned.

Because they're a bunch of melts

 

[HermitageBlade]

Because they're a bunch of

Because they're a bunch of melts

I wouldn’t mind our players been melts for a few seasons if it meant we could win something. We’ve tried being not melts for a while now.

 

[Shawy24]

When Wilder replaced Selles we were bottom of the league on zero points. After Wilder took over we gained 60 points and finished mid-table. We'd probably have made the playoffs if we hadn't had such an appalling start.

Racking up 60 points after starting on zero after five games doesn't constitute "failure" to me. Okay we didn't go up to the PL but we comfortably avoided relegation, and of course completed a second double over the pigs and sent them down.

Are you saying that we'd have done better if we'd banned players from drinking alcohol? I haven't seen any evidence that moderate drinking on days off has any effect on performance.

Trouble is, with a couple of them and one in particular it is not moderate drinking

 

[Uganda Blade]

Trouble is, with a couple of them and one in particular it is not moderate drinking

Name names!

 

[Dkc]

.what we do know was the fact that we a) lost more games than any other team in the championship last year, (bar the Pigs) and b) lost more points from a winning position than anyone else.

Most of that under Wilders watch. That's not all down to pre-season and 5 games under the inept Selles....

Under Wilder we had 17 losses. Same as Derby who just missed out on the playoffs. And better than most teams in the Championship.

But of course if you have an anti-Wilder agenda why not blame him for all the losses we had under Selles?

 

[Torrix1889]

Under Wilder we had 17 losses. Same as Derby who just missed out on the playoffs. And better than most teams in the Championship.

But of course if you have an anti-Wilder agenda why not blame him for all the losses we had under Selles?

Spin it whatever way you want, fact is if we had held onto the lead we had in a lot of games we were winning we would have been in the play-offs. Lack of fitness contributed of course but so did bizarre starting x11's and baffling substitutions

 

[Dkc]

Spin it whatever way you want, fact is if we had held onto the lead we had in a lot of games we were winning we would have been in the play-offs. Lack of fitness contributed of course but so did bizarre starting x11's and baffling substitutions

Every team would have done a lot better if they'd held on to every lead they had. If anyone's spinning it's you by including the losses under Selles to claim that Wilder had a worse record than he did.

This is a thread about pre-season. Please don't hijack it. There are plenty other threads where you can post your dubious stats.