Wilder - Get Rid Now, or After Last Game

[Aston max]

The Wilder fan boys only want to look to the good run we had November to Xmas what they don't want to consider is the shit show from January, 40 games and a transfer window was more than enough time to get the team playing half decent. We are playing as badly now as we did in the six games where Sellés was in charge.

 

[pedro]

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Watching the utter garbage that we are showing against Derby now sideways back sideways back all the time I really think that Wilder has completely lost the plot

 

[jt64]

Watching the utter garbage that we are showing against Derby now sideways back sideways back all the time I really think that Wilder has completely lost the plot

It's literally been mailed in for weeks. Not even bothering to try to experiment with anything new when there is literally zero downside in doing so

 

[Aston max]

Watching the utter garbage that we are showing against Derby now sideways back sideways back all the time I really think that Wilder has completely lost the plot

I'm to old to probably see another EPL campaign but just want to see the whole thing rebuilt from the academy to the players recruitment. And someone as coach that just instills forward front foot football.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Another excellent campaign considering what he inherited following on from an excellent campaign last season amidst a total off field shit show. Not the legendary stuff of the first spell but top management nonetheless . The Bamford and Jairo signings were the masterstrokes this season. They saved us from certain relegation.

Hopefully we can consolidate next season. It'll be a very difficult achievement imo.

 

[SBSP]

I assume you must be talking about some other side?

Our campaign has been very far from excellent.

 

[nopigfansintown]

I assume you must be talking about some other side?

Our campaign has been very far from excellent.

I agree on the overall campaign hence the words in my last post.

 

[YES Blade]

Another excellent campaign considering what he inherited following on from an excellent campaign last season amidst a total off field shit show. Not the legendary stuff of the first spell but top management nonetheless . The Bamford and Jairo signings were the masterstrokes this season. They saved us from certain relegation.

Hopefully we can consolidate next season. It'll be a very difficult achievement imo.

You’re just trolling now

Even considering the Selles shit show, it’s been average at best

 

[Tom Bott]

Even considering the Selles shit show, it’s been average at best

How many of the 14 or so players signed last summer by 'AI' improved on the squad from last season?

Still Wilders fault even though he wasn't here then.

 

[luffenhamblade]

It's literally been mailed in for weeks. Not even bothering to try to experiment with anything new when there is literally zero downside in doing so

One of the very few points I agree with you on is that we should have been using the last few games to experiment. It’s not as “massive” as you seem to feel but it would have been a sensible approach.

 

[nopigfansintown]

How many of the 14 or so players signed last summer by 'AI' improved on the squad from last season?

Still Wilders fault even though he wasn't here then.

Everything is his fault.

 

[SBSP]

Everything is his fault.

When one man orchestrates things so he is the decision maker at every turn, who else is to blame?

 

[nopigfansintown]

When one man orchestrates things so he is the decision maker at every turn, who else is to blame?

That's not been the case.

 

[Nick Jansky]

When one man orchestrates things so he is the decision maker at every turn, who else is to blame?

The blame lies, in equal measure, with COH, Wilder, Hoyland and Bord. It has been a combination of all of it.

COH: Hiring Selles; listening to Bord.
Wilder; Shitting the bed twice last season; tactical incompetence this season.
Bord: Doesn’t need spelling out.
Hoyland: Doesn’t need spelling out.

 

[Aston max]

 

[Silent Blade]

Watching the utter garbage that we are showing against Derby now sideways back sideways back all the time I really think that Wilder has completely lost the plot

Lost the plot for today's match?

 

[AdamSufc1997]

We need to actually start signing wingers with pace and have anew look about us but I just can’t see wilder doing that . If he gets rid of a load of dross fantastic. It’s who he replaces them with

 

[United Aren't Back.]

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[YES Blade]

How many of the 14 or so players signed last summer by 'AI' improved on the squad from last season?

Still Wilders fault even though he wasn't here then.

I’m not saying the summer signings were good enough, we all know it was a shit window. What about January? Wilder didn’t exactly improve the situation in that window either.

Regardless of the poor windows, just look at the squads of the teams we were competing against, do you think Hull’s squad is far superior than ours? What about Wrexham? Windass seems to be one of their best players ffs, that says it all to me!

We still had a decent starting eleven that should’ve been able to compete against the teams in and just outside the playoffs.

 

[Flakey]

Sorry, but I go back to the great Arsenal, Liverpool and yes even the Great Leeds United teams back in the 60s and 70s.
The one thing they had in common was their defences were rock solid.
Arsenal as an example had more 0 0 scores than almost everyone else put together. I concede that a win in those days was only 2 points it's and not 3, so a draw would keep you in mid table.
Yes it was boring, but as the teams started to gel, there came a lot of 1 0s which still boring to watch got them to the top of the then 1st division. Later after all the boredom, things did improve, and they became great teams lasting many years
Wilder has put together a really crap defence.
Start at the back and build the team from there, CW is only interested in full backs who score, strangly enough, stopping the opposition from scoring is as good as scoring at the other end.
If he is serious about putting together a team good enough for the prem, then this is not an option.

 

[metalblade]

Could have been 2 or 3 down in 15 mins the defence is terrible. Smodzic ran the midfield, but we slowly got into the game. Second half was fairly even until Derby gave us the equaliser, they then fell to pieces like we have seen United do many times this season and were chasing the game. I'm not sure that it was our good play that changed the game. The son-in-law looks way off the pace Peck was much better when further forward with Jairo and Rothwell on the pitch. 1st on the to do list is to get 2 CB's a Morgan type and a Jags type.

 

[Shawy24]

Could have been 2 or 3 down in 15 mins the defence is terrible. Smodzic ran the midfield, but we slowly got into the game. Second half was fairly even until Derby gave us the equaliser, they then fell to pieces like we have seen United do many times this season and were chasing the game. I'm not sure that it was our good play that changed the game. The son-in-law looks way off the pace Peck was much better when further forward with Jairo and Rothwell on the pitch. 1st on the to do list is to get 2 CB's a Morgan type and a Jags type.

Ist on the list is to get rid of Tanganga so we can afford at least one CB

 

[SBSP]

Has he gone yet?

 

[CPB]

Has he gone yet?

He won't be going this summer. I think you need to get to grips with that.

 

[SBSP]

He won't be going this summer. I think you need to get to grips with that.

I’m hoping for spring.

 

[sitwell]

Really hoping some dicks find another hobby during the summer.

 

[SBSP]

Really hoping some dicks find another hobby during the summer.

Probably not.

His cult are pretty tied in for the long haul now.

 

[Kona]

The blame lies, in equal measure, with COH, Wilder, Hoyland and Bord. It has been a combination of all of it.

COH: Hiring Selles; listening to Bord.
Wilder; Shitting the bed twice last season; tactical incompetence this season.
Bord: Doesn’t need spelling out.
Hoyland: Doesn’t need spelling out.

Absolutely right!

This season has been a shambles. The responsibility for it doesn’t just sit with Wilder, but he has played his part in it and that makes me nervous about next season.

Personally, I’d be happy for a change of manager and management team. I know Selles appointment didn’t work but that is because he was the wrong person.

Chris Wilder has been an amazing manager for us over the years but I do have ‘Wilder fatigue’ and I know I’m not the only one.

If Wilder is staying then a real refresh is needed, and not just tweaks. The ability of the fitness team and the recruitment team needs to be addressed, and I would like to see someone come in to freshen up our tactical approach. We are too slow and too predictable in each of these areas.

There’s a good opportunity to rebuild now and have a better playing pattern and structure, as we won’t be trying to shoe horn players into unnatural positions (Hamer and O’Hare, etc.). I’d like to see us have a clear style of play and attack like we did under Wilder V1.

Currently, Wilder is talking a good game about changes but we’ve heard some of this before.

If we’re slow in the transfer market, as we always seem to be, and are signing the same predictable type of player, then in my view it will have been a wasted opportunity.

I’d like Bettis and COH to outline a clear strategy and hold the management team accountable to it. I appreciate COH don’t want to be front and centre but we need to see some forward thinking and leadership, not fluffy, ambiguous statements.

 

[Bladesman]

Surprised Wilder's interview wasn't more like this:

 

[sitwell]

Probably not.

His cult are pretty tied in for the long haul now.

A 'cult' ,'Wilderboys' ,keep em coming you freaks. Because some support the club and the manager of a club who rescued a season.