If Wilder is sacked….

[BiggerBladeThanThou]

Yeh yeh, another Wilder sacking thread

However, not seen one with potential solutions, so this is my opinion for what it’s worth.

I am of the growing opinion that Wilder should be sacked imminently, or, we should be actively talking to managerial candidates now with the view to bringing them in as soon as the season finishes.

This begs the question…who?

I’m of the opinion we should aim high but aim European. This smacks of Jokanovic thinking but I want a Northern European manager - because I think - and it might be a stereotype - they are less emotional than their southern European counterparts and offer something more structured and strategic. That’s just my take.

I’d like to put forward:

KJETIL KNUTSEN (Norwegian)

He’s manager of Norwegian side Bodo Glimt - I know, that’s probably a major step higher than Champ football as they’re in the champs league and for their size, do pretty well in it. But that is all down to him.

He’s never managed outside of Norway so I think this restricts any of the so called top 6 clubs in the major leagues tapping him up so I’d definitely say he’s a mid-lower Prem / top-end Champ manager.

However, why would he come here? Fuck knows. He’s doing fine where he is and he’s in the champs league. But, if I were our owners I’d be preparing a major offer, more than we’ve ever done on a manager before and breaking our ceiling to get him in. Sell him a project with the aim of being an established mid table premier league club in 5years (where’ve we heard that before?). He could see us as a stepping stone - if successful - to a much bigger club.

I’m writing this and thinking I sound a little bit delusional so no doubt you are too as the reader. It’s only one example of the type of manager I think we need, I’m sure there are others, but I really like the guy and his style of play and would deffo suit us as a club and fan base but with the added bonus of him actually knowing about how football tactics work.

Shoot me down.

 

[Bladesman]

Knutty suggestion.

 

[DeanLearner'sCat]

PorkTalk-levels of delusional, this. If that's the kind of thread we're having, I'm saying Klopp.

 

[Brian Deane]

Yeh yeh, another Wilder sacking thread

However, not seen one with potential solutions, so this is my opinion for what it’s worth.

I am of the growing opinion that Wilder should be sacked imminently, or, we should be actively talking to managerial candidates now with the view to bringing them in as soon as the season finishes.

This begs the question…who?

I’m of the opinion we should aim high but aim European. This smacks of Jokanovic thinking but I want a Northern European manager - because I think - and it might be a stereotype - they are less emotional than their southern European counterparts and offer something more structured and strategic. That’s just my take.

I’d like to put forward:

KJETIL KNUTSEN (Norwegian)

He’s manager of Norwegian side Bodo Glimt - I know, that’s probably a major step higher than Champ football as they’re in the champs league and for their size, do pretty well in it. But that is all down to him.

He’s never managed outside of Norway so I think this restricts any of the so called top 6 clubs in the major leagues tapping him up so I’d definitely say he’s a mid-lower Prem / top-end Champ manager.

However, why would he come here? Fuck knows. He’s doing fine where he is and he’s in the champs league. But, if I were our owners I’d be preparing a major offer, more than we’ve ever done on a manager before and breaking our ceiling to get him in. Sell him a project with the aim of being an established mid table premier league club in 5years (where’ve we heard that before?). He could see us as a stepping stone - if successful - to a much bigger club.

I’m writing this and thinking I sound a little bit delusional so no doubt you are too as the reader. It’s only one example of the type of manager I think we need, I’m sure there are others, but I really like the guy and his style of play and would deffo suit us as a club and fan base but with the added bonus of him actually knowing about how football tactics work.

Shoot me down.

Hello Kevin, Book sales not going too well ?

 

[Danetheblade]

Yeh yeh, another Wilder sacking thread

However, not seen one with potential solutions, so this is my opinion for what it’s worth.

I am of the growing opinion that Wilder should be sacked imminently, or, we should be actively talking to managerial candidates now with the view to bringing them in as soon as the season finishes.

This begs the question…who?

I’m of the opinion we should aim high but aim European. This smacks of Jokanovic thinking but I want a Northern European manager - because I think - and it might be a stereotype - they are less emotional than their southern European counterparts and offer something more structured and strategic. That’s just my take.

I’d like to put forward:

KJETIL KNUTSEN (Norwegian)

He’s manager of Norwegian side Bodo Glimt - I know, that’s probably a major step higher than Champ football as they’re in the champs league and for their size, do pretty well in it. But that is all down to him.

He’s never managed outside of Norway so I think this restricts any of the so called top 6 clubs in the major leagues tapping him up so I’d definitely say he’s a mid-lower Prem / top-end Champ manager.

However, why would he come here? Fuck knows. He’s doing fine where he is and he’s in the champs league. But, if I were our owners I’d be preparing a major offer, more than we’ve ever done on a manager before and breaking our ceiling to get him in. Sell him a project with the aim of being an established mid table premier league club in 5years (where’ve we heard that before?). He could see us as a stepping stone - if successful - to a much bigger club.

I’m writing this and thinking I sound a little bit delusional so no doubt you are too as the reader. It’s only one example of the type of manager I think we need, I’m sure there are others, but I really like the guy and his style of play and would deffo suit us as a club and fan base but with the added bonus of him actually knowing about how football tactics work.

Shoot me down.

Absolutely no idea. Dyche maybe? Though he’s just a similar manager (that’s open to data analysis and an actual scouting network)

Though I’d settle for a manager that highlights the squads strengths and weaknesses during an interviewing process. An actual interview process wouldn’t be a bad thing either.

 

[calcalcal]

I would say give wilder pre season and 15 games. I do think hes got some things wrong but we're almost safe so minimum objective almost done. And the owners badly screwed up.

But if that fails we do need a LONG TERM appointment. Im far too clueless to know who though

 

[LBA_Blade]

PorkTalk-levels of delusional, this. If that's the kind of thread we're having, I'm saying Klopp.

We probably be able to afford the home bargains Klopp in Ralph Hasenhüttl,

 

[54yrblade]

Blessin at St Pauli

Dominico Tedesco in Turkey. Former Schalke boss

Challinor at Stockport

There are options not with a Sheffield post code

 

[dexter101]

Spending loads of money on a new manager will mean we don't have any money to replace players.

Not sure anyone would be able to get a tune out of the squad once the loans leave, our glorious AI signings return from exile and those out of contract depart.

We have to balance the books as well, the only way we replace Wilder and do that is surely to go with someone from lower leagues on their way up.

No idea who, but without parachute payments, we don't have the comfort blanket of money coming in.

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

The choice for Steve and Helmy is to stick with the plan following the playoff debacle and give Chris what he needs to put a squad together in the summer that will allow us to challenge or bring a new man (or woman) in and ditch Chris promptly to allow the new man (or woman) all summer to put a squad together etc.

Personally, I'm on Team Chris - but if they're giving him the bullet then for Foulkes sake do it quickly to allow the new man (or woman) time.

Our current team are already on the beach and even I, as a home and away supporter, am too and ready for the summer break!

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

Clear the crap out, get the necessary players who can fill those gaps and the others who are currently less effective than they could be will improve.
Wilder can do that.
He's shown he can do it and when he's not had the success we craved, with either Premier league drubbings, or no play-off place this season, there are very good reasons why.
Chuck anyone else into the circumstances he had to manage through and they would struggle too.

 

[Dkc]

We had the same towards the end of last season. Loads of different threads from the vocal minority who are convinced that change will bring success.

A bit pointless really because Wilder isn't going to be sacked this summer. He is under contract next season. He will be in charge of the team in August and barring a disastrous Autumn he'll be here next year too.

Here's a thought. Instead of insisting we should sack our manager every season, how about backing him and the team, singing loud and giving the Blades your full support. Regardless of who the coaching staff are, who's on the bench, who is in the net or playing in midfield. That's called being a 'supporter'.

 

[mattbianco1]

KJETIL KNUTSEN

Bergen Blade - thoughts on the above and where you think he may end up if/when he leaves Bodo/Glimt?

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

We had the same towards the end of last season. Loads of different threads from the minority who are convinced that change will being success.

A bit pointless really because Wilder isn't going to be sacked this summer. He is under contract next season. He will be in charge of the team in August and barring a disastrous Autumn he'll be here next year.

Here's a thought. Instead of insisting we should sack Wilder even though it's not going to happen, how about backing the manager and team, singing loud and giving the Blades your full support - regardless of who' the coaching staff are, who's on the bench, who is in the net or playing in midfield?

Win, lose or draw etc....

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

Probably Dave Challinor

 

[BiggerBladeThanThou]

PorkTalk-levels of delusional, this. If that's the kind of thread we're having, I'm saying Klopp.

I thought that too as I was typing. But the point being, we need to aim high post-Wilder, we need to give someone the keys to the club and build a proper project. I’m unsure where the club thinks it’s going at the moment, there’s a distinct lack of direction.

 

[Digger]

The choice for Steve and Helmy is to stick with the plan following the playoff debacle and give Chris what he needs to put a squad together in the summer that will allow us to challenge or bring a new man (or woman) in and ditch Chris promptly to allow the new man (or woman) all summer to put a squad together etc.

Personally, I'm on Team Chris - but if they're giving him the bullet then for Foulkes sake do it quickly to allow the new man (or woman) time.

Our current team are already on the beach and even I, as a home and away supporter, am too and ready for the summer break!

Have you watched Life of Brian recently?.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

Pointless topic at the moment, he wont be sacked. The club are shit scared of life without him & Wilder has the excuse of 'look what happened last season with me 90+ points' and look what happened in the summer without me.

I think if he doesn't start well next season then the fans will start to turn.

 

[Shawy24]

Trouble is, he’s not going to be sacked. We can’t afford the compo, nor the wages of another manager and his team of hangers on. We cant afford the wages of the players we’ve got and can’t get rid of. Our owners know nothing of football and let go the only bloke who did after the takeover preferring to rely on a charlatan with a Bulgarian crystal ball and a PE teacher. They can’t find investors, being sued in the States and would crap their pants if asked to make any tough decisions at the end of the season.

Thread over. It’s not happening.

Now when Wilder walks in December I expect Warnock will be offering his services on an interim basis as the cheapest option.

Depressing.

 

[bladesmanluke]

Wilder gets another season for me. As frustrated as I am with watching us at the moment, but if not... Michael Skubala

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

Trouble is, he’s not going to be sacked. We can’t afford the compo, nor the wages of another manager and his team of hangers on. We cant afford the wages of the players we’ve got and can’t get rid of. Our owners know nothing of football and let go the only bloke who did after the takeover preferring to rely on a charlatan with a Bulgarian crystal ball and a PE teacher. They can’t find investors, being sued in the States and would crap their pants if asked to make any tough decisions at the end of the season.

Thread over. It’s not happening.

Now when Wilder walks in December I expect Warnock will be offering his services on an interim basis as the cheapest option.

Depressing.

If we had a better ownership, scouting system & background team then Wilder would have been sacked by now or never have needed to return. Last summer was a big rebuild but this summer will be bigger. Wilder is usually better in that environment, that's my own hope that he might re-find his mojo.

The depressing thing yesterday was watching a 3-5-2 10 years on from the overlapping CB's and thinking how far we've dropped off. Our L1 team would beat this lot easily.

 

[The Fox]

Promote from within to ensure some degree of continuity and appoint a DOF would be my preferred route.
It'll not happen

 

[SRBlade]

Unless we decide to run ourselves like a competent modern football club there is no solution. A change of manager would result in another Slav or Selles scenario.

The club need some kind of continuity plan above the manager, so if Wilder does leave we're not totally fucked again.

 

[Matlock Blade]

Michael Brown? He gets the club. Probably likes a few beers and would probably like being called The Gaffer.

 

[Bladesince59]

Give Selles another couple of years

 

[Kenworthy’s Tash]

Lincoln City manager Michael Skabala- done an absolutely brilliant job, romped Div1 against clubs with much higher budgets. Play great attacking football & score lots of goals.

I’m bored stiff watching Wilder’s blades these days.

 

[ckpe147]

As much as i would love Kjetil Knudsen, he wouldn't be effective anywhere else but Bodo Glimt. Everything at that club is geared up for him. The way they play, the scouting. Everything is all on the same path. Its very rare that any club is like that these days.

Can only think Man City as being the other example

 

[Davalon]

We had the same towards the end of last season. Loads of different threads from the vocal minority who are convinced that change will bring success.

A bit pointless really because Wilder isn't going to be sacked this summer. He is under contract next season. He will be in charge of the team in August and barring a disastrous Autumn he'll be here next year too.

Here's a thought. Instead of insisting we should sack our manager every season, how about backing him and the team, singing loud and giving the Blades your full support. Regardless of who the coaching staff are, who's on the bench, who is in the net or playing in midfield. That's called being a 'supporter'.

People can do both.

I was at Bristol yesterday and apart from some boos at half time, the vocal backing was excellent under the circumstances and the majority clapped Wilder and the players at the end.

Didn't stop me hearing quite a few moans about Wilder during the game and downstairs at half time.

The truth is he simply doesn't have the levels of trust and support he once did. That doesn't mean that people don't still sing his name or hope he does well whilst he's here.

 

[The Fox]

As much as i would love Kjetil Knudsen, he wouldn't be effective anywhere else but Bodo Glimt. Everything at that club is geared up for him. The way they play, the scouting. Everything is all on the same path. Its very rare that any club is like that these days.

Can only think Man City as being the other example

Very much agree.

We've tried the total change of direction and it didnt work.

When Hecky came back he was in a good place to know alot of the players which was an advantage.

Its why I'd rather see the coaching staff we have given a chance , although they'll need help if their just to concentrate on 1st team affairs .

We're going to have less money and may need more evolution than revolution.

 

[LBA_Blade]

Promote from within to ensure some degree of continuity and appoint a DOF would be my preferred route.
It'll not happen

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