Wilder post match interview

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

I’m not even sure what point you’re trying to make.

You’re essentially saying that you’re more than fine with lower mid-table mediocrity, or worse, so long as Wilder is at the helm.

Wilder was great 6 years ago- he’s been left behind by how the game’s changed since then.



We are a team that’s spent 3 seasons in the premier league within the past 6 years- it’s ridiculous to suggest that wanting to have a competent coaching set up at the club is remotely like Wednesday levels of massive delusion.

We could lose every game for the rest of the season, stay up by the skin of our teeth (just about), and people like you would still be crowing about what a brilliant job Wilder has done.

Think you're playing the poster there and not the post. His post is absolutely spot on about lack of utilisation of 3 seasons of PL money on the clubs infrastructure so how can we claim to deserve better...

 

[metalblade]

Give him while 12 O'clock to clear his desk.

 

[Snowflake]

I’m not even sure what point you’re trying to make.

You’re essentially saying that you’re more than fine with lower mid-table mediocrity, or worse, so long as Wilder is at the helm.

Wilder was great 6 years ago- he’s been left behind by how the game’s changed since then.



We are a team that’s spent 3 seasons in the premier league within the past 6 years- it’s ridiculous to suggest that wanting to have a competent coaching set up at the club is remotely like Wednesday levels of massive delusion.

We could lose every game for the rest of the season, stay up by the skin of our teeth (just about), and people like you would still be crowing about what a brilliant job Wilder has done.

There’s a big difference between wanting a different set up and deserving one.The former I agree with, but the latter I struggle to grasp.

 

[54yrblade]

We deserve?
You must have a “mate” that supplies deludamol

Our position is a product of the long term (non) investment in the club. The times we have played in the Prem recently, and the money spent, were won on the pitch and a direct result of a small group of people who took a team that struggled for 6 years in the third division and pulled its bootstraps up.

But yes, we deserve better.
Really?
Why?

Because we're from Sheffield and most of us can spot b*llshit and arrogance from 1000 yards, even within our club.

Most of us....

 

[HOT CURRIE 10]

If these performances,excuses,tactics,transfer window loans,purchases,results and the manager was Selles,Slav,Adkins et al,ALL of you would be screaming to get him out,discuss.

 

[Large Mendonca]

Having read through all these threads, I’ve decided that everyone is right !

 

[Blade56]

One big change needed and it’s needed NOW

 

[Torrix1889]

The fact that we have lost over 30, (THIRTY) points from winning positions since Wilder took over speaks volumes. That could be down to the players of course but the players don't make ridiculous line up selections like the starting 11 yesterday and some of the bizarre substitutions we have seen. Not to mention the fitness issues which appear to show that almost every player is blowing out of their arses after 60 minutes.

Yes we had a shocking start to the season under Selles and Wilder has done well to steady the ship and stave of what was a certain relegation fight but the facts above are facts. With 2 exceptions, the 11 who finished the game yesterday were all Wilder signings......

 

[The Fox]

If these performances,excuses,tactics,transfer window loans,purchases,results and the manager was Selles,Slav,Adkins et al,ALL of you would be screaming to get him out,discuss.

I was thinking along similar lines .

Not sure what wilders average match ratings are on here but would probably be not too different from a player we'd be calling to be dropped , loaned out or got rid of.

Whilst we cant just drop the manager for a few games like we can players , some treat our manager as irreplaceable and that cant be right either .

 

[HOT CURRIE 10]

I was thinking along similar lines .

Not sure what wilders average match ratings are on here but would probably be not too different from a player we'd be calling to be dropped , loaned out or got rid of.

Whilst we cant just drop the manager for a few games like we can players , some treat our manager as irreplaceable and that cant be right either .

Correct in what you say,most Wilder supporters cannot see the wood for the trees and hoping for a return to Wilder mark 1,it’s not happening. He was re hired on the concept that we should make the play offs(41 games to play?)with transfer window additions,again a dismal choice of loans and finance.

 

[Stretch]

Nobody would argue that the mental attributes of a team are vitally important. So CW is right to focus on character, professionalism and experience.

But as others have rightly said, he also needs to recognise how physically inferior many of our players are compared to other teams.

Half of the group can't play a full 90 minutes, and other half are too easily bullied by more athletic players.

We also lack pace throughout the squad - something which has been a problem for years really. And how many genuinely creative players do we have? Hamer, Brooks and maybe O'Hare and 2 of those blow hot and cold.

Look at the likes of Cov and Boro this season, and Leeds & Burnley last. They all seem to have multitudes of attacking options, with flare and pace throughout the team, and not always on huge budgets.

I am resigned to losing both Brooks and Hamer in the summer, so lets see who we get as immediate replacements and then who else we get on top of them to make us stronger.

 

[71Blade]

Why would these fit players with brain power and desire rush to join us ?

To become unfit injured players .. still get paid how can flogging what we currently have pre season mean less injuries.. madness

 

[Kenilworth]

I’m not even sure what point you’re trying to make.

You’re essentially saying that you’re more than fine with lower mid-table mediocrity, or worse, so long as Wilder is at the helm.

Wilder was great 6 years ago- he’s been left behind by how the game’s changed since then.



We are a team that’s spent 3 seasons in the premier league within the past 6 years- it’s ridiculous to suggest that wanting to have a competent coaching set up at the club is remotely like Wednesday levels of massive delusion.

We could lose every game for the rest of the season, stay up by the skin of our teeth (just about), and people like you would still be crowing about what a brilliant job Wilder has done.

The point was very transparent. We deserve to be where we are not some elevated, nebulous, Wednesday type entitlement.

I’ve often stated on here that fundamental infrastructure changes need to be made for any sustainable change in status.
Just look at IdLiketoRogerMoore post below this one where he cites Brentford as an example of how a club built their success.

That’s what I’m talking about. Not some puerile view that we deserve better than what we have now.

 

[luffenhamblade]

If these performances,excuses,tactics,transfer window loans,purchases,results and the manager was Selles,Slav,Adkins et al,ALL of you would be screaming to get him out,discuss.

I like full stops. Does that help?

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

Nobody would argue that the mental attributes of a team are vitally important. So CW is right to focus on character, professionalism and experience.

But as others have rightly said, he also needs to recognise how physically inferior many of our players are compared to other teams.

Half of the group can't play a full 90 minutes, and other half are too easily bullied by more athletic players.

We also lack pace throughout the squad - something which has been a problem for years really. And how many genuinely creative players do we have? Hamer, Brooks and maybe O'Hare and 2 of those blow hot and cold.

Look at the likes of Cov and Boro this season, and Leeds & Burnley last. They all seem to have multitudes of attacking options, with flare and pace throughout the team, and not always on huge budgets.

I am resigned to losing both Brooks and Hamer in the summer, so lets see who we get as immediate replacements and then who else we get on top of them to make us stronger.

Post of the day/week/month... You've nailed it.

No pace, no athelticslism, no explosive power - in the squad. Specifically looking at Burrows/COH/Hamer and I'm not sure many other top Championship sides would buy players of that physical profile... Certainly no PL would be interested!

And for all the skills of COH and Brooks - how often do they dribble and beat players? We don't have one player who can consistently run at defenders and cause problems.

The last player we had who had explosive power and could beat a man was Ndiaye. Appreciate players of that calibre don't grow on trees, but we've seen the blueprint, yet seem reluctant to try to replicate....

 

[bakeblade]

The fact that we have lost over 30, (THIRTY) points from winning positions since Wilder took over speaks volumes. That could be down to the players of course but the players don't make ridiculous line up selections like the starting 11 yesterday and some of the bizarre substitutions we have seen. Not to mention the fitness issues which appear to show that almost every player is blowing out of their arses after 60 minutes.

Yes we had a shocking start to the season under Selles and Wilder has done well to steady the ship and stave of what was a certain relegation fight but the facts above are facts. With 2 exceptions, the 11 who finished the game yesterday were all Wilder signings......

The current form table tells a story.
3rd from bottom over last 6 games with 3 points, only 1 more than Wednesday.
This is over a not particularly difficult set of fixtures, utter disgrace from everyone at the club

 

[ATL Recs]

Just heard CW's post match comments. I'm actually really encouraged after listening to it. Big changes needed. Proper United characters needed for next season. I'm more than happy to give him next year to turn this around UTB

Groundhog day ..just wait

 

[BiggerBladeThanThou]

Just heard CW's post match comments. I'm actually really encouraged after listening to it. Big changes needed. Proper United characters needed for next season. I'm more than happy to give him next year to turn this around UTB

“Proper United characters needed”

This is Wilder through and through. He wants lads he can banter with - I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go and sign McBurnie and Egan in the summer

This is our problem. We need to drop this “bladey blade” identity and get players in that can do a job, form a bond and make us an established premier league club. This should be our number 1 priority, we ain’t doing that with Wilder at the helm bringing his honest footballer pals in.

 

[Benitachel]

It is interesting reading all the posts saying we need a new manager but no one is saying who that new manager should be. As I recall the last time we sacked CW the new man did not cut the mustard . Be careful what you wish for. UTB

 

[Kenilworth]

It is interesting reading all the posts saying we need a new manager but no one is saying who that new manager should be. As I recall the last time we sacked CW the new man did not cut the mustard . Be careful what you wish for. UTB

SeLLLLLLLes struggles with salad cream.

 

[ISZA ⚔️]

I recall the last time we sacked CW the new man did not cut the mustard

Good point - let’s keep wilder forever then.

 

[LBA_Blade]

It is interesting reading all the posts saying we need a new manager but no one is saying who that new manager should be. As I recall the last time we sacked CW the new man did not cut the mustard . Be careful what you wish for. UTB

That is the main problem as without investment in infrastructure of the academy/Dore Project and advancements off the field in the medical department or a move to a modern day set-up such as what you see at Brentford/Bournemouth we are stuck without any other options than the set-up we have in place now. For all of Wilder's success he has also brought in a culture which is difficult to get rid of, similarly to how he brought in a formation that was set-up for the academy, U21s and First team all playing the same way then he left, yes it allowed Hecky to step-up but personally I think it was wrong to sack him when the board did. The club needs a culture change or we stick with what we have got

 

[Shadota]

It is interesting reading all the posts saying we need a new manager but no one is saying who that new manager should be. As I recall the last time we sacked CW the new man did not cut the mustard . Be careful what you wish for. UTB

Insane mentality this, and I've seen it from plenty of people.

With the benefit of hindsight, it is incredibly straightforward to say that hiring Selles was a mistake. Nobody is going to argue that point.

However, that does not by default mean, that sacking Wilder was wrong.

 

[Paul Stancliffes Dog]

Proper self preservation interview on Radio Sheffield yesterday. Obviously playing to our more numpty fans who never question CW.

Hate this 'Sheff United' type player he refers to and what was he wittering on about with "can't always be champagne dripping from the ceiling" ?? For the first time he made me feel quite uncomfortable.

 

[HighfieldBlade]

Where everything's done PROPER

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[Blade In Flame]

Crikey. Lucky he didn't say anything about the dirty knife.

 

[Broomhall Blade]

It is interesting reading all the posts saying we need a new manager but no one is saying who that new manager should be. As I recall the last time we sacked CW the new man did not cut the mustard . Be careful what you wish for. UTB

Nope you are right, let's give him a 10 year contract and insist he moulds Sharp to takeover when he finally decides he's had enough.
We can't have outsiders here this is a local club for local people.

 

[Upton_Blade]

We deserve?
You must have a “mate” that supplies deludamol

Our position is a product of the long term (non) investment in the club. The times we have played in the Prem recently, and the money spent, were won on the pitch and a direct result of a small group of people who took a team that struggled for 6 years in the third division and pulled its bootstraps up.

But yes, we deserve better.
Really?
Why?

And right on queue is Wilder's leading cheerleader.

FFS him pulling us out of the doldrums of L1 in his 1st spell was a decade ago. A full decade.

He hasn't has any success with us since that 1st season in the PL which was before Covid. How long ago does that feel right now?

 

[Kenilworth]

And right on queue is Wilder's leading cheerleader.

FFS him pulling us out of the doldrums of L1 in his 1st spell was a decade ago. A full decade.

He hasn't has any success with us since that 1st season in the PL which was before Covid. How long ago does that feel right now?

Obfuscation alert.
The post was about what we deserve.
We don’t “deserve” anything.

All that has been achieved has been earned on the pitch
All those rewards were not as a result of a wealthy benefactor, they were earned by winning matches.

If you erase that period of football from 2016 onwards then we’d still be in L1 and looking forward to hosting the massive on their way down.
Odd thing to laud above all else.

It’s not been great this season. An understatement. That’s got a hell of a lot to do with the decisions made last summer. But sure, ignore that for now. If we’d have carried on with SeLLLLLLes we’d be doing a Leicester. Who’s to say someone else would have been able to arrest the slide?

Let’s see how it pans out shall we?

 

[pedro]

The fact that we have lost over 30, (THIRTY) points from winning positions since Wilder took over speaks volumes. That could be down to the players of course but the players don't make ridiculous line up selections like the starting 11 yesterday and some of the bizarre substitutions we have seen. Not to mention the fitness issues which appear to show that almost every player is blowing out of their arses after 60 minutes.

Yes we had a shocking start to the season under Selles and Wilder has done well to steady the ship and stave of what was a certain relegation fight but the facts above are facts. With 2 exceptions, the 11 who finished the game yesterday were all Wilder signings......

I know they didn't score but the second half was a huge improvement on the first by a country mile!