What is Wrong With Wilder?

[TJ blade]

He's quoted as saying something was missing against Norwich?? Can't put his finger on it??? Could see their goals coming??????? His vast experience can't see what the common denominator is......I'm afraid it's you CW, it's you. He is a club legend but all things must end sometime. Thanks for the great times.....but time is up.
But lucky for you Chris the owners wo t dare sack you....so carry on big guy, ponder those questions each and every post match.

The owners have backed themselves into a corner regarding Wilder, and he knows it, there frightened to death to get rid, and even more so worried they'll bolloxs it up again, what a fckg state we're in!

 

[Alex Cheeseright]

The owners have backed themselves into a corner regarding Wilder, and he knows it, there frightened to death to get rid, and even more so worried they'll bolloxs it up again, what a fckg state we're in!

Yep. Maybe they've been looking for a replacement and getting it right this time!!! I'm sorry, bad attempt at humor

 

[54yrblade]

"I am accountable for that. I asked the team to play in a certain way.” Liam Rosenior last night.

If only our manager could come out with that level of personal responsibility and accountability.

 

[Cheeky Blade]

Wilder has faults as do most managers but I’d reframe the question to ask ‘what is wrong with the club’.

We’ve had a series of poor owners who have taken a piecemeal approach to running the football club, the result of which have left us in the hands of these seemingly clueless Americans.

 

[I should coco]

"I am accountable for that. I asked the team to play in a certain way.” Liam Rosenior last night.

If only our manager could come out with that level of personal responsibility and accountability.

You'd still attack him for picking the 'wrong way' in the first place.

You don't like him, which is fair enough, but don't pretend that just by acting a little differently, you'd suddenly appreciate him.

BTW, I'm still not sure whether you are actually a Blade. Your unremitting negativity does you no favours .

 

[54yrblade]

You'd still attack him for picking the 'wrong way' in the first place.

You don't like him, which is fair enough, but don't pretend that just by acting a little differently, you'd suddenly appreciate him.

BTW, I'm still not sure whether you are actually a Blade. Your unremitting negativity does you no favours .

It doesn't matter what you think about whether I'm a Blade or not. I am but not buying what we're being sold and so many are buying.

I don't believe he can change it up and think were setting ourselves up to tread water again next season.

It's a forum and about opinions. We're a shell of what we could be. Last night proved the weaknesses yet again.

 

[Maidenhead]

You forgot to mention Coventry and Middlesbrough who seem to have conceded on average a goal per game.

That's not an oversight on my behalf, its because you specifically said that Leeds and Burnley "weren't particularly solid at the back" which is a ludicrous statement.

 

[Youngand70]

Again, before the club can genuinely move on from Wilder, or any manager capable of keeping the lights on by himself, there’s a fuck load of football roles that need planning and filling.

Wilder/Hecky have covered for the absence of:

a proper sporting director
a real recruitment department
technical leadership above the coach
long term squad planning
a clear football strategy

You can’t remove the person masking those gaps and replace him with a head coach, then be surprised when it falls apart.

Until those roles exist, the choice is simple. A full club manager or a slow moving car crash

I fear it will be the "slow moving car crash" choice as long as the font of all knowledge Mr Bettis is overseeing the show. Once again in his recent Q&A session he made it clear that the club would not be having a Director of Football. I have no doubt he got a glowing reference from Abdullah but between the two of them their experience of English football is, not in any particular order, Sheffield United, Sheffield United and Sheffield United full stop. We are sadly lacking in any experience of top level football at the club. There is no clear strategy, structure or philosophy throughout the club and I don't see that changing anytime in the future with owners who also have no experience of top level football. COH making a statement that their ambition is to make the club an "established Premiership Club" is all well and good, if you haven't got the right people at the club and basically haven't got a clue how to achieve it. We are big city football club with a small town mentality and have been for years. As it stands the "cosy" little Bettis "clan" will carry on and the club will not change or move forward any time soon. Oh, Mr Bettis just a thought "not all clubs with a DoF/Sporting or Technical Director are successful but all successful clubs have a DoF/Sporting or Technical Director ".

 

[LiamBG]

Tide finally turning on Wider. Performances are absolutely garbage, had great players last season and sneaked so many wins in games much like last night. Imagine how bad we’ll be next season. Players are unfit and he doesn’t have a clue tactically, I would love to see his record against the better teams in the league as I imagine it’s absolutely horrendous. Selles wasn’t the right appointment but sacking Wilder in the summer absolutely was. This knee-jerk reaction to fan pressure in reappointing him will have put us back years.

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

We needed a goal and he was the only striker on the bench?

But took off riedwald, who had scored and brought on Rothwell, who Wilder reckons was good. And took off o hare, who got the assist and brought on goal machine Ings.

No doubt Seriki will be punished with the bench for the next few weeks too.

 

[AWetFlannel]

But took off riedwald, who had scored and brought on Rothwell, who Wilder reckons was good. And took off o hare, who got the assist and brought on goal machine Ings.

No doubt Seriki will be punished with the bench for the next few weeks too.

Riedewald scored, but is absolutely not a creator or scorer of goals generally. No doubt he also came off for fitness issues rather than tactical reasons.

Rothwell is a creative midfielder, but I didn't think he was good and was confused by Wilder's praise (so assume it was done for his psychology rather than the truth).

Ings should be more of a goal threat than O'Hare, but more than anything I think it was to try something a bit different, as we didn't look like scoring or building pressure before the changes.

Not sure about Seriki, but given Hoever came on and was poor again I don't feel strongly either way.

 

[KMC-1889]

Not what he said when he came back. I think he was told in no uncertain terms that he doesn't get final say on things like that any more.

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I can’t find a pull quote but in his last Radio Sheffield interview Bettis categorically ruled out a DOF as not being a ‘good fit for the club’

 

[The Fox]

I can’t find a pull quote but in his last Radio Sheffield interview Bettis categorically ruled out a DOF as not being a ‘good fit for the club’

Its not a good fit for Wilder and Bettis .

In reality both have to be moved on .

 

[KMC-1889]

Its not a good fit for Wilder and Bettis .

In reality both have to be moved on .

Ultimately this is the issue isn’t it. You can just remove wilder and move on, you need to gut the club and rebuild.

Unfortunately I don’t think it’ll happen until it’s forced too, either we get relegated again or wilder decides to retire.

 

[The Fox]

Ultimately this is the issue isn’t it. You can just remove wilder and move on, you need to gut the club and rebuild.

Unfortunately I don’t think it’ll happen until it’s forced too, either we get relegated again or wilder decides to retire.

I agree however at the end of this season wilder has 1 year left on his contract. I'm sure he'll want an extension but I don't see that happening.
Perhaps we're not giving COH enough credit and they already have a plan to move forward .
It'll be an intresting summer.

 

[jt64]

I’ve seen a few comments to the effect that Wilder was the only person who could have possibly turned around the Selles shitshow. A ridiculous notion that bears no scrutiny whatsoever. Last night we were up against a manager who could have done exactly that. Other clubs find them all the time. We could too.

Exactly this. The number of people that try to pose the manager question as Wilder or (specific alternative) is ridiculous. Selles proved not to be right (although as I have said in other threads, I don't think other options would have got more than a couple of points out of a start that currently looks like 2nd, 3rd, 4th and two other top half teams). That does not mean that Wilder is right either, or that Wilder was the only other option to run back to.

 

[Large Mendonca]

24 points lost from winning positions. All under Wilder as we never lead under Selles. Has to be one of the highest in the league.

6 points gained from losing positions is also one of the lowest in the league.

Tells you all you need to know about their mentality. They’re as weak as piss.

 

[Bartleby]

Wilder has faults as do most managers but I’d reframe the question to ask ‘what is wrong with the club’.

We’ve had a series of poor owners who have taken a piecemeal approach to running the football club, the result of which have left us in the hands of these seemingly clueless Americans.

Clueless maybe, but also self aware? Maybe they just looked at what Wrexham have done (also with American owners who probably would also admit they're not experts on the game) and thought hmm maybe best to stick with a manager that has done us OK . Loads on here predicted Parkinson would fail.

 

[jt64]

P.S The first step to winning games is to not lose them so solid at the back is the number one requirement for me.

Weird. I thought it was scoring more than the other team. I stand corrected

 

[Tom Bott]

POOR SIGNINGS

Bamford crap,get rid.

 

[Old Programme seller]

I was all for a new manager at the end of last season but when it worked out that we’d get a new one from Temu then after an expensive payoff and with some very poor signings I was ‘glad’ Wilder returned, now he has to turn this sh1t around with a reduced budget and decent players set to leave. I’m ‘happy ish’ that Wilder is overseeing the changing face of the squad as I don’t believe there’s anyone worth their while out there who could come in with a sell to survive transfer policy as of next season we won’t be top of the exciting places to be.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

The owners have backed themselves into a corner regarding Wilder, and he knows it, there frightened to death to get rid, and even more so worried they'll bolloxs it up again, what a fckg state we're in!

Bang on the button…They made a very costly mistake sacking Wilder when they did. They also compounded that mistake with the inexplicable appointment of Reuben Selles.
They deservedly got their fingers burnt for that, but it may ultimately cloud their decision making when sacking the manager IS the right decision.

 

[UddersBlade]

Clueless maybe, but also self aware? Maybe they just looked at what Wrexham have done (also with American owners who probably would also admit they're not experts on the game) and thought hmm maybe best to stick with a manager that has done us OK . Loads on here predicted Parkinson would fail.

Manager of the season again for me. Yes they have backed him financially but Parkinson has ‘delivered’ every season & has made some very good signings & hardly any ‘duds’.

 

[Tom Bott]

Trouble is alot of our fans would not give anyone who isn't a Blade or doesn't "get the club" time.

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But if we get rid of Wilder and appoint a non bladey Blade............................................................................................................................................................................



Simples.
The Magic Roundabout is a great ride said Zebedee.

 

[Maidenhead]

Weird. I thought it was scoring more than the other team. I stand corrected

Or conceding less.

Much easier to win if you don't concede.

 

[Yoonitedite]

POOR SIGNINGS
January has been another disaster. If we were going to go for it, we should have acted early in the transfer window. Instead, we wasted too much time and ended up bringing in players on high wages who are unfit and rusty. The club also has to take responsibility here. This pattern of late panic activity in the window has to stop. It’s been damaging the club for the last four seasons. We’ve wasted millions on expensive late signings that make little sense, especially when we realistically had no chance of making the playoffs.

POOR FITNESS
Need I say more? We’re being shown up by other teams physically. Players are blowing out of their backsides after 50 minutes, and some look like they’re carrying excess weight. Fitness and conditioning are part of the culture installed by the manager, and right now that culture isn’t good enough for a professional club. You could probably put a points tally on fitness alone in terms of games we’ve let slip.

POOR DECISION MAKING
Whether it’s the starting lineup, substitutions, or the lack of them, the list of “what the hell?” moments is endless.
Fans can often see what’s coming long before anything changes, but the manager seems blind to it. How many points have we lost because changes came too late — or didn’t come at all? Take today as an example. Everyone could see what was happening, yet he took off our best player, made the team weaker, and then we conceded. At times it’s genuinely mind-boggling. There’s no Plan B. Is it a lack of football intelligence? Is he becoming a footballing dinosaur while other managers move forward tactically? Or is it just stubbornness — maybe a bit of both?

WEAK MENTALITY
We look ill-disciplined and mentally fragile. That could partly be confidence, but it still falls on the manager to instil belief and resilience.
How many points have we dropped from winning positions this season? I’d guess 15 or more. Instead of pushing to win games, we often retreat into defending, trying to hold on.This has been happening ever since the first Premier League relegation season. It almost feels like that experience scarred the mentality of the team and the manager, and we haven’t truly recovered. And regardless of what he says publicly, how a manager sets up the team absolutely shapes how they behave on the pitch.


All of these issues have nothing to do with individual player ability. They are structural, cultural, and decision-making problems. I honestly think these factors alone could have cost us up to 20 points since his return. Before we even start talking about rebuilding the squad, these underlying issues have to be addressed. Wilder needs to take a long, honest look at himself, reflect on what’s gone wrong, and start putting things right.

The club probably won’t sack him this summer. They’ve stared into the League One abyss before, and they won’t want to repeat that mistake. He did come in when we were in a massive hole and helped stabilise things, and for that he probably deserves one more season.
But he’ll know that if things don’t improve quickly, that will be it. He needs to completely rethink the approach, shake things up across the club, and maybe bring in a younger, modern coach to work alongside him.

The club also need a plan, because as yet there absolutely no visible signs of a strategy without Wilder…

Address the issues above, rebuild the squad properly, and maybe — just maybe — we’ll have a real chance next season.

"Becoming" a football dinosaur.
Ship's sailed mate

 

[jt64]

Or conceding less.

Much easier to win if you don't concede.

And impossible to win if you don't score

 

[Maidenhead]

And impossible to win if you don't score

But you still get a point and you only have to score once to get three.