Time to look towards 26/27

[coolasanidiot]

You really do lack the intelligence to think beyond previous managers don’t you? Embarrassing.

Errr hang on - Wilder doesn’t have his enforced sabbatical and we are minimum be in the play offs. The bloke has done fantastic you need to be realistic we are SUFC not MUFC.

 

[SwissBlade]

You really do lack the intelligence to think beyond previous managers don’t you? Embarrassing.

No need for that.

But since you started the nonsense, I thought I’d just jump in with some more.

You’re not suggesting anything intelligent and sensible you’re just wanting rid of a decent manager with a good record to bring in an unknown which you’ve not suggested in your op but just to, you know, rebuild yet again when we’ve lost the parachute money and the manager we have has been allowed to start bringing his players in already…

Brilliant.

 

[AWetFlannel]

I’d say an ok job, a 6/10.

He’ll be here next season but I don’t see any improvement coming, especially with a worse squad.

If we finish in this position at the end of the season, I'd agree with a 6/10. Done a decent job, shouldn't be sacked.

 

[JT89]

No need for that.

But since you started the nonsense, I thought I’d just jump in with some more.

You’re not suggesting anything intelligent and sensible you’re just wanting rid of a decent manager with a good record to bring in an unknown which you’ve not suggested in your op but just to, you know, rebuild yet again when we’ve lost the parachute money and the manager we have has been allowed to start bringing his players in already…

Brilliant.

You clearly think anyone who doesn’t think Wilder is the greatest manager ever is talking nonsense. So I’ll just leave you to live in your own little delusional world of mediocrity and not waste my time replying to you anymore.

 

[Harry's Game]

It's time to start preparing for next season. Get rid of Wilder and bring in the next manager asap so they can have a good look at the players we currently have before deciding what they need in the summer.

Getting rid of Wilder is the last thing we need to do.. we need stability the next couple of years as we re-structure without parachute payments.. we would be in danger of relegation next season

 

[Cheeky Blade]

Let us know who you’d get in then let us know who you think our owners would get in.

 

[SwissBlade]

You clearly think anyone who doesn’t think Wilder is the greatest manager ever is talking nonsense. So I’ll just leave you to live in your own little delusional world of mediocrity and not waste my time replying to you anymore.

No.

I’m asking you to suggest some amazing alternative.

Wilder is obviously the benchmark and he’s worked absolute wonders to get something out of this season. I didn’t actually want him back.

But you’ve put it out there that you want the manager sacked. So what’s your plan. What’s your better suggestion. Where do we go from here…

Sorry if that seems like I’m in my deluded little world, but have a crack at making some intelligent suggestion which takes us beyond the medicrity of my world.

Dazzle me…. Let’s see what you’ve got

 

[JT89]

Getting rid of Wilder is the last thing we need to do.. we need stability the next couple of years as we re-structure without parachute payments.. we would be in danger of relegation next season

Let me guess… he drinks in the same pub as you and that’s why you think he’s the greatest manager ever?

 

[Harry's Game]

Let me guess… he drinks in the same pub as you and that’s why you think he’s the greatest manager ever?

Anyone who’s seen anything I’ve ever posted about Wilder knows that’s one of the most ridiculous statements you could make…

 

[JT89]

Anyone who’s seen anything I’ve ever posted about Wilder knows that’s one of the most ridiculous statements you could make…

Fair, can’t say I’ve ever seen your posts before but then I don’t spend much time here

 

[spongebobblade]

Let me guess… he drinks in the same pub as you and that’s why you think he’s the greatest manager ever?

It’s got nothing to do with the fact he’s a blade or laughably drinks in the same pub as some. Not one forum member has said he’s the greatest manager ever either. Keep throwing the daft reasons in why we shouldn’t keep him then realise with no parachute payments next year and the club in need of stability he’s the best man for the job going into next season

 

[georgebernardshaw]

You really do lack the intelligence to think beyond previous managers don’t you? Embarrassing.

Can’t recall you suggesting a suitable manager on this post - with all your obvious experience in managers, could you put 2/3 names on the table?

…..or are you just a gormless troll?

 

[jt64]

It's time to start preparing for next season. Get rid of Wilder and bring in the next manager asap so they can have a good look at the players we currently have before deciding what they need in the summer.

It was time to start preparing for next season when we brought Wilder in

 

[bertieblade]

We had the wrong ex hull manager, should have hired Rosenior when he was available

 

[JT89]

We had the wrong ex hull manager, should have hired Rosenior when he was available

Yeah but he’s never played for us so wouldn’t have been a popular choice apparently.

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

I’d say an ok job, a 6/10.

He’ll be here next season but I don’t see any improvement coming, especially with a worse squad.

7.5/10 for me

Came in early enough to get us in the play offs but early results were disappointing

Been good since November though and the regular 3 goal hauls are quite a departure from what we've been used to. I said when he came in that making us better to watch would play a big role in determining fan approval and I feel we have very little ground for complaint on that front

We might not necessarily have a worse squad next season. We can also hit the ground running and be without the handicap. I'm confident we'll be competitive in the 5th-10th range, whether we're capable of more will depend on the strength of the relegateds

 

[JT89]

Can’t recall you suggesting a suitable manager on this post - with all your obvious experience in managers, could you put 2/3 names on the table?

I don’t work in football recruitment so i sadly don’t have the time to throughly research other managers. But I have seen enough of our games and post match interviews this season to know Wilder isn’t the future.

Wasn’t aware I wasn’t allowed an opinion on Wilder unless I had a full list of prospective replacements prepared, my bad.

 

[Nick Jansky]

Oh. Who you suggesting then. Thought that’s what you were after.

Shall we get a young Spanish manager in that plays a different way with little to no experience of championship football?

Go on, who’s the mouth watering new manager to change things up

We would certainly have been able to attract Kim Hellberg in the summer. And there are plenty of others like him. After Hecky I’m pretty sure we could have got Rob Edwards, who is doing a remarkable job at Wolves. Andoni Iraola was fairly unknown before he arrived at Bournemouth.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

I don’t work in football recruitment so i sadly don’t have the time to throughly research other managers. But I have seen enough of our games and post match interviews this season to know Wilder isn’t the future.

Wasn’t aware I wasn’t allowed an opinion on Wilder unless I had a full list of prospective replacements prepared, my bad.

Thought so, you really haven’t got a clue, have you? Does JT stand for just trolling?

 

[coolasanidiot]

I don’t work in football recruitment so i sadly don’t have the time to throughly research other managers. But I have seen enough of our games and post match interviews this season to know Wilder isn’t the future.

Wasn’t aware I wasn’t allowed an opinion on Wilder unless I had a full list of prospective replacements prepared, my bad.

Serious question- how old are you?

 

[SwissBlade]

We would certainly have been able to attract Kim Hellberg in the summer. And there are plenty of others like him. After Hecky I’m pretty sure we could have got Rob Edwards, who is doing a remarkable job at Wolves. Andoni Iraola was fairly unknown before he arrived at Bournemouth.

I can’t argue with any of that in terms of what we could’ve attracted. It’s worth keeping in mind though, post Hecky, that I don’t think the Prince really wanted to sack Hecky, but felt he had to change things because of how badly we were doing. Again, at the time I don’t think there was too much objection to that.

Wilder coming back in post Hecky, with a full rebuild in that summer was probably right. Wilder had the experience of the club to do that and I think it proved right given how well we did… but for an exceptional season for Leeds and Burnley we’d have got autos. So I think it was justified in what he did.

The thing which the OP is suggesting now, again after Wilder turning things around and stabilising again, is to replace him. Ok.

It doesn’t need a degree in recruitment and a masters in manager options out there, but it would be good to know what direction he’s suggesting we go in. We tried different directions - Slav and Selles and we either didn’t back them or backed them blindly with Bord’s data experiment.

So, anyone can wildly suggest to bin off the current manager, but where do they want us to go…. Because it’s easy to fire but takes more joined up thinking to suggest the next man and the OP isn’t able or willing to do that.

 

[Sportbilly /Detroit Blade]

Ruben Selles is available.

I'd prefer Peter Sellers.

 

[BiggerBladeThanThou]

Are we really pretending Wilder hasn't done a good job this season?

No one is. We’re saying Wilder isn’t the man to take us forward.

 

[coolasanidiot]

No one is. We’re saying Wilder isn’t the man to take us forward.

With this squad and depleted finances next season, you have to be realistic, Wilder is for certain best man, take us forward no, stabilise us for a period yes.

Take us forward is going to need a huge injection of cash - isn’t happening.

Selles was no great shakes but he was hung out to dry. The infrastructure at United is tinpot, it needs a Wilder to hold it altogether with sticky tape and blue tack.

The job he is doing/ done is off the scale- realise what you support.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

I'd prefer Peter Sellers.

I’d prefer newspaper sellers…

 

[FriethBlade]

Ok back to the OP, time to prepare for
next season. Firstly let's stop the shit on Wilder as whatever your view hes going nowhere.

Re the team, now is the time to play our players and decide who we r keeping and getting rid of and get the ones we are keeping embedded into our way of playing.

That means Rothwell needs regular games so he can hit the ground running next season. Drop Bindon ( unless we r sure we r signing him in the summer) and bring McGuiness in to see whether he can cut it at this level or if he's going to be one of the casualties. Give Faxon some game time to see if hes good enough to back up Cooper or whether we need to move him on. Give Chong an extended run to see if hes good enough and decide which of Cannom or Campbell we r keeping and getting them more minutes as we cant carry both of them next season.

Three or four good additions and a proper pre season and w will be able to challenge for top 5 next season. If we arent doing by Xmas that's tje time to have the Wilder debate

 

[metalblade]

Today was a set of players who have given up on the play off's and are looking forwards to being on the beach in the summer, weak mentality, no leaders on the pitch.

 

[coolasanidiot]

Today was a set of players who have given up on the play off's and are looking forwards to being on the beach in the summer, weak mentality, no leaders on the pitch.

Jairo looked a leader to me.

 

[Blade56]

Bottom line is under the current structure / management we should expect to be a regular mid to play-off club in the championship with the occasional cyclic foray with auto / play off seasons. In our current guise we are not a viable PL club. Nowt wrong with being what we are rather than a club out of its depth in the PL.

We had our chances but the past few times we were promoted we needed a much more capable management and boardroom set up and owners with much deeper pockets. We did / had neither so we are where we are.

Football has changed dramatically the past few decades and continues to accelerate the change and debts accrued to achieve that change. A day of reckoning for the current unsustainable trajectory is not far away imo and with clubs now racking debts into billions the fall out will be huge.

Our delusional neighbours after a couple of half decent seasons (a quarter of a century ago) have tried to rise above their station (L1-Championship yo-yo club) and thrown that much good money after bad they are the beggars and embarrassment club of the EFL family.

 

[ancientblade]

It's time to start preparing for next season. Get rid of Wilder and bring in the next manager asap so they can have a good look at the players we currently have before deciding what they need in the summer.

have to agree were going nowhere with wilder and knill in charge and as a massive chris wilder fan and somebody who advocated on this site 10 years ago for him to be appointed it pains me to post this on here i think the board were right to go for a younger manager but not in their choice selles had zero credentials that performance and tactics or lack of tactics was abysmal