CONFIRMED Ki-Jana Hoever - Joins on loan until the end of the season

[Stretch]

I think Wilder just likes big hair. Hamza, Chong, now Hoever. Perhaps a secret fetish.

"Chris Wilder is speaking to the press ahead of Sunday's fixture........."

 

[ISZA ⚔️]

"Chris Wilder is speaking to the press ahead of Sunday's fixture........."


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Adidas is back. New Premier League logo is inspired by the teletext holidays logo. And people hate AI?!?!

 

[CaptainMorgans]

I hope no one takes offence at this and to be really clear I am not saying this is what is happening but I wonder if Wilder finds it frustrating managing people with strong religious feelings?

I find it interesting when we win and the social media posts or interviews are comments like "All Glory to God" or "Thank you God". I have no problem with religion or peoples beliefs but at face value I always think its taking away from the players and teams own hard work and success.

I am not saying it should stop, I just wonder what its like managing people like that.

I think you're onto something, but I don't want to go down a rabbit hole of religion / race.

I think Wilder has a very set view on what a good dressing feels like, that is one that's full of characters not too dissimilar to himself.
Old school British lad culture.
The HR lingo for what Wilder probably has is "unconscious bias."

We've heard him banging on about "culture carriers" and at times that has blinded him to what's happening on the pitch (see Jack Robinson Vs Rob Holding for example).

Wilder likely has no idea how to talk / connect with reserved shy types like Seriki and Brooks and has them down as "sulky." He couldn't get much of a tune out of a very talented JRS either and I'm sure if I racked my brains I'd be able to find other examples.

Elite managers have a lot of emotional intelligence and are able to connect to a variety of individuals from different backgrounds.
It separates them from the EFL types.

 

[Torrix1889]

Not sure you could call ‘having to take Burrows out of the team because he’s shite’ the same as ‘successful rotation of players’.

Worth noting that Brooks and Seriki only came into the team when Wilder had no other option when Ogbene, Chong & Mee picked up injuries causing him to move Tanganga back to the middle and change his RW.

He’ll drop them both as soon as someone else comes in cause they aren’t ‘one of the ladz’ like Peck & Arblaster.

Well it has been successful because Burrows has been much better since he started rotating them.

 

[Yewsman]

I think Wilder just likes big hair. Hamza, Chong, now Hoever. Perhaps a secret fetish.

Reidewald has a good head of hair as well. Just needs a proper perm

 

[dexter101]

I think you're onto something, but I don't want to go down a rabbit hole of religion / race.

I think Wilder has a very set view on what a good dressing feels like, that is one that's full of characters not too dissimilar to himself.
Old school British lad culture.
The HR lingo for what Wilder probably has is "unconscious bias."

We've heard him banging on about "culture carriers" and at times that has blinded him to what's happening on the pitch (see Jack Robinson Vs Rob Holding for example).

Wilder likely has no idea how to talk / connect with reserved shy types like Seriki and Brooks and has them down as "sulky." He couldn't get much of a tune out of a very talented JRS either and I'm sure if I racked my brains I'd be able to find other examples.

Elite managers have a lot of emotional intelligence and are able to connect to a variety of individuals from different backgrounds.
It separates them from the EFL types.

I think you have put it in a far better way than me and highlighted something I have overlooked which is just their personalities!

I think that also highlights how difficult it can be when changing a manager. Unfortunately in some ways they don't start from a blank canvas and have to inherit what is there and moving from one "culture" to another can be difficult to implement.

 

[Brownieblade]

If Peck is deeply religious and god still wouldn’t help us at Wembley then whets the point

Get him sold and find someone who maybe is satanic

 

[ISZA ⚔️]

I think you're onto something, but I don't want to go down a rabbit hole of religion / race.

I think Wilder has a very set view on what a good dressing feels like, that is one that's full of characters not too dissimilar to himself.
Old school British lad culture.
The HR lingo for what Wilder probably has is "unconscious bias."

We've heard him banging on about "culture carriers" and at times that has blinded him to what's happening on the pitch (see Jack Robinson Vs Rob Holding for example).

Wilder likely has no idea how to talk / connect with reserved shy types like Seriki and Brooks and has them down as "sulky." He couldn't get much of a tune out of a very talented JRS either and I'm sure if I racked my brains I'd be able to find other examples.

Elite managers have a lot of emotional intelligence and are able to connect to a variety of individuals from different backgrounds.
It separates them from the EFL types.

Very good post

 

[acko17]

 

[ben1987]

Surely this is a Godfrey replacement and improvement rather than an immediate replacement for Seriki.

Seriki has been brilliant this season in most games however he’s still had a couple of inconsistent games as he is entitled to being a young lad only just fully breaking into the first team. He’s one injury away from a gaping hole left in the squad. It’s a position we’ve needed depth in since GB2 left.

If Seriki and this lad and compete and push eachother for minutes on the pitch and rotate I can only see that as a positive. We don’t need to knacker Seriki and risk injury and hopefully the competition can push him to be even better.

We have two good left backs and only one good right back as it stands. Wilder always like to have two for each position. If we are bringing in cover then it needs to be as high quality as we can manage. Imagine if we brought in someone far less able that Seriki hoping nothing happened to him only for him to get injured in training on Feb the 1st. Everyone would be calling Wilder negligent.

I can’t help but think people are over analysing this way too much. It’s a good player coming in which can surely only be a positive and probably loads cheaper than Godfrey too.

 

[acko17]

Hes a great sweeper.....

 

[Snowflake]

I think you're onto something, but I don't want to go down a rabbit hole of religion / race.

I think Wilder has a very set view on what a good dressing feels like, that is one that's full of characters not too dissimilar to himself.
Old school British lad culture.
The HR lingo for what Wilder probably has is "unconscious bias."

We've heard him banging on about "culture carriers" and at times that has blinded him to what's happening on the pitch (see Jack Robinson Vs Rob Holding for example).

Wilder likely has no idea how to talk / connect with reserved shy types like Seriki and Brooks and has them down as "sulky." He couldn't get much of a tune out of a very talented JRS either and I'm sure if I racked my brains I'd be able to find other examples.

Elite managers have a lot of emotional intelligence and are able to connect to a variety of individuals from different backgrounds.
It separates them from the EFL types.

There are several assumptions in there. It appears that Wilder can communicate with Bamford and previously with McGoldrick.
The examples you give of shy types are possible examples of unconscious bias because they are not white. Is that Wilders unconscious bias or yours ? We all fall into that type of problem frequently in our daily lives.

 

[Frank the tank]

He's made statements about his faith in the past IIRC.

You're getting mixed up with seriki

 

[Yogi]

First question of the unveiling video “do you like snow”

 

[SUFC Guy]

See that he played with Campbell at Stoke for around 18 months. Could be a good signing this one.

Ki-Jana Hoever at right back with Brooks/Seriki in front of him. Some serious skill and pace on that side now.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

There are several assumptions in there. It appears that Wilder can communicate with Bamford and previously with McGoldrick.
The examples you give of shy types are possible examples of unconscious bias because they are not white. Is that Wilders unconscious bias or yours ? We all fall into that type of problem frequently in our daily lives.

I quite explicitly said I wasn't going to go down the race / religion path...

I gave my thoughts and they are littered with my own assumptions based on what I've seen from Wilder over an extended period.

It's fine to disagree.

 

[Frank the tank]

See that he played with Campbell at Stoke for around 18 months. Could be a good signing this one.

Ki-Jana Hoever at right back with Brooks/Seriki in front of him. Some serious skill and pace on that side now.

Seriki is not and never will be a winger
He's a young attacking full back learning his trade

 

[SUFC Guy]

Seriki is not and never will be a winger
He's a young attacking full back learning his trade

Winger in the making

 

[ben1987]

I’m not religious in anyway shape or form so please forgive me if my terminology is incorrect.

I ain’t buying the Wilder not liking Seriki because of his religion in the slightest.

Brewster was a practising Muslim regularly looking to the heavens during games.

Anel was also outspoken about his regions beliefs as a Muslim.

So why would he sign Brewster and have Anel as a near ever present in his teams and dislike Seriki for being Christian. Doesn’t make sense at all. Infact, as a middle aged white British bloke you’d think he’d have far more understanding of Femis beliefs than the other two.

It’s clearly not that

He’s had a pop at both Brooks and Seriki for not working hard enough in training and being inconsistent. We don’t see training but assuming it’s true then it needed to happen to give them their best chance of success. They’re both showing some more consistency now and getting more minutes on the pitch. He’s praised them when they’ve played well and had a pop when he doesn’t think they’ve done enough. Seems as simple as that to me.

 

[ben1987]

Winger in the making

Better as a fullback for me. I think he’s more of a Kyle Walker than an Adama Traore.

His strengths seem to be getting into his stride and powering past people on the overlap.

I’m not convinced his passing and work in really confined spaces is as strong as his other attributes so think he’s a higher ceiling as a right back

 

[Berkshire Blade]

I’m not religious in anyway shape or form so please forgive me if my terminology is incorrect.

I ain’t buying the Wilder not liking Seriki because of his religion in the slightest.

Brewster was a practising Muslim regularly looking to the heavens during games.

Anel was also outspoken about his regions beliefs as a Muslim.

So why would he sign Brewster and have Anel as a near ever present in his teams and dislike Seriki for being Christian. Doesn’t make sense at all. Infact, as a middle aged white British bloke you’d think he’d have far more understanding of Femis beliefs than the other two.

It’s clearly not that

He’s had a pop at both Brooks and Seriki for not welding hard enough in training and being inconsistent. We don’t see training but assuming it’s true then it needed to happen to give them their best chance of success. They’re both showing some more consistency now and getting more minutes on the pitch. He’s praised them when they’ve played well and had a pop when he doesn’t think they’ve done enough. Seems as simple as that to me.

Seeing as others are adding 2+2 and getting 22 Obviously Wilder is a Muslim. It's the only possibility.

 

[Tongeincheek]

He’s praised them when they’ve played well and had a pop when he doesn’t think they’ve done enough. Seems as simple as that to me.

I don't know why, and so I'm not going to say its race religion or whatever, but I agree with the Captain, Wilder seems reticent to praise (or often even to play) Brooks or Seriki unless its absolutely necessary.

It seems absolutely insane to me, as I feel they are amongst our most talented players... in fact I'd even go so far with Seriki as to say that he's the most impressive full-back in the division this season.
Whilst I appreciate that I don't have all the facts, just from an observers perspective it seems weird.

 

[DifferentClass]

First question of the unveiling video “do you like snow”

 

[ben1987]

Seeing as others are adding 2+2 and getting 22 Obviously Wilder is a Muslim. It's the only possibility.

Until he hears about the Peroni

 

[ben1987]

I don't know why, and so I'm not going to say its race religion or whatever, but I agree with the Captain, Wilder seems reticent to praise (or often even to play) Brooks or Seriki unless its absolutely necessary.

It seems absolutely insane to me, as I feel they are amongst our most talented players... in fact I'd even go so far with Seriki as to say that he's the most impressive full-back in the division this season.
Whilst I appreciate that I don't have all the facts, just from an observers perspective it seems weird.

Playing devils advocate but perhaps it’s because he recognises that they’ve both got huge potential and he’s determined to see them realise it?

 

[Bladesman]

 

[ml1997]

Very good if it goes through. A decent championship full back who can deputise for Seriki when needed.

 

[Nah den]

Playing devils advocate but perhaps it’s because he recognises that they’ve both got huge potential and he’s determined to see them realise it?

I suspect you're right, with quite a bit of 'you've not made it yet' thrown into the mix to keep them grounded and working hard. Not saying it's the case with these two but there are many examples of young players breaking through and then disappearing, so maybe he's also trying to prevent that.

Also defo a wing back vs winger.

 

[BelgianBlade]

Hamer, Riedewald, Chong (kind of) and now Hoever...

 

[jt64]

Very good if it goes through. A decent championship full back who can deputise for Seriki when needed.

If someone is only a decent championship full back, why are we loaning them in exactly?